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***** Better Call Saul Season 2 *****

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Ag_07
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You are still confusing the Devil with the devil's advocate.

I'm not sure you know the meaning of devil's advocate.


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devil's advocate noun

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a person who expresses a contentious opinion in order to provoke debate or test the strength of the opposing arguments[/ol]

Saul Goodman was a partner in crime who facilitated and acted as the brain trust behind a criminal enterprise.
AgsWin2011
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Did anyone else notice the camera angle during the commercial Saul produced? The cameraman was riding down the old people/handicap stair car. I thought that was hilarious.
MosesHallEnforcer
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Absolutely my favorite part of that episode!
JD Shellnut
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Was that a tear? Visine.
scubasteve304
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Did not catch that. That's just brilliant detail after the "dolly cost extra" exchange.
Ag_07
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Does anyone like you?
Cromagnum
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Should be a good episode next week. Saul gets lambasted for his commercial and Nacho wants Mike to kill someone. It's possible that it could be Saul, but since we know neither Mike nor Saul dies prior to BB, it's probably the idiot with the baseball cards.
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The DIL is pretty clearly conning Mike for money. I thought that was obvious. Wasn't he staked outside her house all night just so he would know if anything happened? Then she called him and said someone shot her house? Watch his facial expressions and the way he looks at the "bullet" mark. He clearly doesn't believe her.

And I seem to remember the DIL conning Mike in previous episodes of BCS. Maybe I'm just making that up but I seem to remember something along those lines. Was it in the flashbacks after mikes son died?
aggiesq
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I'm gonna chime in on the discussion about Mike. someone said Mike is now breaking bad but i think he did that long ago. it wasnt when he killed the 2 cops, they deserved it for killing his son. he was bad before that because he was a dirty cop. i dont recall exactly what he admitted to doing as a dirty cop - stealing from drug dealers? taking payoffs from drug dealers to look the other way or eliminate their competition? he even in this show pulled guard duty for a drug dealer; not a street level meth slinger but a white color dumbass stealing pills from his employer. it could be that he's about to "start doing high level work for high level pay" like killing someone for money, but thats only a step down a path he knows well.

dont get me wrong, i love the guy. he's still probably my favorite character from BB. also liked vacuum cleaner repair guy, and having rewatched some BB recently i'm reminded of how much i like the gun dealer that we got a glimpse of for next week's episode.
Brian Earl Spilner
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How on Earth did you catch that?
aggiesq
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Should be a good episode next week. Saul gets lambasted for his commercial and Nacho wants Mike to kill someone. It's possible that it could be Saul, but since we know neither Mike nor Saul dies prior to BB, it's probably the idiot with the baseball cards.
nto saul, but the other dude i see that as a solid possibility, especially since that moron is the type who would cave under police questioning and could easily give up Mike so he'd have a personal interest in doing so.

but i dont think thats it. i'm not sure mike is ready to kill for money yet
Brian Earl Spilner
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So did anyone catch the BB reference with the Alpine Shepherd Boy?

I'm going to have to disagree with those of you that think the DIL is trying to wrangle a new house out of Mike. That didn't even cross my mind.

Curious to see why Jimmy's boss is so upset about the commercial, but I guess we need a rift to take place that leads to his eventual firing/leaving.
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Wasn't he staked outside her house all night just so he would know if anything happened? Then she called him and said someone shot her house? Watch his facial expressions and the way he looks at the "bullet" mark. He clearly doesn't believe her.
He knows that there haven't been any gunshots, but I don't think that necessarily means she is conning him. She might just be paranoid. They gave us a good reason to see why she might have thought there were gunshots. They made the newspapers "sound" like gunshots enough to make him get his gun ready because he thought they may have been gunshots too.

If they wanted to make it clear that she is conning him, they would have had him sit there all night in a silent neighborhood with nothing of note happening, and then her telling him the next day about all the loud gunshots in the area.

She might be conning him. She might be nuts. Hard to tell in part because the actress is terrible. Not that it matters either way. The granddaughter is really just there to need money to give his character a reason to take jobs of increased risk. Once they have established that, I don't really care to see them at all.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Yeah, to say that it's "obvious" is pretty ridiculous.
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The DIL is pretty clearly conning Mike for money. I thought that was obvious. Wasn't he staked outside her house all night just so he would know if anything happened? Then she called him and said someone shot her house? Watch his facial expressions and the way he looks at the "bullet" mark. He clearly doesn't believe her.

And I seem to remember the DIL conning Mike in previous episodes of BCS. Maybe I'm just making that up but I seem to remember something along those lines. Was it in the flashbacks after mikes son died?


Something happened in a previous episode that made me think she was too. So when she first mentioned the gunshots I immediately thought she was conning him. I also thought he went along with it bc he was worried she would find some reason for him not to be able to see his granddaughter if he didn't. Who knows...
Brian Earl Spilner
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From BB season 5
Know Your Enemy
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So did anyone catch the BB reference with the Alpine Shepherd Boy?

That's not a BB reference. It's a reference to BCS season 1.
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And the clip for next week starred Albuquerque's favorite black market arms dealer. Love it.
"This is the west, boss. New Mexico's not a 'retreat' jurisdiction. A man steps to you intent on doing bodily harm, you got every right to plant your feet and shoot to kill. Some call it a moral right and I do include myself within that class." - Lawson
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Ervin Burrell
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Curious to see why Jimmy's boss is so upset about the commercial, but I guess we need a rift to take place that leads to his eventual firing/leaving.


It's not that big a mystery. I'd be pissed too if someone plastered the name of the firm I own all over an advertisement without running it by me first. Now, my anger would probably be tempered when I found out it only ran once and only cost $700 and got us 100+ clients so maybe that's what you're referencing.
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How on Earth did you catch that?



How on earth did anyone not?
Brian Earl Spilner
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I wasn't focused on the camera angle. I apologize.
Brian Earl Spilner
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How great would it be if he takes the squat cobbler video instead of the commercial to the meeting?
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If you think that then you do need to rewatch Breaking Bad. Goodman was a sleaze.


Sleazy and criminal are not always the same thing.


Did we forget he's the one who suggested that Walt send Hank to Belize?

He's charming and funny, but was as criminal as his associates.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Why is this debate still going? Walt was a murdering drug kingpin. Saul was a crooked lawyer. Not in the same ballpark.
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Why is this debate still going? Walt was a murdering drug kingpin. Saul was a crooked lawyer. Not in the same ballpark.


True, lawyers are WAAAAY worse.
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I wasn't focused on the camera angle. I apologize.


No need to apologize but it just seemed really obvious because of the stair rails passing by. I wasn't making fun.
R0GUE
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Also, how cool was this shot?

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aggiesq
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And the music !

When chuck started going off on solicitation I thought for sure he'd bring up the fact that jimmy was doing so in a state where he's not licensed.
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Curious to see why Jimmy's boss is so upset about the commercial, but I guess we need a rift to take place that leads to his eventual firing/leaving.


It's not that big a mystery. I'd be pissed too if someone plastered the name of the firm I own all over an advertisement without running it by me first. Now, my anger would probably be tempered when I found out it only ran once and only cost $700 and got us 100+ clients so maybe that's what you're referencing.
Jimmy even brought it up before hand and Begley blew it off as he walked out the door saying they would talk about it. Same here, I might have blown up initially, but to really look at the payoff in one example, that is brilliant return.

I think it's just another thing that piles up on the bonfire that Saul will finally have to torch.
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He talked about the idea of an ad, but if someone put out a public ad in a large market with my company's name without me seeing it first I would go ballistic too. His entire company could be brought down by something bad in that ad, esoecially since it went to another state with different regulations undoubtedly...and you heard them talk about how they had meetings just for the background swirl, it's obviously something they are particular about.

As part of my job I create and send communications to a large audience and it gets approved by a half dozen people before the public sees it - from legal to communications to senior management etc. Jimmy was way out of line, even watching it made me cringe.
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If you think that then you do need to rewatch Breaking Bad. Goodman was a sleaze.


Sleazy and criminal are not always the same thing.


Did we forget he's the one who suggested that Walt send Hank to Belize?

He's charming and funny, but was as criminal as his associates.


I will say it again. Committing crimes is not the same thing as telling people how to get away with a crime. That is the ethic of a lawyer

Walt and Skyler laundered money through the car wash. Saul told them how it could be done, but what money did Saul launder himself?
 
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