***** Loki - Season 1 Discussion Thread (Wednesdays - Jun 9 - Jul 14) *****

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redline248 said:

Have we even seen any non human variants, yet?

I suppose technically, Loki isn't human


They showed non-human variant lokis in that holographic scene.
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redline248 said:

Have we even seen any non human variants, yet?

I suppose technically, Loki isn't human


Wasn't there a kree, or mention of kree in the first episode?

Also, for whatever reason, there's lots of races other than humans that look like humans. GOTG is full of them (Most of the Nova Corps, kraglin, most of the Ravagers, the collector, etc). Asgardians and some of the Kree (Jude law) as well.
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TexasAggie_02 said:

redline248 said:

Have we even seen any non human variants, yet?

I suppose technically, Loki isn't human


Wasn't there a kree, or mention of kree in the first episode?

Also, for whatever reason, there's lots of races other than humans that look like humans. GOTG is full of them (Most of the Nova Corps, kraglin, most of the Ravagers, the collector, etc). Asgardians and some of the Kree (Jude law) as well.
there is an in-Marvel explanation similar to that in ST: TNG for why a large number of the races all look similar.
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C@LAg said:

TexasAggie_02 said:

redline248 said:

Have we even seen any non human variants, yet?

I suppose technically, Loki isn't human


Wasn't there a kree, or mention of kree in the first episode?

Also, for whatever reason, there's lots of races other than humans that look like humans. GOTG is full of them (Most of the Nova Corps, kraglin, most of the Ravagers, the collector, etc). Asgardians and some of the Kree (Jude law) as well.
there is an in-Marvel explanation similar to that in ST: TNG for why a large number of the races all look similar.


White privilege?




Sorry guys. That was a softball and I had to swing.
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Fun (useless) Fact- I had C-20 in class about 9 years ago. Quirky and interesting girl.
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cadetjay02 said:

Fun (useless) Fact- I had C-20 in class about 9 years ago. Quirky and interesting girl.


Go on.
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AMW2010 said:

cadetjay02 said:

Fun (useless) Fact- I had C-20 in class about 9 years ago. Quirky and interesting girl.


Go on.


I did my own research

Sasha Bianca Lane (born September 29, 1995)[1][2] is an American actress.

Lane was born in Houston, Texas, and grew up in Dallas, Texas. She attended Texas State University in San Marcos, Texas, but left.

In 2018, Lane described herself as gay,[24] having previously called herself bisexual.[25] In 2020, she gave birth to a daughter.[26]

Lane has schizoaffective disorder.[27] As of 2016, she lives in Los Angeles.[5]

Sooo in summary she wasn't acting in that last scene, she really is crazy?
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They just say Dallas, but she lived in Plano and went to high school in Frisco. I was her teacher, so don't know the extent of her escapades, but you could tell that she knew how to have fun.
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It said Frisco and all the details, I just cut it down to what I posted because there was a lot.
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I like the theory that the actual timekeepers have long vacated their positions, or they never existed in the first place. The real timekeepers are everyone in that mission control room you see go bonkers at the end of episode two.
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AMW2010 said:

AMW2010 said:

cadetjay02 said:

Fun (useless) Fact- I had C-20 in class about 9 years ago. Quirky and interesting girl.


Go on.


I did my own research

Sasha Bianca Lane (born September 29, 1995)[1][2] is an American actress.

Lane was born in Houston, Texas, and grew up in Dallas, Texas. She attended Texas State University in San Marcos, Texas, but left.

In 2018, Lane described herself as gay,[24] having previously called herself bisexual.[25] In 2020, she gave birth to a daughter.[26]

Lane has schizoaffective disorder.[27]
As of 2016, she lives in Los Angeles.[5]

Sooo in summary she wasn't acting in that last scene, she really is crazy?
Certainly checks out.
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No it does not.
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I find these shows are more enjoyable if you don't try to go find every video on youtube that spells out every single scene for you.

I do like discussing it with other people, and seeing how we differ in what we take from a given episode.
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Not a bad take at all. Kinda prototypical "water cooler" talk, which honestly we could use more of.
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I hate to be cynical, but even with a truce on YouTube watching, someone is going to watch and pawn those ideas off as original. Thinking back to game of thrones discussions where people had read legit spoilers and tried to act like they were "guessing."
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JCRiley09 said:

I hate to be cynical, but even with a truce on YouTube watching, someone is going to watch and pawn those ideas off as original. Thinking back to game of thrones discussions where people had read legit spoilers and tried to act like they were "guessing.
For sure thats what would happen, I wasn't saying we should do it either.

This show is very interesting so far, looking forward to next Wednesday.
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I am not seeking any content outside of this thread. So anything I say I either heard in here or made up myself.

I legitimately have no idea which direction they are going.

I know the TVA exists "outside of time", so this isn't happening after the first Avengers movie despite that being when this show picks up. But I'm wondering if anything we've seen in WV and CA&WS is based on a mixture of post snap and multiverse.

Also, do we get more Black Widow after her movie? Maybe an older, alternate timeline version of her shows up in a future movie or show?
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mazag08 said:

I am not seeking any content outside of this thread. So anything I say I either heard in here or made up myself.

I legitimately have no idea which direction they are going.

I know the TVA exists "outside of time", so this isn't happening after the first Avengers movie despite that being when this show picks up. But I'm wondering if anything we've seen in WV and CA&WS is based on a mixture of post snap and multiverse.

Also, do we get more Black Widow after her movie? Maybe an older, alternate timeline version of her shows up in a future movie or show?
The TVA is at the end of time and goes back in time to address issues. So it is "after" every event.

Both TV show were after the snap. No apparent multiverse activities as both had straightforward narratives.

Yes, more Black Widow but it is likely Yelena Belova will be the Black Widow going forward.
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C@LAg said:

mazag08 said:

I am not seeking any content outside of this thread. So anything I say I either heard in here or made up myself.

I legitimately have no idea which direction they are going.

I know the TVA exists "outside of time", so this isn't happening after the first Avengers movie despite that being when this show picks up. But I'm wondering if anything we've seen in WV and CA&WS is based on a mixture of post snap and multiverse.

Also, do we get more Black Widow after her movie? Maybe an older, alternate timeline version of her shows up in a future movie or show?
The TVA is at the end of time and goes back in time to address issues. So it is "after" every event.

Both TV show were after the snap. No apparent multiverse activities as both had straightforward narratives.

Yes, more Black Widow but it is likely Yelena Belova will be the Black Widow going forward.
The way Owen described it though is that the Timekeepers are still working on the very end of time so maybe they are more towards the end but not totally at the end? Maybe he used the word "epilogue"?

In my mind, they are basically outside of time in a bubble and can enter the timeline at any point they want to from beginning to end as needed.
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YouBet said:

C@LAg said:

mazag08 said:

I am not seeking any content outside of this thread. So anything I say I either heard in here or made up myself.

I legitimately have no idea which direction they are going.

I know the TVA exists "outside of time", so this isn't happening after the first Avengers movie despite that being when this show picks up. But I'm wondering if anything we've seen in WV and CA&WS is based on a mixture of post snap and multiverse.

Also, do we get more Black Widow after her movie? Maybe an older, alternate timeline version of her shows up in a future movie or show?
The TVA is at the end of time and goes back in time to address issues. So it is "after" every event.

Both TV show were after the snap. No apparent multiverse activities as both had straightforward narratives.

Yes, more Black Widow but it is likely Yelena Belova will be the Black Widow going forward.
The way Owen described it though is that the Timekeepers are still working on the very end of time so maybe they are more towards the end but not totally at the end? Maybe he used the word "epilogue"?

In my mind, they are basically outside of time in a bubble and can enter the timeline at any point they want to from beginning to end as needed.


That's the impression I got.

Now what about the Morbius theories? I know nothing of the comics. Are there multiple version of him out there? The drink ring scene in the office seem to hint that there are other analysts and it would seem potentially other versions of him.
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Mobius. I sort of assumed it was a play on the Mobius strip - a single-sided, single-edged shape that is "infinite" in measurement.
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10 mins in, Loki has to be returned to the timeline to star in Thor 2: Dark World, no?

Or did the TVA "reverse time" at the end of Avengers1 to put a Loki back in the correct flow of time?
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I thought the drink scene was just about him being the only one that doesn't use a coaster, after he tried to make an excuse for not using one.
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The Debt said:

10 mins in, Loki has to be returned to the timeline to star in Thor 2: Dark World, no?

Or did the TVA "reverse time" at the end of Avengers1 to put a Loki back in the correct flow of time?
Should have him jump to another timeline where Thor 2 is showing in the theaters. Show him go in, have 30 minutes go by, he comes back out saying, "No Thanks."
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The Debt said:

10 mins in, Loki has to be returned to the timeline to star in Thor 2: Dark World, no?

Or did the TVA "reverse time" at the end of Avengers1 to put a Loki back in the correct flow of time?
Loki 2 timeline has been deleted
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The Debt said:

10 mins in, Loki has to be returned to the timeline to star in Thor 2: Dark World, no?

Or did the TVA "reverse time" at the end of Avengers1 to put a Loki back in the correct flow of time?


This loki is from a branched timeline. His branch has been erased. Has no effect on Thor 2.
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How badass would it be if we all think Loki is still dead in the main timeline at the end of this show, but at a key moment in Thor, Love and Thunder one of those TVA portals opens up and Loki walks through with that smile on his face.
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CoachRTM said:

How badass would it be if we all think Loki is still dead in the main timeline at the end of this show, but at a key moment in Thor, Love and Thunder one of those TVA portals opens up and Loki walks through with that smile on his face.
i would bet that what happens is they do a similar scene , but it is with Kid Loki and Thor, at the end of Season 2, so he (kid loki) can tie into Young Avengers. KL hangs around a while with the YA, and then reverts to form, and we get Hiddleston again.
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Loving this show so far, there are so many different ways it can go that I stopped trying to figure it out. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ride. Not looking at anything on the internet trying to break down this show and where it's going.

Was taking a gander at the Loki IMDB and the only thing that jumped out at me is that Richard E. Grant is slated to be in 4 episodes and has no character name listed. He hasn't been in the first 2 and there are only 4 left so I'm assuming he's going to be playing a pivotal role for the series.

He's been MCU adjacent, played Dr. Rice in Logan, but I doubt that means anything for this show. I don't see Loki as the platform where the X-Men enter the MCU.
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Was one of her horns cut off in the episode this week?
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Good question. I don't remember.
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I don't think so. I seem to remember two horns, just shorter than the Loki we're used to.
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TexasAggie_02 said:

The Debt said:

10 mins in, Loki has to be returned to the timeline to star in Thor 2: Dark World, no?

Or did the TVA "reverse time" at the end of Avengers1 to put a Loki back in the correct flow of time?


This loki is from a branched timeline. His branch has been erased. Has no effect on Thor 2.

So there IS a Loki-prime that IS in Asguard jail as all this with the TVA unfolds?
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No. In the store the crown had both horns, but smaller than Hiddleston's normal crown from Avengers.
 
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