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***** Better Call Saul Season 2 *****

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OldArmy71
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10:08p, 4/11/16
The writers must have been reading Texags' discussion on moral complexity before they wrote this episode!

Both Mike and Jimmy are having to deal with the unexpected consequences of their actions.

And I understand that Mike is feeling good, but I still agree that buying a round is out of character.
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10:09p, 4/11/16
The truck driver saw mikes car
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10:10p, 4/11/16
Truck driver only saw a blue junker. Mike drives a maroon POS.
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10:14p, 4/11/16
I thought the same thing about the car initially but realized it was blue and not his when the guy saw it.

And it's maroon? I thought it was black. Maybe I'm wrong.
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The Debt
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In reply to Know Your Enemy • 10:16p, 4/11/16
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Didnt like Mike buying a round for the bar. Seemed too flashy. His character wouldnt be that stupid.
There were maybe 20 people in the bar.
There were more than 20.

Maybe 25? It was a dive bar. Why does it bother you so much?
Maybe because they devoted Mike's entire plotline in the series thusfar to a guy who got in trouble for being too high profile. Hell its central to his Mexican confidante "not drawing attention to himself" or else Tuco and Hector will ice his ass.
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10:16p, 4/11/16
This series may only go three seasons
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In reply to Complete Idiot • 10:18p, 4/11/16
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This series may only go three seasons
Why do you say that?
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Know Your Enemy
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In reply to The Debt • 10:20p, 4/11/16
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Didnt like Mike buying a round for the bar. Seemed too flashy. His character wouldnt be that stupid.
There were maybe 20 people in the bar.
There were more than 20.

Maybe 25? It was a dive bar. Why does it bother you so much?
Maybe because they devoted Mike's entire plotline in the series thusfar to a guy who got in trouble for being too high profile. Hell its central to his Mexican confidante "not drawing attention to himself" or else Tuco and Hector will ice his ass.

But he's buying one round of drinks for a small group of people in a dive bar. Such a stupid thing to get butthurt about.
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10:21p, 4/11/16

I don't see the storylines to sustain the show

Chuck is gone (I assume). Big part of show. Not sure about how long Kim lasts but he loses her at some point. I see more stories about Mike getting in with Gus, losing Kim, and fully becoming Saul. 3, maybe 4 seasons providing post BB season is not in the works
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In reply to PatriotAg02 • 10:22p, 4/11/16
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This series may only go three seasons
Why do you say that?
Three. The atomic number of Lithium is 3

The lyrics of the song Lithium are as follows

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I'm so lonely but that's okay I shaved my head (Mike)
And I'm not sad
And just maybe I'm to blame for all I've heard (Chuck)
But I'm not sure
I'm so excited, I can't wait to meet you there (Kim)
But I don't care
I'm so horny but that's okay (Jimmy)
My will is good
Hey, hey, hey

QED. Three seasons
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10:25p, 4/11/16
"Didnt like" = "butthurt"

Geez, and you think Im reading too much into things.
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10:25p, 4/11/16
I thought the same thing about Mike, but (a) he's lonely, and (2) he survives to BB, so WTF?
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10:26p, 4/11/16
I do agree that buying the round of drinks was out of character for Mike. But you have to keep in mind that he just scored enough money for his DIL and granddaughter to be set for a while.

After his talk with Nacho, he's no doubt gonna keep after Hector. Obviously after seeing the preview.
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10:27p, 4/11/16
You serious?

It can go as long as it wants .... An entire season or two could correspond with BB timeline and show what was going on in sauls wold during that time ... Not to mention an Omaha present day season .
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The Debt
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In reply to PatriotAg02 • 10:33p, 4/11/16
I expect Mike's bullet to paralyze Hector.

As the Salamancas close in on Mike, Gus is introduced and pulls the "dont kill my guy" card he used to save Walter from the crawling twins in BB.
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10:35p, 4/11/16
Going to suck for Jimmy's personal life when he loses his brother and the surveillance tape from the copy place comes out. My guess is the clerk didn't have time to erase the tapes before Chuck arrived, and subsequently paramedics and police.
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In reply to GreasenUSA • 10:36p, 4/11/16
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Going to suck for Jimmy's personal life when he loses his brother and the surveillance tape from the copy place comes out. My guess is the clerk didn't have time to erase the tapes before Chuck arrived.


Great point.
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10:36p, 4/11/16
I thought it was established in BB that Hector had a stroke. A bullet that paralyzes him wouldn't take away his ability to speak, would it?
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10:40p, 4/11/16
Y'all think mike is dumb enough to show up at some cartel bar and buy a round of drinks ? He went to some little hole in the wall, had a drink, and thought "f you hector, I'm going to spend some of your money now on stupid ****".

It's not like hector runs the town and had hundreds of informants.
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10:40p, 4/11/16
Tonight it looked like they showed Hector taking antacid or something else(nitroglycerin?) after he got upset.
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In reply to Know Your Enemy • 10:49p, 4/11/16
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I thought it was established in BB that Hector had a stroke. A bullet that paralyzes him wouldn't take away his ability to speak, would it?

I thought the same, until Nacho talked about cleaning things up, and making them disappear. So maybe the cartel/hector tell people it's a stroke? An attempted assassination of their boss would attract a lot of attention.
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In reply to The D • 10:50p, 4/11/16
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Y'all think mike is dumb enough to show up at some cartel bar and buy a round of drinks ? He went to some little hole in the wall, had a drink, and thought "f you hector, I'm going to spend some of your money now on stupid ****".

It's not like hector runs the town and had hundreds of informants.

And it was probably a couple hundred bucks total. It wasn't like he was throwing $10K around.
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10:52p, 4/11/16
That was my first "oh ****" moment of the season when chuck's head hit the counter.

Thought it was a great episode
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10:53p, 4/11/16
Another example of Mike's half-measures allowing someone innocent to die.
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11:01p, 4/11/16
Best episode of the season for me.
Kim making that perfect speech to shut Chuck down while full well knowing he was right was just awesome. At first you weren't sure if it was just blind faith from her which made it heartbreaking in a way, but then when she punches him and you know she knows, it takes on a whole different context. And all the while while Chuck is excoriating Jimmy all you think about was all the things that he did to Jimmy and what a hypocrite he was, which made Kim's speech that much better. Those are the scenes that make Gilligan creations so great, it took buildup over two seasons to give that scene the emotional resonance and relevance it had. And then how it ended...
And Mike actually flirting with a woman!
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11:03p, 4/11/16
Copy guy: "Did you rob a bank or something"

Jimmy: "Sometimes I go #2 and don't flush..."
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In reply to PatriotAg02 • 11:08p, 4/11/16
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That really bothered Mike when Nacho said the good samaritan was killed.

He's not done with Hector.


Ya don't say? With all we know ofHector in BB, that storyline is set up and completely obvious. It'll be great, but we can all see the resolution there
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11:08p, 4/11/16
nobody else noticed the parallel though.....(edit OA did mention it above)


Mike and Jimmy both did something seemingly controlled just to screw with someone else and somebody innocent got very seriously hurt or killed.

Mike got a good samaritan killed just because he wanted to rip off and mess with Salamanca.
Jimmy got his brother so worked up he went out to a public place where he hurt himself pretty badly I imagine (could be dead or brain damaged or who knows).


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In reply to The Debt • 11:11p, 4/11/16
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"Didnt like" = "butthurt"

Geez, and you think Im reading too much into things.


You are reading too much into it...Mike BCS isn't Mike BB. Just because you know his past in Philly doesn't mean you know that he has fully learned from it yet. He may still have a little public ego, but things like tonight's convo with Nacho and learning about an innocent getting murdered will harden him.

It's basic storytelling when we know the end result of bb, and the bar scene was not out of character at all because you don't know his character right now. He's still evolving from Philly to BB Mike
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In reply to Zombie Jon Snow • 11:14p, 4/11/16
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nobody else noticed the parallel though.....(edit OA did mention it above)


Mike and Jimmy both did something seemingly controlled just to screw with someone else and somebody innocent got very seriously hurt or killed.

Mike got a good samaritan killed just because he wanted to rip off and mess with Salamanca.
Jimmy got his brother so worked up he went out to a public place where he hurt himself pretty badly I imagine (could be dead or brain damaged or who knows).




The parallel is clearly noticed. Both are seeing their world of what they think is vigilante justice having unintended consequences, and both will now react off of it.
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11:27p, 4/11/16
Awesome, awesome episode. Haven't been that entertained by TV since BB was still on.
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11:31p, 4/11/16
I guess Slippin' runs in the family.
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11:35p, 4/11/16
Early on I know, but at this point the episode has a 9.8 on IMDB. Most folks clearly agreed with most of us here.
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In reply to oragator • 11:40p, 4/11/16
Fantastic episode for sure
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11:42p, 4/11/16
I think most people are ecstatic that Chuck finally got served.
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