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HUEY04
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6:59p, 7/3/26
Also, this is by far the best repository of information I've found, go to the "classroom" section and there is reading for days on anything and everything health, fitness, and self improvement related

https://www.skool.com/jh-iron-forge-brotherhood
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JeremiahJohnson
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8:02p, 7/3/26
Be nice to find a battery powered one. Probably too complicated to carry in a small package.
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In reply to JeremiahJohnson • 8:25p, 7/3/26
JeremiahJohnson said:
Be nice to find a battery powered one. Probably too complicated to carry in a small package.


A bunch on Amazon that can plug into a usb port and run.
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Maximus Johnson
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12:04p, 7/4/26
Have you guys had and issues traveling with your peptides? Plan is to put them in a yeti cup with an ice pack. Just worried about getting asked for a prescription.
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MosesHallEnforcer
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In reply to Maximus Johnson • 1:00p, 7/4/26
No tsa doesn't care, but you should always out them in your checked luggage.
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backintexas2013
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3:00p, 7/4/26
Has anyone traveled overseas with them?
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In reply to backintexas2013 • 8:00p, 7/4/26
I have, usually tucked deep in my checked baggage. Note: I will not ever go to Singapore with unlabelled unprescribed white powders, but will be going to the UK and USA with a few vials from Australia next week.
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8:14a, 7/5/26
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backintexas2013
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In reply to bthotugigem05 • 8:28a, 7/5/26
Agree with Singapore. I am traveling to Japan so I am thinking maybe I will just use it as a cycle off part. May use it to trim down on what I am taking. Did want to keep taking GHK and just got a script for test so wanted to travel with that.
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tam2002
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3:14p, 7/5/26
Has HGH been discussed on this thread or is that a no no? I have a kit and looking at running a low dose beginner protocol and was curious to hear others thoughts and experiences with it
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HUEY04
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In reply to tam2002 • 3:56p, 7/5/26
First, what are your IGF-1 levels at and are you just trying to get it optimized or go above normal ranges?
If IGF-1 is low and just trying to optimize, a growth hormone secretegogue is the better option, something like CJC-1295 (no dac) with Ipamorelin. I am using that due to low IGF-1 levels and trying to recover from a ruptured patella tendon. I have noticed much better deep sleep and faster recovery after PT on this combined with daily KLOW. This method maintains and optimizes your normal production.
If you start using exogenous gh, that will tend to temporarily shut down normal pulsatile gh release so you need enough to hit target levels with basically zero help from your natural production. Many bodybuilders go this route to maximize gh (4-5x opti,al levels) but it can come with some undesirable side effects.
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bthotugigem05
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In reply to backintexas2013 • 4:19p, 7/5/26
Quadruple check what is allowed in Japan. Certain substances just aren't allowed no matter what, even with a scrip. Not sure if test is on that list.
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tam2002
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In reply to HUEY04 • 4:27p, 7/5/26
Levels are a little low but not crazy. I've had the kit so I thought I'd just use it tbh. Start at 1iu a day and at most after awhile go to 2iu eod. Also it's my understanding that when taking exogenous hgh its only blunting the pulses that overlap? Was thinking do it first thing in morning fasted and not before bed to interrupt what would be your normal largest natural pulse. I admit I could be totally wrong on this tho
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bthotugigem05
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4:34p, 7/5/26
Yeah mate, exogenous HGH suppresses your body's natural pulses. You run it because you want to ensure the amount of GH in your system at any given time instead of depending on the pulses (the suppression is a feature, not a bug).

Sounds like you're really wanting a secretagogue-type experience over actual HGH.
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HUEY04
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In reply to tam2002 • 4:40p, 7/5/26
If you do use the exogenous, I've seen some info about eod dosing being more effective at keeping natural production going, I'll have to go dig that up because I don't remember the details, something about the 20-24 hr half life clearing and allowing natural cycle to rebound
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tam2002
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In reply to bthotugigem05 • 4:40p, 7/5/26
Fair enough. I'll order some cjc/ipa. Thanks!
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MosesHallEnforcer
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In reply to bthotugigem05 • 4:49p, 7/5/26
That's not really true, but it's been discussed already in this thread. You can use therapeutic HGH doses 2iu and below and stack with the secretogues for really good results.

HGH is way better than the secretogues and it doesn't completely shut down your pulses at the doses we have discussed. But you can stack both.
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MosesHallEnforcer
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In reply to tam2002 • 4:50p, 7/5/26
You are better off with tesamorelin and hgh.
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MosesHallEnforcer
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5:00p, 7/5/26
I wish we could have a sticky on this thread! lol.

Step 1 blood work
Step 2 Dexa scan
Step 3 testosterone, reta, HGH and/or ipamorelin tesamorelin

If you can afford it:
SS-31 and Motsc to fix and optimize mitochondria
Glow stack for inflammation

Lift heavy **** 3 or 4 times a week, hit your protein and eat like a grown up most days.

Once you get to 13% body fat, you can come back to the thread to discuss minutiae, cycling stuff etc.

Seriously, this is it!
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tam2002
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In reply to MosesHallEnforcer • 5:02p, 7/5/26
How would you run these together if you don't mind me asking?
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backintexas2013
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5:02p, 7/5/26
So many different things out there. I see don't take HGH with Tesa because they cancel each other. I have seen others say take them on separate days. Others say Tesa still works on visceral fat and won't impact the HGH.

It's crazy how much is out there and contradicts each other.
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backintexas2013
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In reply to MosesHallEnforcer • 5:03p, 7/5/26
You are right should be stickied.
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MosesHallEnforcer
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In reply to tam2002 • 5:05p, 7/5/26
Reta 5 days a week, test 3 days a week, and HGH and/or tesa ipa at night. Doses have been discussed a bunch but DM me if you need to.
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MosesHallEnforcer
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In reply to backintexas2013 • 5:09p, 7/5/26
There a bunch of influencers, peptide sellers, ****** doctors etc. that post a bunch of theoretical *****

Plus, ChatGPT or the other AI stuff that pull stuff off of Reddit or other public forums which is the epitome of bad info and anxious people posting nonsense. But nobody will post their blood work or dexa scans so they are just spouting stuff.

Measure your bloods, do a dexa, do proven **** then adjust as needed.
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backintexas2013
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In reply to MosesHallEnforcer • 5:13p, 7/5/26
Agreed. I did another dexa and the Tesa/Reta really impacted visceral fat. Did blood work. Started TRT from Rise.
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HUEY04
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5:26p, 7/5/26
Re: hgh vs secretegogues:
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MosesHallEnforcer
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5:36p, 7/5/26
I'm not trying to gatekeep, I'll watch that video next week when I get a chance.

That guy doesn't look like he's only done cjc and ipa though lol!

That's a trenny if I I've ever seen one. Oh well, I digress.

Most of the biohacking circles I'm in, run low dose HGH year round and cycle in the secretogues, and everyone is measuring everything.
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backintexas2013
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In reply to MosesHallEnforcer • 5:38p, 7/5/26
Low dose 2IUs? I have seen some do 4IUs but that doesn't sound low dose.

Love the term trenny. That's funny
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MosesHallEnforcer
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In reply to backintexas2013 • 5:41p, 7/5/26
Yeah I just made that up lol. This one isn't original though.

Eat Clen, Tren hard, Anavar give up!
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MosesHallEnforcer
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In reply to backintexas2013 • 5:44p, 7/5/26
I've never gone above 2iu. You can run 4iu for a short time though. Just not sustainable
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MosesHallEnforcer
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In reply to HUEY04 • 5:49p, 7/5/26
It's like the liver king, juiced to the ****ing gills, but telling everyone just to eat liver, and smash the like button and subscribe.
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backintexas2013
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In reply to MosesHallEnforcer • 5:51p, 7/5/26
There are so many social media types saying they are natural and just looks like no way they are natural.
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MosesHallEnforcer
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In reply to backintexas2013 • 5:54p, 7/5/26
Or the skinny fat redditors that post theoretical information from their Mom's basement.

It's like post bloodwork, and post dexa or you can't give advice.
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HUEY04
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In reply to MosesHallEnforcer • 5:57p, 7/5/26
Oh, he's far from natural and talks about using anabolics, test, and hgh openly, but he's also very honest about when it is the right move and when cjc/ipa is a better fit and he digs into the why
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MosesHallEnforcer
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In reply to HUEY04 • 6:02p, 7/5/26
Cjc is garbage compared to tesamorelin imho.
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