ordRV80 said:
Please, somebody explain to me how Maryland, with 3 Q4 losses, only THREE Q1 wins and a SOS of 101 can have an RPI of #3????
I really am just trying to understand.
ordRV80 said:
Please, somebody explain to me how Maryland, with 3 Q4 losses, only THREE Q1 wins and a SOS of 101 can have an RPI of #3????
I really am just trying to understand.
RPI is an average. Teams move up in the RPI not only because they increase their RPI, but teams because other teams drop.Quote:
A victory should never result in a drop in RPI.
A&M played a lot of opponents that played Tennessee and some other highly rated teams also.Emilio Fantastico said:
The only thing I can figure is a lot of their opponents played Tennessee and some other highly rated teams.
this reminds me...for a long time this year it looked like neither Ole Miss nor State would make the postseason.Que Te Gusta Mas said:W said:
oh yes, it's a great list of 2-seeds this year:
Arkansas, Vanderbilt, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Florida State, Georgia Tech, UCLA, Arizona, and several Big 12 teams
The 1 seed who gets one of those teams as their 2 seed and Ole Miss as their 3 seed is going to be pleased.
Basketball and Chain said:
Maryland played 26 road games.
Yup. 44 total wins, 19 which are on the road along with only 2 home losses --> Lots of positive multipliers and just a couple negative.TXAggie2011 said:Basketball and Chain said:
Maryland played 26 road games.
Winning 19 of them is what separates them from a lot of others
djktamu said:
They played at Towson, at Delaware, at Campbell. Rutgers plays in the same conference, went 22-9 on the road, yet has a #41 ranking in the RPI. A #3 to #41 ranking is justified when a game and a half separated Maryland and Rutgers in the Big Ten? The RPI makes no sense. The analytics are way outdated, and I hope the committee does not weigh the RPI much into their decision making.
You call it a "multiplier"... Is the home/road adjustment actually multiplied in the formula, so that playing on the road vs. a top team gets a greater adjustment than playing on the road vs. a crap team?RED AG 98 said:Yup. 44 total wins, 19 which are on the road along with only 2 home losses --> Lots of positive multipliers and just a couple negative.TXAggie2011 said:Basketball and Chain said:
Maryland played 26 road games.
Winning 19 of them is what separates them from a lot of others
Problem is, all of those metrics -- Q4, top 50, top 100 -- are based on the flawed RPI metric, so who knows how good they really are?W said:
and on the flipside...TCU is RPI #34 for multiple good reasons.
17 of the Frogs' 35 wins -- almost half -- are against Q4 teams.
TCU is only 8-13 vs. the top 50...and 15-17 vs. the top 100 --- those are not good marks.
the Frogs lost series to Kentucky, Florida State, West Virginia, OU, and t.u.
mid-30's is about right
SchizoAg said:You call it a "multiplier"... Is the home/road adjustment actually multiplied in the formula, so that playing on the road vs. a top team gets a greater adjustment than playing on the road vs. a crap team?RED AG 98 said:Yup. 44 total wins, 19 which are on the road along with only 2 home losses --> Lots of positive multipliers and just a couple negative.TXAggie2011 said:Basketball and Chain said:
Maryland played 26 road games.
Winning 19 of them is what separates them from a lot of others
That's ******ed. Historically, crap teams have tended to travel to good teams, for several reasons. That's a big factor in this statistic. It's not actually twice as hard to win on the road as at home. This is a big problem with the current RPI formula.TXAggie2011 said:
A road win counts as 1.3 wins, a home win counts at 0.7 wins. And vice versa for losses.
It's based on a statistic that something like 2/3rds of college baseball games are historically won by the home team.
bullard21k said:
If they don't tweak RPI this season they why don't we just start changing a bunch of our Tuesday night games to road games? Get the win and the road bump
Heck some of those early season directional schools just play them at their park
Not sure if we change schedules in 1 offseason but if you could do it…don't see why we couldn't tweak things
Back in the day, we would often start our season at UT Pan-Am!!Quote:
I would love to have a California road trip every year to start the season. Play a San Diego team and pepperdine or UCSB.
Meh. I think I've seen a stat that over 60% of conference games are won by homes teams, so 65% probably isn't that far off. But either way, you have to keep in mind that this is only 25% of the RPI. The other 75% accounts for SoS which is why beating a ****ty team on the road still doesn't help you nearly as much as beating a good team on the road. See the posts about Maryland vs Rutgers.SchizoAg said:That's ******ed. Historically, crap teams have tended to travel to good teams, for several reasons. That's a big factor in this statistic. It's not actually twice as hard to win on the road as at home. This is a big problem with the current RPI formula.TXAggie2011 said:
A road win counts as 1.3 wins, a home win counts at 0.7 wins. And vice versa for losses.
It's based on a statistic that something like 2/3rds of college baseball games are historically won by the home team.
I find that hard to believe. Baseball has a lesser homefield advantage than other sports. In MLB home teams win about 54% of the time.TXAggie2011 said:Meh. I think I've seen a stat that over 60% of conference games are won by homes teams, so 65% probably isn't that far off.SchizoAg said:That's ******ed. Historically, crap teams have tended to travel to good teams, for several reasons. That's a big factor in this statistic. It's not actually twice as hard to win on the road as at home. This is a big problem with the current RPI formula.TXAggie2011 said:
A road win counts as 1.3 wins, a home win counts at 0.7 wins. And vice versa for losses.
It's based on a statistic that something like 2/3rds of college baseball games are historically won by the home team.
The error propagates through that 75% to compound the effect. Teams that play a lot of teams that play a lot of road games (i.e. teams in crap conferences) benefit.Quote:
But either way, you have to keep in mind that this is only 25% of the RPI. The other 75% accounts for SoS which is why beating a ****ty team on the road still doesn't help you nearly as much as beating a good team on the road. See the posts about Maryland vs Rutgers.
Keegan99 said:
Getting a neutral site win or two against some fellow Top 20 RPI teams should help move us to the top of the current group we're bunched tightly together with.