Come postseason, Brown and Javier are the aces of your staff based on stuff and track record.
Framber is a volume guy.
Framber is a volume guy.
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When your payroll is $6B it isn't smart to have holes anywhere. If you are proposing we increase our payroll by $100M like the Dodgers so we can extend Framber, sign Burnes and add Santander I'm all for it but doesn't appear Crane is down.tylhair said:
The Dodgers also have spent money on Glasnow and Snell. They won without a former Cy Young winner last year (again with a $400M roster) but they know it isn't smart to build a team without one.
Framber was amazing in the 2022 Postseason, including 2 WS wins and was nails in the clincher. He has some major skins on the wall.
He struggled in 2023 and 2024. Hunter was good against Detroit.
I could get behind a Framber trade, but it would seem strategically inconsistent with the Walker signing. Walker's best season will likely be 2025 as he ages.
He struggled in 2023 and 2024. Hunter was good against Detroit.
I could get behind a Framber trade, but it would seem strategically inconsistent with the Walker signing. Walker's best season will likely be 2025 as he ages.
I know this isn't an option.
I am saying if you aren't going to have an ace or two, you better have all those MVPs in your lineup if you want to win the WS.
I am saying if you aren't going to have an ace or two, you better have all those MVPs in your lineup if you want to win the WS.
I do kinda wonder if they are going to try and address leverage relief.
If we were going all in on 2025 then our strategy is already inconsistent because we traded Tucker. As far as I can tell, we are trying to be competitive in 2025 while making sure our ability to contend for playoff spots goes beyond 2025. The Tucker trade and Walker signings are consistent with that strategy. To me, Framber is too much in the "go for it all this year" bucket and I want more "keep it rolling past 2025". The free agent market for hitters also sucks next year so we won't be able to easily fill that hole 12 months from now (especially without Framber to trade).
Framber was excellent in 2024 after the early Angels game debacle and was hurt in 2023.
He's not getting traded.
He's not getting traded.
The Astros have entirely too much money dedicated to leverage relief as is.
Maybe Dana can find some bargain guys we can turn into studs.
Maybe Dana can find some bargain guys we can turn into studs.
One last note, the Dodgers were second in MLB in runs scored last year and the Rangers were 3rd in 2023. The Dodgers were 13th in ERA last year and the Rangers were 18th in 2023. If you are looking for a formula, it appears to be have a great offense and pitching that is good enough. I feel a lot better about our pitching coaches turning spaghetti into a quality starter than I do our hitting coaching turning Jake or Dubon into even a league average hitter.
tylhair said:
The Astros have entirely too much money dedicated to leverage relief as is.
Maybe Dana can find some bargain guys we can turn into studs.
I'm not counting Presley as leverage anymore. He's the Montero of the present and future
The A's are trying to run up their payroll to not run afoul of the revenue sharing rules. Wonder if we can get them to take Montero's money? He doesn't even have to throw a pitch for them
I think the strategy is to be a playoff team capable of getting hot at the end and win the WS each of the next four seasons.MaxPower said:
If we were going all in on 2025 then our strategy is already inconsistent because we traded Tucker. As far as I can tell, we are trying to be competitive in 2025 while making sure our ability to contend for playoff spots goes beyond 2025. The Tucker trade and Walker signings are consistent with that strategy. To me, Framber is too much in the "go for it all this year" bucket and I want more "keep it rolling past 2025". The free agent market for hitters also sucks next year so we won't be able to easily fill that hole 12 months from now (especially without Framber to trade).
It is my opinion that if you trade Framber you can increase your 2026-2028 chances (provided you bring in a front line starter next offseason), but 2025 is no longer realistic.
I like all the moves, but I think I'd be against a Framber trade.
There's an MLB record $311.305 million in luxury tax penalties this year, more than $100 million more than a year ago, by nine teams that eclipsed the luxury tax.
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) December 20, 2024
Dodgers: $103.016M
Mets: $97.116M
Yankees: $62.512M
Phillies: $14.351M
Atlanta: $14.026M
Rangers:$10.807M
Astros:…
We still stinker and cintron
What would a productive Chazzy Fizz do for this offense? he posted 2.3, 1.3, and 3.6 WAR his first three seasons before the disaster of last year. If he can be close to the average of those first three, around a 2.0 WAR, wow.
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That is my hope. Short of trading for a CF bat, my hope is that Chas can be the everyday CF in the 8/9 spot and return to previous form to lengthen the lineup.
I would love it if we could get Peña into the 9 hole.
I would love it if we could get Peña into the 9 hole.
Of Chaz is in CF, who is our RF?
Man, finally caught up. What a day. Welcome to the tine, Christian.
Good luck Alex.
Oh, and...EAD Jeff
Good luck Alex.
Oh, and...EAD Jeff
Haven't heard anything on Grichuk. Only prediction I have seen is 2 years, $20M. I don't mind 2 years but $10M a year seems high given Kepler got that for only one year. Regardless, would have to trade someone to make that happen and stay under the luxury tax. His batted ball metrics were great this year and played about average RF defense depending on what metric you use. Local guy so seems like he'd be interested.
so we have 3 months to mentally prepare for another 500 at-bats from Jake and 400 at-bats from Dubon in 2025EastCoastAgNc said:
Chandler on 790 says barring any trades working out, no more signings on offense or in the rotation. Any other guys will be super low money or minor league deals with spring training invite to possibly make the big league roster
there is hope that Chas can return to form
W said:so we have 3 months to mentally prepare for another 500 at-bats from Jake and 400 at-bats from Dubon in 2025EastCoastAgNc said:
Chandler on 790 says barring any trades working out, no more signings on offense or in the rotation. Any other guys will be super low money or minor league deals with spring training invite to possibly make the big league roster
there is hope that Chas can return to form
Maybe Espada will follow through on his comments about being too aggressive at the plate- starting with Meyers and Dubon.
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Someone not currently on the roster.
As to the Grichuk reference, he is a lefty destroyer, which could pair well with a Heyward/Gamel.
As to the Grichuk reference, he is a lefty destroyer, which could pair well with a Heyward/Gamel.
We hit lefties well as is.
1B and 3B are locked in.
All we need now is a power-hitting RF with a sweet stroke and a built-in fan base.
All we need now is a power-hitting RF with a sweet stroke and a built-in fan base.
— Dustin DeBerry (@dkdeberry) December 20, 2024
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
ESPN writers have not liked the Astros moves this offseason. I'll choose to take comfort in that...
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
the media loves the mega-contracts
Marvin said:
ESPN writers have not liked the Astros moves this offseason. I'll choose to take comfort in that...
Literally the last thing I give a **** about. Let's roll.
I'm going to miss Breggy, but anyone who pays attention and has watched him run and hit over the last few years can see Father Time is already working on him. He'll be using a Walker in six years at the rate he's going downhill.
2025 lineup
Altuve
Alvarez
Walker
Peredes
Diaz
McCormick
Pena
Doubon/Carantini (depending on who is DH vs LF)
Meyers
1-6 is really strong if McCormick can return to form. I think it's only a very small downgrade from last year's full health roster. McCormick may start in CF while we let rookies battle it out in RF
Altuve
Alvarez
Walker
Peredes
Diaz
McCormick
Pena
Doubon/Carantini (depending on who is DH vs LF)
Meyers
1-6 is really strong if McCormick can return to form. I think it's only a very small downgrade from last year's full health roster. McCormick may start in CF while we let rookies battle it out in RF
I don't follow ESPN baseball media. But if they are as bad as ESPN college football media, this gives me comfort.
AggiEE said:
2025 lineup
Altuve
Alvarez
Walker
Peredes
Diaz
McCormick
Pena
Doubon/Carantini (depending on who is DH vs LF)
Meyers
1-6 is really strong if McCormick can return to form. I think it's only a very small downgrade from last year's full health roster
Yep. Success for that lineup will require Chas and Pena to take a step forward. Also the health of the top 5 will be paramount … zero depth behind them
Figured I'd share my favorite memory of watching Bergman in person:
Game 4 of the 2019 World Series when he hit that grand slam. The air left the stadium and the crowd started leaving. Was truly wonderful to see
Game 4 of the 2019 World Series when he hit that grand slam. The air left the stadium and the crowd started leaving. Was truly wonderful to see
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
All I do is Nguyen said:
Figured I'd share my favorite memory of watching Bergman in person:
Game 4 of the 2019 World Series when he hit that grand slam. The air left the stadium and the crowd started leaving. Was truly wonderful to see
Ahh….2019. Still have nightmares.
Me too but that memory still sticks with me. My dad and I went to the game and he was in the bathroom when Breggy hit the slam and I texted him "KEEP YOUR ASS IN THE BATHROOM"
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
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