MBAR said:
TCTTS said:
johncAG said:
Every thing I would have said about this movie has been said already
Enjoyed it more than I thought I would after seeing reviews. Wanda and America Chavez were both great and hopefully involved more. Horror aspect was different in a good way.
The only negative thing I have about the movie is that it confirms what I was worried about (TCTTS has mentioned it before but I was still holding out hope until this movie). What is the end goal? We know that the end of Loki will be important but how are the remaining Avengers getting back together? How are the future teams ups coming? I think we have to realize that the Feige Brain Trust is not as far along on the next step as a lot would have thought post Endgame. I think CoVid probably messed up schedules but the only announced project in the new future that has any hope at moving the grand plot along is Ant Man. I really hoped we would have gotten some groundwork on how the X-Men/F4 would be coming. But is that really Disneys fault? Or are we the audience expecting too much now. It's a similar way I feel about the Disney Plus shows. I have enjoyed everyone in different ways but so far, only Loki and Wandavision (in this movie) has felt like it was required watching for the big picture.
Well put. And yeah, right there with you. To me, the MCU isn't just a bunch of connected stories. It's connected stories that are actively building toward something. At least that's what it was for 11 years. But it feels like Marvel no longer cares about that distinction now. And sure, it all very well could be leading toward Secret Wars or whatever, but they're not cluing us into that fact. That's the difference. Give us morsels. Give us better hints. Just make it more apparent that this is all going to pay off in a bigger way, even if it's not until, say, three years from now.
I'm now convinced this phase has just been a big push for Disney+. And honestly, the content is suffering a bit for it although maybe its a case where volume does make up for a decrease in quality. I'm also still willing to give them a bit of a break since the shuffling of 4-5 properties due to pandemic is probably affecting the stories more than we are giving them credit for. The entire plot of this movie revolves around Wandavision but this was supposed to come out BEFORE Wandavision so what the hell was the plot before? A quest to get vision back? Wandavision/DS2/Spiderman had to have been radically different in another order.
All that being said, ultimately it really just seems like to me that they're treading water while they do a lot of the D+ shows and introductions. I can't imagine the next big bad is gonna be anyone but Kang, but not having seen him even alluded to in the properties since Loki makes me start to question that. It just seemed that his creation of the multiverse would have implications on this movie if thats what they wanted but they don't so much as even bring up that idea so who knows.
Going back through the thread, assuming this secret wars plot is where they are headed, how many years do you think it will realistically take them to set up for the conclusion? For infinity wars, it took them 4 years to even hint at Thanos in the first avengers. So is it unrealistic to expect the MCU to already be showing you what the ultimate goal is for the next big conclusion? Especially considering Covid delayed everything two years and they are having to replace the two or three biggest stars from the Avengers as a result of Endgame?
I would bet we start seeing hints at the end of phase 4 of where the story is ultimately headed, but that's what, 2-3 years away?
The biggest issue to me going forward is marvel finding the leaders for the next avenger storylines to replace Steve and Tony, and Natasha as wel for a glue type character.
