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Another great episode, need to think on it for a night.

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3. They did (at least mildly) explain how there are Loki variants. How I understand it, some anomalous event occurs (Loki born as a female instead of a male). Once that event cause enough of a ripple in the timeline (for her apparently it took a few years), the TVA catches it and resets it. Resetting it, I assume, completely resets the timeline back to the inciting incident (in this case, the birth of Loki).

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This is interesting, because I'd just assumed that the different Loki's meant there were actually multiple timelines.

I saw an interesting thought on Reddit, that may support your idea of the TVA allowing different Loki's to live until they stray too far off the sacred timeline. I'll put spoiler tags on it since I don't know if was an original thought or something gleaned from elsewhere: This person noticed how young Sylvie was playing with toys and saying something about saving Asgard. They thought that maybe she was showing kindness which was the Nexus event for a Loki. You also see a Loki wielding a hammer. Maybe that Loki was pruned because, in his universe, he was worthy of yielding the hammer.

I like your idea, because I can at least get my head around how there are Loki's that look vastly different on a single timeline. Maybe it's different universes running in parallel to the Sacred Timeline that are allowed to continue as long as they don't stray too far. Maybe that was completely obvious, I don't know. Time travel and timelines gets weird and confusing quickly for me.

I still don't love that explanation, but it's probably all we're going to get.

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2. I guess I'm on board the Kang is pulling the strings bandwagon. That makes me wonder if the TVA headquarters is the same city that is seen in the quantum realm in the original Ant-Man (akin to Quantum Realm City in the comics).

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This is what makes sense to me. The TVA is in the city shown in Ant Man & the Wasp (not the original Ant Man).

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texasaggie04 said:

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2. I guess I'm on board the Kang is pulling the strings bandwagon. That makes me wonder if the TVA headquarters is the same city that is seen in the quantum realm in the original Ant-Man (akin to Quantum Realm City in the comics).

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This is what makes sense to me. The TVA is in the city shown in Ant Man & the Wasp (not the original Ant Man).

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Will look for that.

Just finished the episode. I am so lost and confused, but in a good way I guess.

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Fightin TX Aggie said:

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texasaggie04 said:

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2. I guess I'm on board the Kang is pulling the strings bandwagon. That makes me wonder if the TVA headquarters is the same city that is seen in the quantum realm in the original Ant-Man (akin to Quantum Realm City in the comics).

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This is what makes sense to me. The TVA is in the city shown in Ant Man & the Wasp (not the original Ant Man).

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Will look for that.

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It's a framed shot in the quantum realm. A bubble that clearly has a large city within it.

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Loved the episode but that Snopes fight scene was absolutely terrible. Complete amateur hour. One of the worst, choreographed fight scenes I've ever seen. What else bad can I say about it?

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It was Ian McDiarmid's old ass trying to act like a master sith swordsman in episode 3 bad.

Maybe they blew too much on the effects in the previous episode that they couldn't afford to hire good choreographers or stunt people.

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I mean, they wouldn't bring in Owen for just 2.75 episodes. Have a feeling he and Hiddleston will still play major roles going forward

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There are still unused scenes from the trailers earlier this year. one trailer scene has mobius driving a truck towards the pyramids

Anyone else getting braveheart vibes from the score this episode?

okay, just watched episode 4...

it's right there with episode 2 for the best of the series.

kudos to the posters that predicted a TVA ex-machina rescue of Loki and Sylvie.

Mobius' pruning is the moment of the series so far. That was a shocker. Figured the jet skiing would be referenced again. After the end credit scene...not sure if pruning equals death completely.

glad the time keepers turned out to be robots. Wonder if the TVA mastermind is someone from Asgard (or the Thor movies) or of Asgardian lore

What's a nexus event?

regarding the fight scenes...not sure the show really needs them.

folks don't think of Loki as a "brawler" to begin with

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What's a nexus event?

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Loki taking the tesserect and vanishing from the Avengers in the past during End Game was a nexus event. Anything that isn't "supposed to happen" that causes a time branch.

That episode was SO Much better
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hard to say if any of that really matches with the city shots we have seen, but I like the idea

Can't tell if serious

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Loved the episode but that Snopes fight scene was absolutely terrible. Complete amateur hour. One of the worst, choreographed fight scenes I've ever seen. What else bad can I say about it?

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It was Ian McDiarmid's old ass trying to act like a master sith swordsman in episode 3 bad.

Maybe they blew too much on the effects in the previous episode that they couldn't afford to hire good choreographers or stunt people.

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The other ones have been acceptable. This one was insulting to me.

And it looks like pruning clearly doesn't kill you. I'm not convinced that was NYC where Loki ended up but probably a good guess since the buildings look like earth.

I'm now wondering if instead of killing variants they are shipping them off to self contained pruned timelines. IOW, maybe it's something like the Shadow Zone where General Zod goes.

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I'm not convinced that was NYC where Loki ended up but probably a good guess since the buildings look like earth.

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if we go by the trailer we know that Loki shows up on a destroyed New York with the Avengers building in the background

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texasaggie04 said:

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2. I guess I'm on board the Kang is pulling the strings bandwagon. That makes me wonder if the TVA headquarters is the same city that is seen in the quantum realm in the original Ant-Man (akin to Quantum Realm City in the comics).

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This is what makes sense to me. The TVA is in the city shown in Ant Man & the Wasp (not the original Ant Man).

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Good catch, you're right. Thanks.
Grabbed a photo of it off the internet for anybody who hasn't seen it. It's essentially an Easter egg that is seen when the ship is getting larger and leaving the quantum realm.

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I'm not convinced that was NYC where Loki ended up but probably a good guess since the buildings look like earth.

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if we go by the trailer we know that Loki shows up on a destroyed New York with the Avengers building in the background

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Well there you go. So I'm thinking this is a dead timeline they sent him to that has been pruned.

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When a nexus event creates a new timeline, and the TVA clips that timeline, then the TVA just committed mass geniocide, right?

Even Thanos only took half the life in the universe. The TVA eliminates all life, and the universe itself. Am I getting that right?

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Actually I'm not sure we know this either anymore. If pruning somebody sends them to another timeline, then resetting a timeline might not destroy anything. Maybe it... seals everything off in some self-contained universe? Therefore actually creating a multiverse?

Real life science about multiverse

Admittedly this is all way above my feeble brain. But if each universe is its own sphere, maybe resetting the timeline somehow separates that branch from the "sacred timeline" and creates a new universe. Therefore the "sacred timeline" is nothing more than a single universe bending to the whim of the timekeepers (or Kang, or whoever).

Hopefully that makes sense. Maybe think of it more like a cell dividing. Perhaps there is actually only a single universe (the cell) and it would just chug along like normal but the act of resetting the timeline itself causes the cell to divide thereby creating that second universe, and resetting the original back to the cell as it was.

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When a nexus event creates a new timeline, and the TVA clips that timeline, then the TVA just committed mass geniocide, right?

Even Thanos only took half the life in the universe. The TVA eliminates all life, and the universe itself. Am I getting that right?

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Actually I'm not sure we know this either anymore. If pruning somebody sends them to another timeline, then resetting a timeline might not destroy anything. Maybe it... seals everything off in some self-contained universe? Therefore actually creating a multiverse?

Real life science about multiverse

Admittedly this is all way above my feeble brain. But if each universe is its own sphere, maybe resetting the timeline somehow separates that branch from the "sacred timeline" and creates a new universe. Therefore the "sacred timeline" is nothing more than a single universe bending to the whim of the timekeepers (or Kang, or whoever).

Hopefully that makes sense. Maybe think of it more like a cell dividing. Perhaps there is actually only a single universe (the cell) and it would just chug along like normal but the act of resetting the timeline itself causes the cell to divide thereby creating that second universe, and resetting the original back to the cell as it was.

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This is what I said just above although you said it more eloquently. Coincidentally, I'm finishing up a SciFi trilogy right now where what you stated on bold is a very similar story arc being played out in this book.