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Gig-Em2003
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Unreal
Brian Earl Spilner
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If the estimate holds, it beat Spider-Man 2's Monday by almost 50%.

This thing is gonna be enormous.
jabberwalkie09
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Monday estimates have been adjusted to $40M.

http://deadline.com/2015/12/star-wars-force-awakens-monday-box-office-record-1201670879/
Wow, that's amazing.
Zombie Jon Snow
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WOW!!!!

Brian Earl Spilner
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Calling my shot: Second weekend is breaking $150M.
The Collective
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Holy crap. I believe I mentioned this in the other thread, but when I went online to pick seats for a showing tomorrow night options were limited. I ended up with two in the back row. The only other place I could find two together was in the front row. I checked about 6 different showings of the movie from 5:30 to 8:00 at various places.
Brian Earl Spilner
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I've seen it mentioned on a lot of places, but the craziest thing about all this is that there are a LOT of people who haven't seen it yet. A lot of the older crowd are probably holding off until the "crowds die down", a lot are going on Christmas Day, etc.

I'm willing to bet over 70% of the revenue so far is just the die hard fanboys.
redd38
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Crazy thing is, it needs to break $900M just to make the top 10 adjusted list.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm
The adjusted list is bull****, I'm not sure why people even look at that. It's not accurate at all.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Completely agree redd. I saw the Collider guys talk about this - I think going by ticket sales would also be unfair since the population is growing very rapidly, not to mention the cultural differences of having many more entertainment options now than in the 30s-70s.

It's just not an apples-to-apples comparison either way.
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I've seen it mentioned on a lot of places, but the craziest thing about all this is that there are a LOT of people who haven't seen it yet. A lot of the older crowd are probably holding off until the "crowds die down", a lot are going on Christmas Day, etc.

I'm willing to bet over 70% of the revenue so far is just the die hard fanboys.


This. I haven't seen it yet and I know only a handful of people that have so far. This thing is going to have some pretty long legs.
dfphotos
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why cant they just list the number of tickets sold? ugh
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why cant they just list the number of tickets sold? ugh


Because what really matters in the marketplace is how much money people spend on the product, not how many people buy it.
Brian Earl Spilner
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One thing worth mentioning is that the $120M opening day included marathon tickets which were selling for $59.

So in pure numbers it probably didn't beat HP's opening day, and if it did it wasn't by much.
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One thing worth mentioning is that the $120M opening day included marathon tickets which were selling for $59.

So in pure numbers it probably didn't beat HP's opening day, and if it did it wasn't by much.
Did HP count marathon tickets?
Brian Earl Spilner
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Did they have marathons?

Good question.
Gig-Em2003
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Realistically, how many people do you think actually did that marathon?

10,000?

I can't imagine it was a huge number.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Yeah, you're probaby right. Even if it was 50k it only comes out to about $2 million in extra revenue.
Farmer1906
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Did they have marathons?

Good question.
http://www.slashfilm.com/night-harry-potter-marathon-leading-deathly-hallows-part-2/
Bruce Almighty
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why cant they just list the number of tickets sold? ugh
Because trying to figure out how many tickets Gone with the Wind sold would probably be impossible.
Zombie Jon Snow
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Did they have marathons?

Good question.
yes HP had marathons...I seriously considered it....
redd38
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Completely agree redd. I saw the Collider guys talk about this - I think going by ticket sales would also be unfair since the population is growing very rapidly, not to mention the cultural differences of having many more entertainment options now than in the 30s-70s.

It's just not an apples-to-apples comparison either way.
Yeah, there's no perfect way to compare movies from the past... especially the really old ones. That's why I only care about the actual, un-adjusted, domestic number (just don't care about international numbers). I figure inflation is like newer technology and techniques in sports. Athletes of today have a big advantage over athletes from 50 years ago... but that just ensures that records continually get beat. And that's what people like to see, records fall. In sports and box office numbers.
Zombie Jon Snow
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Completely agree redd. I saw the Collider guys talk about this - I think going by ticket sales would also be unfair since the population is growing very rapidly, not to mention the cultural differences of having many more entertainment options now than in the 30s-70s.

It's just not an apples-to-apples comparison either way.
Yeah, there's no perfect way to compare movies from the past... especially the really old ones. That's why I only care about the actual, un-adjusted, domestic number (just don't care about international numbers). I figure inflation is like newer technology and techniques in sports. Athletes of today have a big advantage over athletes from 50 years ago... but that just ensures that records continually get beat. And that's what people like to see, records fall. In sports and box office numbers.
thats kind of odd...i mean i like to see records broken too and it is fun to watch the numbers but that is more of a comparison for the near-term (vs. JW or Avatar for example) where inflation has less effect.

The adjusted for inflation is pretty telling in terms of putting it in overall perspective.....

I mean in the all-time domestic list SW is #7 (due to re-release and special edition or it would be like 50th) and it trails The Phantom Menace....thats just wrong. Looking at it from an adjusted point of view you can see just how huge Star Wars was in its day...like nothing since. It may not be completely accurate but it definitely had the impact of being #2 all-time and recent action movies really have only come to within about 60% of what it did.




Brian Earl Spilner
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While I agree with you, I just can't make sense of some of those in the top 10 adjusted list. Snow White at #10 with $909M? The Exorcist $922M? Really?

There's no way you can convince me that more people saw those than Avatar or Empire Strikes Back.
Zombie Jon Snow
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While I agree with you, I just can't make sense of some of those in the top 10 adjusted list. Snow White at #10 with $909M? The Exorcist $922M? Really?

There's no way you can convince me that more people saw those than Avatar or Empire Strikes Back.

Snow White had 4 major re-releases the first coming in 1937 and some smaller re-releases every 10 years or so....that adds up....and those early years adjusted for inflation it becomes pretty big...I don't think they accurately have it's numbers from then, but it is not a bad estimate.

You probably aren't aware but in relative terms it was a HUGE smash hit in its day - the highest grossing film off all-time before Gone With the Wind came along 2 years later.....

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On December 21, 1937, however, "Snow White" silenced these cynics when it premiered to a packed house at the Carthay Circle Theatre. Stars such as Shirley Temple, Clark Gable, Ginger Rogers, Judy Garland and Cary Grant attended the Hollywood premiere, while more than 30,000 fans unable to score a $5 ticket gathered outside the theater to share in the night's excitement. Charlie Chaplin told the Los Angeles Times after the premiere that the film "even surpassed our highest expectations. In Dwarf Dopey, Disney has created one of the greatest comedians of all time."

"Snow White" went on to become a massive hit worldwide, grossing more than any other movie in history up to that time. ("Gone With the Wind" would surpass it in 1939.) At the time of its 50th anniversary in 1987, the New York Times reported that "Snow White" had grossed some $330 million worldwide, and remained one of the most popular films ever made. It was also the first American film to have a soundtrack album released simultaneously with the film's release, featuring such famous songs as "Heigh-Ho," "Whistle While You Work" and "Someday My Prince Will Come."

In addition to its commercial success, the movie received a special Academy Award, including one full-size Oscar and seven dwarf-sized statuettes. Its sophisticated artistic composition notably influenced such directors as Federico Fellini and Orson Welles, whose opening shot in 1941's "Citizen Kane" (a castle at night with one illuminated window) is nearly identical to the first shot of "Snow White."

The stunning success of "Snow White" marked a turning point in the career of Walt Disney, and established him among the world's most celebrated filmmakers. The quality of its animation, voiceover work and musical score set a high standard for all future animated features made by Disney or any other studio. Along with "Pinocchio" (1940), it is widely considered to be Disney's greatest film.



Brian Earl Spilner
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Snow White had 4 major re-releases the first coming in 1937 and some smaller re-releases every 10 years or so....that adds up....
Ah, and there we have it. Same thing as GWTW.

And once they start adjusting inflation from movies in the 30's/40's, the numbers get really crazy.
Bruce Almighty
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The Exorcist was massive and going to the movies was dirt cheap compared to today.
Zombie Jon Snow
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Snow White had 4 major re-releases the first coming in 1937 and some smaller re-releases every 10 years or so....that adds up....
Ah, and there we have it. Same thing as GWTW.

And once they start adjusting inflation from movies in the 30's/40's, the numbers get really crazy.

also consider that very few films comparatively were made then...less competition and every film was considered family type entertainment. there was no rating system and all films were basically made for mass market and for a wide audience. great films would run for a year or more (Snow White ran for 2 years and GWTW ran for nearly 4 years in some places)...there was little other entertainment choices. most towns had one theater or two showing movies at most twice per night. so they ran forever. and there was not TV until 10 years later at least.

Now the population was much lower (something like 130 million in 1939 if i recall) meaning a HUGE percentage of people saw it, something like 50% in the first 4 years - again there were no other options.

If 50% of the population saw a movie today that would be 160 million people (if they saw it just once) and at $8.34 average movie ticket price (including matinees) that would be $1.28 billion.

Thats why you see crazy numbers for movies from the 30's and 40's that were HUGE....they were HUGE.

Brian Earl Spilner
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Official for Monday: $40.1M; $81.8M global.

Worldwide cume up to $610M.

http://deadline.com/2015/12/star-wars-force-awakens-monday-box-office-record-1201670879/
Brian Earl Spilner
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Records to beat:

Tuesday
Amazing Spider-Man 35 (Opening day)
JW 24.3
Avatar 16

Wednesday
Transformers 29 (Second day)
JW 19.8
Avatar 16.4

Thursday
JW 17.8
Avatar 11
(Probably won't beat these since it's Christmas Eve)
Zombie Jon Snow
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Records to beat:

Tuesday
Amazing Spider-Man 35 (Opening day)
JW 24.3
Avatar 16

Wednesday
Transformers 29 (Second day)
JW 19.8
Avatar 16.4

Thursday
JW 17.8
Avatar 11
(Probably won't beat these since it's Christmas Eve)
I wouldn't doubt it can beat any of those right now....

LOTS of people who saw it once over the weekend may go again before xmas - we are likely going tomorrow.

I have other family that have not seen it yet and were avoiding the weekend and are planning to go this week.

Thursday it just needs 18 million and it is hitting 2x that right now...yes it is xmas eve but heck Avatar hit $11 million on xmas eve and it had a fair amount of competition (Sherlock and Chipmunks).



HeadGames
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It will beat those. Ton of people like myself see movies traditionally on both Christmas and Christmas Eve.
Fat Bib Fortuna
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$288m puts it in 68th place all-time.
I know inflation, ticket prices, etc., but ESB made $290m total.

Will break $300 m easily on its 5th day.
Took JW 8 days to get to $300m
Brian Earl Spilner
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Frank Marshall's lucky he didn't get b****-slapped, stepping to Lucas like that.
oragator
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40 million on a weekday is insane. Even if it is a holiday week.
 
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