YouBet said:

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We can start addressing this now and try to avoid this inevitability, or we can just kick the can down the road and know for sure the bold is going to happen. It will just be a matter of which generation is going to have to deal with this.

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flown-the-coop said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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He had to be, that's my point. Without appeasing the Rinos it wouldn't pass. They are the problem because they forced him to include concessions to what he truly wanted.

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Trump is the most powerful Republican since Reagan. In terms of shear ability to shape policy, maybe the most powerful Republican in 100 years.

He gets what he wants or else he primaries people. He dogs other GOP members in front of their own constituents if they don't fall in line.

He got what he wanted here.

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And thank god he did.

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Jeeper79 said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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He had to be, that's my point. Without appeasing the Rinos it wouldn't pass. They are the problem because they forced him to include concessions to what he truly wanted.

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Trump is the most powerful Republican since Reagan. In terms of shear ability to shape policy, maybe the most powerful Republican in 100 years.

He gets what he wants or else he primaries people. He dogs other GOP members in front of their own constituents if they don't fall in line.

He got what he wanted here.

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No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued…."

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KerrAg76 said:

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Debt a big concern in the MSM and elite talking circles with Trump as POTUS, not more than a peep 4 years prior

Things that make you go ummmmmmm

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GeorgiAg said:

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He's not a president anymore. He's King. He can now just ignore the courts.

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No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued…."

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RIP USA. 1776 - 2025. Hello Divided Republic of Magastan.

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Doesn't change the fact that the bill does nothing to bring down debt and actually increases it. The national debt has been a hot topic on this board, and lots of people said the Democrats were evil for not doing anything about it. What do we call a Republican who does the same thing?

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flown-the-coop said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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He's not a president anymore. He's King. He can now just ignore the courts.

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No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued…."

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RIP USA. 1776 - 2025. Hello Divided Republic of Magastan.

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I have asked specifically that Magastan not include the Democratic Republic of Georgia and its Eastern European socialist ideals it takes from its namesake country.

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flown-the-coop said:

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samurai_science said:

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LMCane said:

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Martin Cash said:

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fc2112 said:

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I don't have the time to read all this, but how does the OT wages exclusion work? I'm sure it's "phased out" for high wage earners, but does anyone know how that phase out works?

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I'm as conservative as they come, but someone please explain why not taxing tips and overtime is fair? It's income. Why should some forms of income be excluded, forcing the rest of us to pay more? Absurd.

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pretty sure the servers are still paying taxes on their W4 salary

just not on the cash tips which they don't ever record anyway.

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Most tips are credit card tips these days, over 90%, in which taxes are paid.

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Are 1099 employees included in the no tax on tips? Cause some of the places where I tip the most use independent contractors for the services provided.

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GeorgiAg said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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He had to be, that's my point. Without appeasing the Rinos it wouldn't pass. They are the problem because they forced him to include concessions to what he truly wanted.

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Trump is the most powerful Republican since Reagan. In terms of shear ability to shape policy, maybe the most powerful Republican in 100 years.

He gets what he wants or else he primaries people. He dogs other GOP members in front of their own constituents if they don't fall in line.

He got what he wanted here.

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He's not a president anymore. He's King. He can now just ignore the courts.

Quote:

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No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued…."

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RIP USA. 1776 - 2025. Hello Divided Republic of Magastan.

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KerrAg76 said:

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Agree, "dollarizing" the bill is not an accurate assessment with more cuts across every department coming …the budget office NEVER gets it right, the number is used by the party not in power to club the other guy…just a big F'n game

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BigN--00 said:

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I was reading yesterday that the no tax on tips and OT was actually going to be an above the line deduction come tax time. Did that make the final bill? If so, doesn't that open it up for rampant fraud.

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Pinochet said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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samurai_science said:

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LMCane said:

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Martin Cash said:

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fc2112 said:

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I don't have the time to read all this, but how does the OT wages exclusion work? I'm sure it's "phased out" for high wage earners, but does anyone know how that phase out works?

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I'm as conservative as they come, but someone please explain why not taxing tips and overtime is fair? It's income. Why should some forms of income be excluded, forcing the rest of us to pay more? Absurd.

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pretty sure the servers are still paying taxes on their W4 salary

just not on the cash tips which they don't ever record anyway.

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Most tips are credit card tips these days, over 90%, in which taxes are paid.

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Are 1099 employees included in the no tax on tips? Cause some of the places where I tip the most use independent contractors for the services provided.

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They will be reported on 1099s and W-2s.

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richardag said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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He had to be, that's my point. Without appeasing the Rinos it wouldn't pass. They are the problem because they forced him to include concessions to what he truly wanted.

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Trump is the most powerful Republican since Reagan. In terms of shear ability to shape policy, maybe the most powerful Republican in 100 years.

He gets what he wants or else he primaries people. He dogs other GOP members in front of their own constituents if they don't fall in line.

He got what he wanted here.

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He's not a president anymore. He's King. He can now just ignore the courts.

Quote:

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No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued…."

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RIP USA. 1776 - 2025. Hello Divided Republic of Magastan.

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Your post has to compete for the most insane idiotic post ever in any forum on any website in the history of the internet.
President Trump is not a fiscal conservative, most people get it. But your post goes to the stratosphere of stupidity.

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richardag said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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He had to be, that's my point. Without appeasing the Rinos it wouldn't pass. They are the problem because they forced him to include concessions to what he truly wanted.

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Trump is the most powerful Republican since Reagan. In terms of shear ability to shape policy, maybe the most powerful Republican in 100 years.

He gets what he wants or else he primaries people. He dogs other GOP members in front of their own constituents if they don't fall in line.

He got what he wanted here.

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He's not a president anymore. He's King. He can now just ignore the courts.

Quote:

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No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued…."

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RIP USA. 1776 - 2025. Hello Divided Republic of Magastan.

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Your post has to compete for the most insane idiotic post ever in any forum on any website in the history of the internet.
President Trump is not a fiscal conservative, most people get it. But your post goes to the stratosphere of stupidity.

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GeorgiAg said:

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richardag said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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He had to be, that's my point. Without appeasing the Rinos it wouldn't pass. They are the problem because they forced him to include concessions to what he truly wanted.

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Trump is the most powerful Republican since Reagan. In terms of shear ability to shape policy, maybe the most powerful Republican in 100 years.

He gets what he wants or else he primaries people. He dogs other GOP members in front of their own constituents if they don't fall in line.

He got what he wanted here.

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He's not a president anymore. He's King. He can now just ignore the courts.

Quote:

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No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued…."

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RIP USA. 1776 - 2025. Hello Divided Republic of Magastan.

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Your post has to compete for the most insane idiotic post ever in any forum on any website in the history of the internet.
President Trump is not a fiscal conservative, most people get it. But your post goes to the stratosphere of stupidity.

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Let me break it down for you.



Trump does whatever he wants.

Court: That's unconstitutional. Issues injunction.

Trump does it anyway.

Court: Anyone who violated our order is in contempt!!!!!!

**** nothing else happens *****

Wash, rinse, repeat.

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flown-the-coop said:

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Deputy Travis Junior said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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The chicken little screaming about the impending debt bomb continues to be nothing but noise.

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We're spending a trillion dollars a year on interest and this guy says complaints about the debt are "nothing but noise."

There's no reasoning with hardcore Trump supporters

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Ok, so let's cut all that spending right now. Go tell it on the mountain, over the hills and everywhere.

And when its nothing but relentless ads showing hungry kids, dead poor people with no healthcare, and American meemaws looking like the Russian jews starving in Ukraine this winter we can see how that hardcore cost-cutting led to overwhelming... likely super-majorities for Dems in the House & Senate. We can then watch them impeach Trump and Vance and install Hakeem Jeffries as POTUS.

That would be some hardcore winning amiright?!?

Doesn't sound so great? Then maybe realize the debt talks are simply noise. NO ONE is willing to take the political hit to do something about it. And POTUS trying has just resulted in leftist judges negating most attempts to cut.

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GeorgiAg said:

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richardag said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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He had to be, that's my point. Without appeasing the Rinos it wouldn't pass. They are the problem because they forced him to include concessions to what he truly wanted.

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Trump is the most powerful Republican since Reagan. In terms of shear ability to shape policy, maybe the most powerful Republican in 100 years.

He gets what he wants or else he primaries people. He dogs other GOP members in front of their own constituents if they don't fall in line.

He got what he wanted here.

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He's not a president anymore. He's King. He can now just ignore the courts.

Quote:

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No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued…."

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RIP USA. 1776 - 2025. Hello Divided Republic of Magastan.

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Your post has to compete for the most insane idiotic post ever in any forum on any website in the history of the internet.
President Trump is not a fiscal conservative, most people get it. But your post goes to the stratosphere of stupidity.

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Let me break it down for you.



Trump does whatever he wants.

Court: That's unconstitutional. Issues injunction.

Trump does it anyway.

Court: Anyone who violated our order is in contempt!!!!!!

**** nothing else happens *****

Wash, rinse, repeat.

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KerrAg76 said:

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Debt a big concern in the MSM and elite talking circles with Trump as POTUS, not more than a peep 4 years prior

Things that make you go ummmmmmm

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Deputy Travis Junior said:

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Then cut the crap and say what you mean. It's not that budget cut discussions are noise, it's that Trump doesn't want to have a serious discussion about budget cuts because he doesn't want to take that political hit.

There's a big difference between "budget cut discussions are just noise" and "Trump doesn't have the stones to force that conversation."

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Logos Stick said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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richardag said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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He had to be, that's my point. Without appeasing the Rinos it wouldn't pass. They are the problem because they forced him to include concessions to what he truly wanted.

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Trump is the most powerful Republican since Reagan. In terms of shear ability to shape policy, maybe the most powerful Republican in 100 years.
He gets what he wants or else he primaries people. He dogs other GOP members in front of their own constituents if they don't fall in line.
He got what he wanted here.

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He's not a president anymore. He's King. He can now just ignore the courts.

Quote:

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No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued…."

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RIP USA. 1776 - 2025. Hello Divided Republic of Magastan.

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Your post has to compete for the most insane idiotic post ever in any forum on any website in the history of the internet.
President Trump is not a fiscal conservative, most people get it. But your post goes to the stratosphere of stupidity.

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Let me break it down for you.
Trump does whatever he wants.
Court: That's unconstitutional. Issues injunction.
Trump does it anyway.
Court: Anyone who violated our order is in contempt!!!!!!
**** nothing else happens *****

Wash, rinse, repeat.

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Ok, do it again, but tell the truth.
Trump hasn't done a damn thing in violation of any court that was a final ruling, fully appealed and ruled on or passed on by SCOTUS.
eta: I know you libs are all about protecting MS-13, but even in those cases, Trump has abided. I honestly wish you and every lib would all get a full taste of MS-13 personally.

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GeorgiAg said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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He had to be, that's my point. Without appeasing the Rinos it wouldn't pass. They are the problem because they forced him to include concessions to what he truly wanted.

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Trump is the most powerful Republican since Reagan. In terms of shear ability to shape policy, maybe the most powerful Republican in 100 years.

He gets what he wants or else he primaries people. He dogs other GOP members in front of their own constituents if they don't fall in line.

He got what he wanted here.

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He's not a president anymore. He's King. He can now just ignore the courts.

Quote:

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No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued…."

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RIP USA. 1776 - 2025. Hello Divided Republic of Magastan.

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ETFan said:

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Want to add, I do like that the work requirement allows volunteering, that IS a good provision.

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flown-the-coop said:

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Deputy Travis Junior said:

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Then cut the crap and say what you mean. It's not that budget cut discussions are noise, it's that Trump doesn't want to have a serious discussion about budget cuts because he doesn't want to take that political hit.

There's a big difference between "budget cut discussions are just noise" and "Trump doesn't have the stones to force that conversation."

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That is sort of what noise means.

If I say "we are not going to talk any further about cutting meemaws medicare and its time to move on" then discussions past that are noise.

The concept of "Trump doesn't have the stones" is about the most horsehit phrase I have ever heard.

Total lack of stones. What a puss.

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WI Sen. Ron Johnson still a no on House-passed reconciliation bill on fiscal grounds, believes bill should be split up & demanding return to pre-pandemic spending

“Somebody's got to be the dad that says, ‘I know everybody wants to go to Disney World. We just can't afford it.’”

— Audrey Fahlberg (@AudreyFahlberg) May 22, 2025

GeorgiAg said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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He's not a president anymore. He's King. He can now just ignore the courts.

Quote:

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No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued…."

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RIP USA. 1776 - 2025. Hello Divided Republic of Magastan.

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I have asked specifically that Magastan not include the Democratic Republic of Georgia and its Eastern European socialist ideals it takes from its namesake country.

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Long Live President Kemp! In exchange, we give you MTG.

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samurai_science said:

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If senate makes changes it goes back to the House, but sounds like it's going to die?

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Im Gipper said:

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Tough row to hoe in the Senate?

WI Sen. Ron Johnson still a no on House-passed reconciliation bill on fiscal grounds, believes bill should be split up & demanding return to pre-pandemic spending

“Somebody's got to be the dad that says, ‘I know everybody wants to go to Disney World. We just can't afford it.’”

— Audrey Fahlberg (@AudreyFahlberg) May 22, 2025

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