DETROIT NEWS: Trump recorded pressuring Wayne County canvassers not to certify 2020 vote https://t.co/qroRtFc3EV via @detroitnews

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) December 22, 2023

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Then-President Donald Trump personally pressured two Republican members of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers not to sign the certification of the 2020 presidential election, according to recordings reviewed by The Detroit News and revealed publicly for the first time.

McDaniel, a Michigan native and the leader of the Republican Party nationally, said at another point in the call, "If you can go home tonight, do not sign it. ... We will get you attorneys."

To which Trump added: "We'll take care of that."

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"How can anybody sign something when you have more votes than people?" Trump asked the canvassers, according to the recordings.

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Jonathan Brater, Michigan's election director, said in an affidavit that the overall difference citywide in absentee ballots tabulated and names in poll books in Detroit was 150(out of 878,000). There were "fewer ballots tabulated than names in the poll books," Brater said.

"If ballots had been illegally counted, there would be substantially more, not slightly fewer, ballots tabulated than names in the poll books,"

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Sounds like y'all have an air tight case that will definitely get him this time

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It's going to be hilarious when everything he's done is vacated as void.

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Whistle Pig said:

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It was illegal to not certify. The canvassers role is ceremonial. There were more poll book balancing problems in the '20 primary and these same chuds had no problem signing that certification.

Trump did better in Detroit in 2020 than in 2016 BTW, if one were to look for a "fraud" signal in the data.

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As chief election officer, Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson today announced she has taken steps to ensure the accuracy of Michigan's voter file by formally requesting membership in the Electronic Registration Information Center (ERIC).

"In November, Michigan voters made it clear: Like me, they believe it should be easier to vote and harder to cheat," Benson said today. "We're taking the first step toward achieving that goal by ensuring the accuracy of our voter registration file."

Benson said once Michigan is a member of ERIC a self-governing, multistate partnership dedicated to the accuracy of the nation's voter files the state will have unprecedented insight into the integrity of its voter rolls thanks to the collaboration of participating states, key federal databases and the use of sophisticated and secure data-matching technology.

"In terms of election security, this is an important first step," she said.

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ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

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Whelp….its starting to look awfully clear that leftist superhero Jack Smith has exactly ZERO authority to be prosecuting any cases - including the Trump matters - on behalf of the United States. It's going to be hilarious when everything he's done is vacated as void. Talk about egg on the leftist fanbois' respective faces.

Here's a nice brief on the issue:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-624/293864/20231220140217967_US%20v.%20Trump%20amicus%20final.pdf

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BMX Bandit said:

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It's going to be hilarious when everything he's done is vacated as void.

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you can't really think thats a possibility, do you?

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ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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It's going to be hilarious when everything he's done is vacated as void.

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you can't really think thats a possibility, do you?

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lol no. But interesting the issues that come out of the woodwork in a case like this.

I've been against this whole process from the get-go as inviting continued escalations between political factions.

This is just another weird wrinkle in the process and further affirmation that this whole process is purely partisan. Anyone unwilling to acknowledge that is completely deluded.

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BMX Bandit said:

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i think the whole thing is political, but don't see how this brief is any evidence of that. its a theory from a professor that has failed before and one that Trump hasn't even moved to dismiss on.

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BMX Bandit said:

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i think the whole thing is political, but don't see how this brief is any evidence of that. its a theory from a professor that has failed before and one that Trump hasn't even moved to dismiss on.

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Wasn't that issue brought up in the Manafort case? Or am I misremembering?

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Ags77 said:

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Sounds like Trump might have said, " don't certify the results and we will take care of you. ( lawyers) ".

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Barnyard96 said:

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Did anything illegal occur here or not?

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DENIED! The Supreme Court has denied Joe Biden's special prosecutor, Jack Smith's request to deny President Trump due process and short circuit his immunity appeal. Trump will have his day in court. h/t @kyledcheney pic.twitter.com/gLPG5KXYRB

— @amuse (@amuse) December 22, 2023

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Just delays the inevitable loss at the appeals circuit and then at SCOTUS by a couple(or several) weeks. The immunity claim forcefielding any and all criminal conduct while in office is preposterous. He'll lose like he always does but they've been effective at delay.

8-1 or 9-0.

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Jack Smith filed the appeal, not Trump, fyi.

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BMX Bandit said:

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Jack Smith filed the appeal, not Trump, fyi.

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Trump filed the appeal. Smith filed the cert requesting scotus hear it before DC circuit

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Earlier this month the judge in the case, Judge Tanya Chutkan, denied a Motion to Dismiss filed by the former President based on a claim of absolute immunity for official acts taken while in office. That outcome was not surprising in the least, but what is surprising is that it took nearly two months for the decision to be made, and it was made without the benefit of any oral argument on the motion.

President Trump filed a Notice of Appeal on this issue not something normally allowed in a criminal case before trial, but a question of immunity is one that can go to the appellate court in this fashion.

Realizing that such a trip to the appellate court would very likely prevent the case from going to trial in 82 days (2024 being a Leap Year) as scheduled, Special Counsel Jack Smith filed a Request for Certiorari Before Judgment. This is a request to SCOTUS which it can turn down to have a matter heard without waiting for the matter to first be decided by the appellate court.

When four Justices of the United States Supreme Court voted to hear the Section 1512 case, they knew that would eliminate the need for an expedited briefing on Trump's immunity appeal. Because the Fischer case would move at the normal speed through the Supreme Court's briefing, argument, and decision process, the immunity appeal could do the same. With two of the four charges against Trump being based on the Section 1512 statute the Supreme Court is going to review, the D.C. case could not proceed to trial while the Fischer case is under review.

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basically, which was denied because they took Fischer.

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With two of the four charges against Trump being based on the Section 1512 statute the Supreme Court is going to review, the D.C. case could not proceed to trial while the Fischer case is under review.

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BMX Bandit said:

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Don't really understand what you are asking, but yes this is this an actual attempt to go after him

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TXAggie2011 said:

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All that to say, I don't think the Court is playing chess with the different appeals. I think they didn't take Trump's immunity case immediately on wholly distinct and separate grounds.

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