***TEXANS 2017 OFF SEASON***

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Pahdz
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But what if he won't commit to a long term deal? That would be the most Browns thing ever to deal for him now and then next year chunks the deuce at them.
bilbobag
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You don't think a trade would be contingent on him signing a new deal?
Pahdz
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Possibly, but I just don't see JG doing it.
KatyAg88
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Bob McNair is not very smart for keeping Rick Smith around. RS is costing him millions. He is horribly inexperienced and ignorant in football decision making. Look at what Jerry just did because of his ignorance. Timing is everything. RS and Texans just got schooled and will have to give up more now if they want Romo.
Tom Hagen
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Rick Smith must have pics of McNair with little boys.
Pahdz
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What this tweet I just saw about BO telling people privately he shoulda never left Denver?
bilbobag
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Ha.. it was an awful situation. You just don't know. He put himself on island and what made it worse was a GM pushing him to get PT
CFTXAG10
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Pahdz
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It's like Chris Simms at Texas...or worse
redag06
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Lechler the new QB ?
brotheraggie
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Tom Hagen said:

Rick Smith must have pics of McNair with little boys.
I know thats right!! LOL
MelvinUdall
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Pahdz said:

It's like Chris Simms at Texas...or worse


Biggest difference was that Simms actually won games, other than OU.
CFTXAG10
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brotheraggie
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Maybe the Texans can go to the graveyard and get Kenny Stabler to play QB!!! Rick Smith has to be the dumbest m**********r in the history of the NFL!!!
Kozmozag
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Cleveland continues to Cleveland, osweiler is gone.
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DannyDuberstein
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They've got $107 million in cap space since they rolled $50 million of unused space from 2016 to 2017. The 89% cap floor is going to eventually be an issue for them. Trading and cutting is a way to get picks, burn some cap space they can't spend anyway, and do so in a manner that doesn't lock them into anything beyond 2017 (which again, they can't spend anyway). The guy can't play for dick, so no reason to keep him.
mm98
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Kozmozag said:

Cleveland continues to Cleveland, osweiler is gone.


I thought so at first but after someone explained their cap situation, it's genius by Cleveland.

Mathguy64
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Cleveland has a crapload of picks this year and next. The downside of that is if they really do their job well then in 3-4 years as they mature they will have a crapload of FA and won't have as much cap space to keep them all. If I understand what they are doing it's the basketball cap philosophy being applied to a much larger roster and draft. Will be interesting to see if it works.
aTm2004
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What are the odds Rick Smith picks up Osweiler on the cheap as a backup once he's released?
91AggieLawyer
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Rick Smith has to be the dumbest m**********r in the history of the NFL!!!

Never heard of Matt Millan?
91AggieLawyer
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I only marginally follow this, so would someone explain why you trade for a guy then release him? I'm guessing they got something they really wanted from the Texans. But aren't they on the hook for the guaranteed part of BO's contract?
lunchbox
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91AggieLawyer said:

I only marginally follow this, so would someone explain why you trade for a guy then release him? I'm guessing they got something they really wanted from the Texans. But aren't they on the hook for the guaranteed part of BO's contract?
There is a salary floor so it was money they had to spend anyway...and they have a ton to spend this year. You could argue that they should keep him on the roster and see how he does, but with all of the picks they had last year and will have this year, they need the roster spot.

So...this was one of the first...or maybe THE first....basketball/baseball/moneyball kinds of deals in the NFL.
91AggieLawyer
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What was BO's guaranteed amount? Is that the 16 mil discussed?
lunchbox
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91AggieLawyer said:

What was BO's guaranteed amount? Is that the 16 mil discussed?
Yes, his $16m salary for the 2017 is fully guaranteed.
DannyDuberstein
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They are getting picks to spend money they pretty much have to spend anyway, and with this deal, they do so in a manner that doesn't lock them into bad deals for 2018 and forward which is what they are really building for. It seems to be a sharp move.
Ag_07
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Yeah if anyone went full blown Cleveland it wasn't Cleveland, but Houston....Another year another QB.

That's as Cleveland as it gets.
iceman08
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At first... My thoughts like most "haha Cleveland being Cleveland". But after looking into it more, if the post trade analysis that's rolling in... It really could be a good move. Especially if they trade BO again, gain a few more picks...

Have to wait and see.
CFTXAG10
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Both sides benefit imo
zooguy96
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Texans gonna Texan. But, good riddance to Osweiler. Who will be our QB next year?
Farmer1906
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We have money for Romo now. Overall it's ****ty but that was due to last year's signing. I think we did as best we could to get out of it. I want a vet and a rookie.
TrillOBrien
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If we fail on Romo and don't find a replacement, do we go all out on Cousins next offseason?
astroboy
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This a total "get it off the books trade." And Cleveland can take a flyer on him, being RGKnee isn't going to last the season.
mm98
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astroboy said:

This a total "get it off the books trade." And Cleveland can take a flyer on him, being RGKnee isn't going to last the season.


They're not keeping BO. CLE will cut or trade him.
 
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