Is UFO Secrecy Crumbling?

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Dick Winters said:

or... is it simply possible the moon is just a space rock trapped in earth's gravity? that the Mayans were simply misguided and uninformed in their religious convictions?

I can get on board with some of the questions/theories I've read on this thread... but hollow moons & Mayans quenching blood thirsts of giant fallen angels, this thread has literally gone off the deep end.
The "rang like a bell" misquote is from astronaut Charles Conrad's account of the Apollo 12 mission. This is from NASA's history site:

https://history.nasa.gov/SP-350/ch-12-3.html

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Meantime the experiments we had left on the lunar surface were busy recording and transmitting data. They all worked well, with one exception, and were really producing useful data. One unexpected result came from the seismic experiment recording the impact of Intrepid on the surface after we had jettisoned it. The entire Moon rang like a gong, vibrating and resonating for almost on hour after the impact. The best guess was that the Moon was composed of rubble a lot deeper below its surface than anybody had assumed. The internal structure, being fractured instead of a solid mass, could bounce the seismic energy from piece to piece for quite a while.

The same phenomenon was observed at two ALSEP stations when the Apollo 14 crew jettisoned their lunar module Antares and programmed it to crash between the Apollo 12 and 14 sites.

With every mission after Apollo 12, additional seismic calibrations were obtained by aiming the Saturn S-IVB stage to impact a selected point on the Moon after separation from the spacecraft. The seismic vibrations from these impacts lasted about three hours.
The moon is not "hollow".
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More about Swann's remote viewing of the moon. The case for his honesty and ability is strong.

https://sqpn.com/2020/09/alien-moon-bases-remote-viewing-ingo-swanns-penetration/
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Ah, the mysterious Moon.

Some feel it is a construct and was brought into orbit around our planet. Crazy yes..
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

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Swann was considered to have been inexplicably accurate remote viewer by the CIA and DARPA, but supposedly the government cancelled the program anyway due to its failure to be reliable, specific and timely enough to be actionable. of course, who knows. maybe they didnt. who knows.

CIA ops coined the term '8 martini results' to describe accuracy so spooky and inexplicable it could not be explained and freaked them all out.

he certainly passed numerous tests, including causing controlled temperature changes in a sealed, distant vacuum. altering the performance of a deeply buried, heavily shielded magnetometer could "go" to any spot in the globe and sketch correctly roads and buildings

bending spoons all the time (this is presumably where Matrix got the idea)

anyway, i am not buying 'the moon is hollow' or is a 'sattellite' or whatever, but bottom line there is no doubt that this guy got paid a lot of money by the US government to be a freaking psychic, and his viewings were corroborated quite often.

he remote viewed the super top secret typhoon class sub under construction iirc, in some remote ass base in the USSR that no american had any clue what was going on, and in a place no sub would logically be.


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Swann got to 65% accuracy and passed government tests to that percentage.

He also developed a strong reputation for honesty, including about his limitations.
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Redstone said:

Swann got to 65% accuracy and passed government tests to that percentage.

He also developed a strong reputation for honesty, including about his limitations.


Sounds like Balaam.
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Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.

TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
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Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.

TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
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The Phenomenon I New Official Trailer (2020)-very important documentary to be released soon
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.

TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
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John Podesta??
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Decay said:

John Podesta??
Yes indeed, he has a big time interest in the subject.
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.

TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
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Spyderman said:

Decay said:

John Podesta??
Yes indeed, he has a big time interest in the subject.
We have Podesta's actual emails on the subject. He was interested in Fast Walkers, and never got any good follow up.

The rest of his emails showed him to be a really effed up dude. No thank you.
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sounds like i need to do some research on fast walkers. what's that about?
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Dick Winters said:

sounds like i need to do some research on fast walkers. what's that about?
Eh, basically sounds like another term for UFO that people float out there to make it sound like they know something that the rest of us don't. Something to do with NORAD sightings I think. They're UFOs.
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Decay said:

Spyderman said:

Decay said:

John Podesta??
Yes indeed, he has a big time interest in the subject.
We have Podesta's actual emails on the subject. He was interested in Fast Walkers, and never got any good follow up.

The rest of his emails showed him to be a really effed up dude. No thank you.
I don't think he will play a major role in the documentary.
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.

TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
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The Pentagon Has No Intention of Sharing UFO Information
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.

TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
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Spyderman said:

The Pentagon Has No Intention of Sharing UFO Information


Hate to see it. Stay strong Spydy. You'll live to fight another battle.
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Gov would have to address the cover-up. They have been trying to avoid that for over 70rs now. But, do we need the gov to disclose/confirm the matter? Something may be revealed that could force their hand I suppose. It is disappointing that they have lied to us for so long. Not a good look. There will be other articles no doubt and we will certainly want answers. Lies have a way of compounding themselves. We have already reached a critical mass its only how much they will admit to IMO.

Maybe we will get to see what have been the results of those back-engineering projects that have gone on for years? Some believe that will soon happen. Not talking integrated circuits or fiber optics here..
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.

TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
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nothingburger.........
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Spyderman said:

The Pentagon Has No Intention of Sharing UFO Information


If someone like TRUMP won't "spill the beans" who would? It's either:

1) not true; or

2) something so extreme that Trump and bureaucrats/politicians, people he hasn't gotten along with on pretty much ANYTHING, would agree not to disclose.

Can't see 2.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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Always thought Donna's testimony was interesting.
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.

TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
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"THE PHENOMENON is a Call to Action" A REVIEW
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.

TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
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Looking forward to this.
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Sgt. Clifford Stone made some enlightening remarks at the 2001 Press Club event in DC.

3 months later..
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.

TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
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Yawn. Good night. Call me when if you catch one.
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whatthehey78 said:

Yawn. Good night. Call me when if you catch one.
Evidently several have been. Did you read the NYT article release a couple of months ago?
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.

TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
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spyder... I love how passionate you are about this topic, but man the only credible "physical" evidence we/the public has is the navy videos showing the few UFOs.

Almost all other accounts and stories is strictly hearsay best I can tell.
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Dick Winters said:

spyder... I love how passionate you are about this topic, but man the only credible "physical" evidence we/the public has is the navy videos showing the few UFOs.

Almost all other accounts and stories is strictly hearsay best I can tell.
I just find it hard to believe that with millions of passenger flights around the world, no one has been able to snap a pic or video of tha aliens.
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Again, I don't think man of us comprehend the intensity of maintaining the cover-up. We've all been lied to. Lies beget lies which begets more lying. To what end, I dunno. Thats almost as big a mystery as the reality itself. Our gov clearly has boxed themselves in and are scrambling no doubt how to approach this. Many of the ancient structures, religions, crop circles etc. etc. etc. have got me at better than 99%. Thats about where I stand on Pearl Harbor though...
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.

TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
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Again... hearsay man. Sure the government lies (or at least doesn't convey information to some extent) to the public, but if there was REALLY something groundbreaking like aliens among us/aliens captured/aliens dissected/etc., dude surely someone would come out with physical proof rather than "I saw this" or "I saw that"....

Is there a coverup of something? Sure. But if there have really been 73 years of government funded coverups of aliens, someone is going to be able to slip something past some system or person to expose the truth for what it really is.

I just find it even more impossible to believe that if aliens existed and there is physical evidence of some kind, that the government has been 100% on stopping ALL leaks of physical evidence leaking out to the public.

Are there UFOs? Sure, but doesn't mean its aliens. Just some other Earth-led group that has some technology above and beyond someone else's.
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Dick Winters said:

Again... hearsay man. Sure the government lies (or at least doesn't convey information to some extent) to the public, but if there was REALLY something groundbreaking like aliens among us/aliens captured/aliens dissected/etc., dude surely someone would come out with physical proof rather than "I saw this" or "I saw that"....

Is there a coverup of something? Sure. But if there have really been 73 years of government funded coverups of aliens, someone is going to be able to slip something past some system or person to expose the truth for what it really is.

I just find it even more impossible to believe that if aliens existed and there is physical evidence of some kind, that the government has been 100% on stopping ALL leaks of physical evidence leaking out to the public.

Are there UFOs? Sure, but doesn't mean its aliens. Just some other Earth-led group that has some technology above and beyond someone else's.

Surely if there was really something groundbreaking like an Earth-led group that has some technology above and beyond everyone else's then surely someone would come out with physical proof rather than "I saw this" or "I saw that"

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Bretton Gekko said:

Dick Winters said:

Again... hearsay man. Sure the government lies (or at least doesn't convey information to some extent) to the public, but if there was REALLY something groundbreaking like aliens among us/aliens captured/aliens dissected/etc., dude surely someone would come out with physical proof rather than "I saw this" or "I saw that"....

Is there a coverup of something? Sure. But if there have really been 73 years of government funded coverups of aliens, someone is going to be able to slip something past some system or person to expose the truth for what it really is.

I just find it even more impossible to believe that if aliens existed and there is physical evidence of some kind, that the government has been 100% on stopping ALL leaks of physical evidence leaking out to the public.

Are there UFOs? Sure, but doesn't mean its aliens. Just some other Earth-led group that has some technology above and beyond someone else's.

Surely if there was really something groundbreaking like an Earth-led group that has some technology above and beyond everyone else's then surely someone would come out with physical proof rather than "I saw this" or "I saw that"


I see what you did there, but I think my argument was more broad in the sense of time. All these UFOs... all these aliens... all these decades.

These new UFOs, if controlled by some team on here on Earth, can easily be kept quiet for a short period of time (few years) and for a nice sum of money, if the group was small enough & easy to control.
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does occam's razor not apply to ufos?
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ruddyduck said:

does occam's razor not apply to ufos?
depends on what viewpoint you think offers the simplest answer....

Spyderman: "Duh, UFOs are Aliens man!"

Dick: "No Proof, no aliens, just people."
 
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