How is it ethical for an attorney to help people launder money and arrange for people to be murdered?
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quote:He was telling Jessie to talk to Walt and get him cooking again because Saul was making great bank.quote:quote:quote:
If you think that then you do need to rewatch Breaking Bad. Goodman was a sleaze.
Sleazy and criminal are not always the same thing.
Did we forget he's the one who suggested that Walt send Hank to Belize?
He's charming and funny, but was as criminal as his associates.
I will say it again. Committing crimes is not the same thing as telling people how to get away with a crime. That is the ethic of a lawyer
Walt and Skyler laundered money through the car wash. Saul told them how it could be done, but what money did Saul launder himself?
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How is it ethical for an attorney to help people launder money and arrange for people to be murdered?
You don't understand how lawyers work, do you?
How do lawyers help people get out of speeding tickets?
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How is it ethical for an attorney to help people launder money and arrange for people to be murdered?
You don't understand how lawyers work, do you?
How do lawyers help people get out of speeding tickets?
You're seriously comparing defending a client against a speeding ticket with helping them launder drug money and arrange murders?!
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How is it ethical for an attorney to help people launder money and arrange for people to be murdered?
You don't understand how lawyers work, do you?
How do lawyers help people get out of speeding tickets?
You're seriously comparing defending a client against a speeding ticket with helping them launder drug money and arrange murders?!
Who did Saul arrange to be murdered?
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How is it ethical for an attorney to help people launder money and arrange for people to be murdered?
You don't understand how lawyers work, do you?
How do lawyers help people get out of speeding tickets?
You're seriously comparing defending a client against a speeding ticket with helping them launder drug money and arrange murders?!
Who did Saul arrange to be murdered?
He conspired with his clients about future specific criminal activity.
Again, who did Saul arrange to be murdered? Which hit man did he set Walt up with?
If I tell you how to hide money, does that make me a money launderer too?
I urge you guys to watch Episode 15 of Season 5 and watch the exchange of Saul and Walt in the basement of the vacuum shop to see the difference between Saul and Walt.
I think him suggesting to Walt that he have Hank killed is damning enough, don't you think?
Right. He suggested that Walt send Hank on a trip to Belize. You know, the same trip Mike went on?
But lawyer just advocating. Right.
Co-conspirator in a criminal enterprise.
But lawyer just advocating. Right.
Co-conspirator in a criminal enterprise.
Btw, I think the DIL is the damsel-in-distress type. She wants to be taken care of and isn't above playing a role to entice Mike (and previously Mike's son) to do it. There are a few varieties like this - there is the textbook type that will be obvious and shameless about it. Then there's the type that will be more subtle and manipulative, but in the end, they still get the same result. I think she's the latter.
quote:True, if I now recall, he didn't want his Son doing what he did.
I'm gonna chime in on the discussion about Mike. someone said Mike is now breaking bad but i think he did that long ago. it wasnt when he killed the 2 cops, they deserved it for killing his son. he was bad before that because he was a dirty cop. i dont recall exactly what he admitted to doing as a dirty cop - stealing from drug dealers? taking payoffs from drug dealers to look the other way or eliminate their competition? he even in this show pulled guard duty for a drug dealer; not a street level meth slinger but a white color dumbass stealing pills from his employer. it could be that he's about to "start doing high level work for high level pay" like killing someone for money, but thats only a step down a path he knows well.
dont get me wrong, i love the guy. he's still probably my favorite character from BB. also liked vacuum cleaner repair guy, and having rewatched some BB recently i'm reminded of how much i like the gun dealer that we got a glimpse of for next week's episode.
I guess Breaking Badder is closer
quote:I just looked it up in the dictionary.quote:quote:quote:quote:quote:
How is it ethical for an attorney to help people launder money and arrange for people to be murdered?
You don't understand how lawyers work, do you?
How do lawyers help people get out of speeding tickets?
You're seriously comparing defending a client against a speeding ticket with helping them launder drug money and arrange murders?!
Who did Saul arrange to be murdered?
He conspired with his clients about future specific criminal activity.
Again, who did Saul arrange to be murdered? Which hit man did he set Walt up with?
If I tell you how to hide money, does that make me a money launderer too?
quote:Do you think he did it for free? I doubt it. He probably took a percentage of the illegally earned funds. And when he hid or disguised the source of those funds from the IRS, he became a money launderer too.
If I tell you how to hide money, does that make me a money launderer too?
Let's keep it going guys, we can get this to 20 pages before the next episode.
quote:Wow. Great catch. Whose front door is that? What's the gist of that episode? Don't remember that scene? I really need to go back and watch BB again obviously.
From BB season 5
quote:This is probably my favorite ongoing thread on all of TexAgs.
Let's keep it going guys, we can get this to 20 pages before the next episode.
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From BB season 5
What is the relevance of this?
Forgive me but I'm sick and on a bunch of drugs right now.
quote:I believe the stuffed animal is the toy Mike was helping his granddaughter with the other night. But Brian found this in a season 5 episode of BB. I was also curious as to the gist of that particular episode.quote:
From BB season 5
What is the relevance of this?
Forgive me but I'm sick and on a bunch of drugs right now.
When Lydia sends someone to kill Mike, I believe he uses the toy to kill the guy. If I recall, he hangs the toy on the door to make the guy peek through the hole, and he shoots him in the head through the door.
quote:Yeah, come to think of it that is pretty obvious, Guess I was distracted.quote:
I wasn't focused on the camera angle. I apologize.
No need to apologize but it just seemed really obvious because of the stair rails passing by. I wasn't making fun.
Thank you
quote:It's hard to beat the BB, LOST, and Star Wars threads on this board. (And by extension, this thread.)quote:This is probably my favorite ongoing thread on all of TexAgs.
Let's keep it going guys, we can get this to 20 pages before the next episode.
Back in the LOST days, we'd get like 10 pages between episodes, most of the time arguing about banal details like who had the compass first.
quote:Ok - Now I can't tell if you guys are trolling or not. We're making a mountain out of molehill here. The 'shots' she heard were the newspaper car backfiring. Loud enough to have Mike chamber his own weapon.
The DIL is pretty clearly conning Mike for money. I thought that was obvious. Wasn't he staked outside her house all night just so he would know if anything happened? Then she called him and said someone shot her house? Watch his facial expressions and the way he looks at the "bullet" mark. He clearly doesn't believe her.
And I seem to remember the DIL conning Mike in previous episodes of BCS. Maybe I'm just making that up but I seem to remember something along those lines. Was it in the flashbacks after mikes son died?
Is she paranoid because her husband was murdered? Absolutely. This woman just wants to feel safe.
Exactly.
There was a shot in the cartel episode of BB where a ton of people were convinced Mike was about to shoot Jesse in the head.
There was a shot in the cartel episode of BB where a ton of people were convinced Mike was about to shoot Jesse in the head.
quote:To this day have never seen an episode of Lost. And have only seen the very first Star Wars, and not until they re-released it in like the late 90's or something. But BB is my all-time favorite TV show, yet I forget some details. It's hell getting old.quote:It's hard to beat the BB, LOST, and Star Wars threads on this board. (And by extension, this thread.)quote:This is probably my favorite ongoing thread on all of TexAgs.
Let's keep it going guys, we can get this to 20 pages before the next episode.
Back in the LOST days, we'd get like 10 pages between episodes, most of the time arguing about banal details like who had the compass first.
quote:I believe she will meet some ugly, unfortunate demise. And I predict it has something to do with Nacho. Maybe Mike initially takes on Nacho's assignment but has second thoughts for some reason. As revenge against Mike for not following through, Nacho either purposely kills DIL or she gets caught in crossfire. This makes Mike break bad with a vengeance.quote:Ok - Now I can't tell if you guys are trolling or not. We're making a mountain out of molehill here. The 'shots' she heard were the newspaper car backfiring. Loud enough to have Mike chamber his own weapon.
The DIL is pretty clearly conning Mike for money. I thought that was obvious. Wasn't he staked outside her house all night just so he would know if anything happened? Then she called him and said someone shot her house? Watch his facial expressions and the way he looks at the "bullet" mark. He clearly doesn't believe her.
And I seem to remember the DIL conning Mike in previous episodes of BCS. Maybe I'm just making that up but I seem to remember something along those lines. Was it in the flashbacks after mikes son died?
Is she paranoid because her husband was murdered? Absolutely. This woman just wants to feel safe.
The Lost thread was my altime favorite, multiple timelines make nitpicking all the more fun.
I see WAY more similarities between WW and Mike than with any other characters. For me it's the motivations behind actions. It's family.
Saul/Jimmy it's more of trying to prove his value. To who though? Himself? Kim? Chuck?
Maybe it's more of the thrill of the con? This is what I'll be excited to explore more.
I see WAY more similarities between WW and Mike than with any other characters. For me it's the motivations behind actions. It's family.
Saul/Jimmy it's more of trying to prove his value. To who though? Himself? Kim? Chuck?
Maybe it's more of the thrill of the con? This is what I'll be excited to explore more.
Oh and I see where people feel the DIL is conning or taking advantage of Mike but I'm in the crowd that thinks she is just scared and paranoid.
Newspapers actually sounded like shots, she is under a tremendous amount of stress just trying to keep up with her daughter and job, obviously has haunting issues with the death of mike son and all.
I don't see any significant evidence to say she intentionally is making it up to try and get a new house or whatever.
Newspapers actually sounded like shots, she is under a tremendous amount of stress just trying to keep up with her daughter and job, obviously has haunting issues with the death of mike son and all.
I don't see any significant evidence to say she intentionally is making it up to try and get a new house or whatever.
Agreed. TBH - her character is merely a point of reference for Mike's development. She's not nearly important enough to keep her around for long. She'll get killed somehow, and Mike will feel ultimately responsible. He won't have anything to lose at that point and get further into cahoots with Jimmy / Gus.
Now - I had forgotten this nugget - but BB S5E2 "Madrigal" is when he uses that pig toy at Chow's house like Shark posted earlier. I also totally forgot he set up that offshore account for his grandaughter in her name!
Now - I had forgotten this nugget - but BB S5E2 "Madrigal" is when he uses that pig toy at Chow's house like Shark posted earlier. I also totally forgot he set up that offshore account for his grandaughter in her name!
Maybe this was discussed earlier in this thread and I missed it, but did Gilligan have BCS in mind during BB's run? Or do you think he had already decided on some sort of pre-quel but didn't settle on Saul as the vehicle until BB neared the end of its run?
If DIL is killed it won't be until after BB.
Man I must have forgotten.....was the DIL not caring for the granddaughter in BB? If not, who was?
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