His grandmother is in fact Silvia Gonzalez, she was a spanish teacher at my high school. During my brother's spanish class she would FaceTime Kellen and let the kids talk to him. The facts within the letter do line up. I thought this would be helpful in giving the letter some credibility, especially from someone who knew his grandmother.
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as a society we must acknowledge what was done in the past and how a legacy of hate and racism is hurting our fellow African American citizens today
Clown post. Slavery and racial wrongs have been MORE than acknowledged and addressed ad infinitum. Also, as a Texan-American who happens to be black, I'm not "hurt" at all by the sins of ancestors (mine or yours). I control my own life. Any minority American has the opportunity to do the same. A mixed QB1 (NTTAWWT, as my own kids are mixed) leading a misguided charge to pull down a freaking statue does absolutely NOTHING to address or improve anything regarding race relations. In fact, one could say it's had the opposite effect.
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His grandmother is in fact Silvia Gonzalez, she was a spanish teacher at my high school. During my brother's spanish class she would FaceTime Kellen and let the kids talk to him. The facts within the letter do line up. I thought this would be helpful in giving the letter some credibility, especially from someone who knew his grandmother.
Thanks... Street Thug?
Never going to happen cupcake, so it's better you accept it now.Pease said:I predicted this would be among the first comments. No person alive is responsible for the sin of slavery, but as a society we must acknowledge what was done in the past and how a legacy of hate and racism is hurting our fellow African American citizens today. We do not blame individuals but we as a nation have a societal responsibility. That is what BLM demands.Tanya 93 said:So why does BLM demand reparations for slavery?Pease said:
This is a racist diatribe. Second paragraph and Farias is writing about Mond's athletic genes!? Go ahead and critique the man if you must, but attacking Mond because of the actions of his ancestors is a particularly cruel ad hominum attack; since when is a person responsible for the sins of their ancestors? Imagine protesting at the homes of Ross's descendants? Dragging someones grandmother into the argument? This is doxing at its worst.
Read this.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/
Dems may run on it, but all politicians are power hoars and only say this during campaign season. Then they abandon the promise, because there's not enough support.
You're getting played by your dem masters.
GD Tanya yes. This exactly.
Voice of reason . Thank you !tbirdspur2010 said:Quote:
as a society we must acknowledge what was done in the past and how a legacy of hate and racism is hurting our fellow African American citizens today
Clown post. Slavery and racial wrongs have been MORE than acknowledged and addressed ad infinitum. Also, as a Texan-American who happens to be black, I'm not "hurt" at all by the sins of ancestors (mine or yours). I control my own life. Any minority American has the opportunity to do the same. A mixed QB1 (NTTAWWT, as my own kids are mixed) leading a misguided charge to pull down a freaking statue does absolutely NOTHING to address or improve anything regarding race relations. In fact, one could say it's had the opposite effect.
Standing ovation for you sir. This is the heart of the issue. A&M is a place that has the values driven culture that we can have those conversations. Time for the Marxist doctrine driven, tribalism promoting grifters to pack their bags and take a hike. We won't stand for that and never will.
Yep. As a 65 y/o guy, it amazes me how often stuff like this happens. And you literally can not make it up.tbirdspur2010 said:
This is amazing stuff.
This is fun.
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attacking Mond because of the actions of his ancestors is a particularly cruel ad hominum attack; since when is a person responsible for the sins of their ancestors?
Are you aware that John Singer, an Associate Dean at A&M, has co-authored an article which argues that Kyle Field should be renamed because Kyle's father fought in the Confederate army?
https://journals.humankinetics.com/view/journals/jsm/aop/article-10.1123-jsm.2019-0303/article-10.1123-jsm.2019-0303.xml?content=pdf-6970
Kyle is guilty under the category of "racism through Confederate ties," according to the article:
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Utilizing a collective case study approach, the authors identified 18 facilities that were named after athletic administrators, coaches, and philanthropists who engaged in racist activities or harbored racist views.
E J Kyle had nothing to do with the Confederacy, but his father did, so the son is guilty of racism.
That's coming from an Associate Dean at Texas A&M.
Great rebuttal. It never ever stops, and if you give them an inch they'll take it a mile
It's not about Mond needing to denounce his ancestors. To do so would be meaningless. I may have ancestors who were confederates, but it has nothing to do with who I am now.
The point is this should help him realize that people are a product of their time. Pretty much every white (or Hispanic in this case) person in Texas supported the confederacy. That's the point. That Ross was a great man who was a product of his time and quite a progressive ally to blacks. It's about learning from history not labeling or shaming someone.
The point is this should help him realize that people are a product of their time. Pretty much every white (or Hispanic in this case) person in Texas supported the confederacy. That's the point. That Ross was a great man who was a product of his time and quite a progressive ally to blacks. It's about learning from history not labeling or shaming someone.
some of the staff of Benavides Calvary. (33rd Calvary Reg.)
seated left is Major Refugio Benavides, brother of Santos Benavides and Capt. Cristobal Benavides (3rd from left), a half brother to Col. Santos Benavides
So since you support BLM, what do LGBT, Marxism, and climate change have to do with black lives mattering?Pease said:I predicted this would be among the first comments. No person alive is responsible for the sin of slavery, but as a society we must acknowledge what was done in the past and how a legacy of hate and racism is hurting our fellow African American citizens today. We do not blame individuals but we as a nation have a societal responsibility. That is what BLM demands.Tanya 93 said:So why does BLM demand reparations for slavery?Pease said:
This is a racist diatribe. Second paragraph and Farias is writing about Mond's athletic genes!? Go ahead and critique the man if you must, but attacking Mond because of the actions of his ancestors is a particularly cruel ad hominum attack; since when is a person responsible for the sins of their ancestors? Imagine protesting at the homes of Ross's descendants? Dragging someones grandmother into the argument? This is doxing at its worst.
Read this.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/
Thanks in advance.
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Are y'all enjoying this as much as me? We do not even have to say anything, they are kicking their own butts.OldArmy71 said:Quote:
attacking Mond because of the actions of his ancestors is a particularly cruel ad hominum attack; since when is a person responsible for the sins of their ancestors?
Are you aware that John Singer, an Associate Dean at A&M, has co-authored an article which argues that Kyle Field should be renamed because Kyle's father fought in the Confederate army?
https://journals.humankinetics.com/view/journals/jsm/aop/article-10.1123-jsm.2019-0303/article-10.1123-jsm.2019-0303.xml?content=pdf-6970
Kyle is guilty under the category of "racism through Confederate ties," according to the article.
E J Kyle had nothing to do with the Confederacy, but his father did, so the son is guilty of racism.
That's coming from an Associate Dean at Texas A&M.
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just changed a couple of words.Pease said:
... attacking caucasions because of the actions of their ancestors is a particularly cruel ad hominum attack; since when is a person responsible for the sins of their ancestors?
For those who know irony, is this irony?
This has been an enjoyable couple of days for sure. It was depressing to watch the control of the media message, the constant spin, the drumbeat of insistence that we are all racist. The turn around has been superb.dermdoc said:Are y'all enjoying this as much as me? We do not even have to say anything, they are kicking their own butts.OldArmy71 said:Quote:
attacking Mond because of the actions of his ancestors is a particularly cruel ad hominum attack; since when is a person responsible for the sins of their ancestors?
Are you aware that John Singer, an Associate Dean at A&M, has co-authored an article which argues that Kyle Field should be renamed because Kyle's father fought in the Confederate army?
https://journals.humankinetics.com/view/journals/jsm/aop/article-10.1123-jsm.2019-0303/article-10.1123-jsm.2019-0303.xml?content=pdf-6970
Kyle is guilty under the category of "racism through Confederate ties," according to the article.
E J Kyle had nothing to do with the Confederacy, but his father did, so the son is guilty of racism.
That's coming from an Associate Dean at Texas A&M.
We need more pease posts. I am bored.Dad-O-Lot said:just changed a couple of words.Pease said:
... attacking caucasions because of the actions of their ancestors is a particularly cruel ad hominum attack; since when is a person responsible for the sins of their ancestors?
For those who know irony, is this irony?
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look into your lineage. If you can trace through all paternal line (or some other ways, kinda depends) you may be entitled to Italian citizenship. My paternal grandfather was born here before my paternal great grandfather got naturalized so all I have to do is prove up the lineage and I get citizenship.AGinHI said:
Descendant of poor Italian immigrants checking in.
Wish my family had some of that Mond privilege.
88planoAg said:This has been an enjoyable couple of days for sure. It was depressing to watch the control of the media message, the constant spin, the drumbeat of insistence that we are all racist. The turn around has been superb.dermdoc said:Are y'all enjoying this as much as me? We do not even have to say anything, they are kicking their own butts.OldArmy71 said:Quote:
attacking Mond because of the actions of his ancestors is a particularly cruel ad hominum attack; since when is a person responsible for the sins of their ancestors?
Are you aware that John Singer, an Associate Dean at A&M, has co-authored an article which argues that Kyle Field should be renamed because Kyle's father fought in the Confederate army?
https://journals.humankinetics.com/view/journals/jsm/aop/article-10.1123-jsm.2019-0303/article-10.1123-jsm.2019-0303.xml?content=pdf-6970
Kyle is guilty under the category of "racism through Confederate ties," according to the article.
E J Kyle had nothing to do with the Confederacy, but his father did, so the son is guilty of racism.
That's coming from an Associate Dean at Texas A&M.
And it's why we can never give in. Victory is there for the taking to those that don't quit. It's part of the secret of the left's success over the years.
Fortune favors the bold - and those that keep fighting.
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some of the staff of Benavides Calvary. (33rd Calvary Reg.)
seated left is Major Refugio Benavides, brother of Santos Benavides and Capt. Cristobal Benavides (3rd from left), a half brother to Col. Santos Benavides
Photoshop clearly. We all know that the CSA comprised nothing but lily-white folks bent on nothing but abject supremacy of the white race.
No person alive has been held in bondage under the laws of the United States. To support a group that seeks to obtain "reparations" for people who were never victims of slavery, but would instead, benefit merely by the result of their genetic makeup, is the worst kind of racism.Pease said:I predicted this would be among the first comments. No person alive is responsible for the sin of slavery, but as a society we must acknowledge what was done in the past and how a legacy of hate and racism is hurting our fellow African American citizens today. We do not blame individuals but we as a nation have a societal responsibility. That is what BLM demands.Tanya 93 said:So why does BLM demand reparations for slavery?Pease said:
This is a racist diatribe. Second paragraph and Farias is writing about Mond's athletic genes!? Go ahead and critique the man if you must, but attacking Mond because of the actions of his ancestors is a particularly cruel ad hominum attack; since when is a person responsible for the sins of their ancestors? Imagine protesting at the homes of Ross's descendants? Dragging someones grandmother into the argument? This is doxing at its worst.
Read this.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/
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blindey said:look into your lineage. If you can trace through all paternal line (or some other ways, kinda depends) you may be entitled to Italian citizenship. My paternal grandfather was born here before my paternal great grandfather got naturalized so all I have to do is prove up the lineage and I get citizenship.AGinHI said:
Descendant of poor Italian immigrants checking in.
Wish my family had some of that Mond privilege.
I honestly thought this was headed towards being "made" in the mafia after the first sentence and a half.
I am class of '70, and have lived in west texas all my life. Thank you a wonderful description of what it is like. Yours is the best thing I have ever read on this subject.
I doubt if he is that deep. I just think he thinks he is smarter than everyone else.NicosMachine said:Pease fears he will suffer the same fate as many Jacobins if we examine these issues too closely. If we apply his logic, he will be guilty. He will suffer the guillotine. Today's Jacobins, Marxists, use blacks the same way the Jacobins used the Sans-coulotte. If history were still taught, pawns like Kellen Mond would see how they are being used by privileged Marxists to do their dirty work.Fightin TX Aggie said:
Of all the bad takes in this thread, the one by Pease is the worst.
All he wants is to silence you. Silence the discussion.
This thread raises deeper issues that people like Pease want you to ignore. How important is history? How do we judge our forbears? What is privilege? Who benefits from systems of power, today and over time? Should we today be judged by the acts of our direct forbears? Of those who have no relation to us but "looked like" us? Can America be fairly painted with a broad racist narrative, or all we all more complex and alike than we are different?
Pease doesn't want you to have that conversation.
People like Pease have sat in faculty dungeons for years, brewing cauldrons of deadly poison, carefully adding in every drop of hatred and stem of envy. Every tincture of white fragility and quart of supremacy.
Now Pease thrusts a glass of his brew and says, "Drink! This will cure your racism."
"Wait, what is in this?
"YOU DON'T GET TO ASK WHAT'S IN IT. DRINK, IT."
Well, Pease can take his demand for silence and go back to his cauldron. The cure for what ails us is not silence or anger. It is real discussion and goodwill.
Go sell hatred and cancel culture somewhere else, Pease.
Peace.
This is fun.
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The associate dean of history is a devoted Marxist as is the dean of history . What a they doing on this campus , oh president Young . We
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dermdoc said:I doubt if he is that deep. I just think he is smarter than everyone else.NicosMachine said:Pease fears he will suffer the same fate as many Jacobins if we examine these issues too closely. If we apply his logic, he will be guilty. He will suffer the guillotine. Today's Jacobins, Marxists, use blacks the same way the Jacobins used the Sans-coulotte. If history were still taught, pawns like Kellen Mond would see how they are being used by privileged Marxists to do their dirty work.Fightin TX Aggie said:
Of all the bad takes in this thread, the one by Pease is the worst.
All he wants is to silence you. Silence the discussion.
This thread raises deeper issues that people like Pease want you to ignore. How important is history? How do we judge our forbears? What is privilege? Who benefits from systems of power, today and over time? Should we today be judged by the acts of our direct forbears? Of those who have no relation to us but "looked like" us? Can America be fairly painted with a broad racist narrative, or all we all more complex and alike than we are different?
Pease doesn't want you to have that conversation.
People like Pease have sat in faculty dungeons for years, brewing cauldrons of deadly poison, carefully adding in every drop of hatred and stem of envy. Every tincture of white fragility and quart of supremacy.
Now Pease thrusts a glass of his brew and says, "Drink! This will cure your racism."
"Wait, what is in this?
"YOU DON'T GET TO ASK WHAT'S IN IT. DRINK, IT."
Well, Pease can take his demand for silence and go back to his cauldron. The cure for what ails us is not silence or anger. It is real discussion and goodwill.
Go sell hatred and cancel culture somewhere else, Pease.
Peace.
This is fun.
Please has no idea what a Jacobin is/was. He thinks that calling Mond a Robespierre is a racial slur.
do you mean department head?dchack1971 said:
The associate dean of history is a devoted Marxist as is the dean of history . What a they doing on this campus , oh president Young . We
OldArmy71 said:Quote:
attacking Mond because of the actions of his ancestors is a particularly cruel ad hominum attack; since when is a person responsible for the sins of their ancestors?
Are you aware that John Singer, an Associate Dean at A&M, has co-authored an article which argues that Kyle Field should be renamed because Kyle's father fought in the Confederate army?
https://journals.humankinetics.com/view/journals/jsm/aop/article-10.1123-jsm.2019-0303/article-10.1123-jsm.2019-0303.xml?content=pdf-6970
Kyle is guilty under the category of "racism through Confederate ties," according to the article.
E J Kyle had nothing to do with the Confederacy, but his father did, so the son is guilty of racism.
That's coming from an Associate Dean at Texas A&M.
These people have gotten filthy rich off of our generosity and love for A&M.
The simple fact is they loath us.
And that is why NotAnotherDime
Pease said:
This is a racist diatribe. Second paragraph and Farias is writing about Mond's athletic genes!? Go ahead and critique the man if you must, but attacking Mond because of the actions of his ancestors is a particularly cruel ad hominum attack; since when is a person responsible for the sins of their ancestors? Imagine protesting at the homes of Ross's descendants? Dragging someones grandmother into the argument? This is doxing at its worst.
Wait, how is the bolded portion racist?
Yes, I am there myself.
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tbirdspur2010 said:Pease said:
This is a racist diatribe. Second paragraph and Farias is writing about Mond's athletic genes!? Go ahead and critique the man if you must, but attacking Mond because of the actions of his ancestors is a particularly cruel ad hominum attack; since when is a person responsible for the sins of their ancestors? Imagine protesting at the homes of Ross's descendants? Dragging someones grandmother into the argument? This is doxing at its worst.
Wait, how is the bolded portion racist?
Oh c'mon, surely you know that old racist chestnut about the athletic prowess of Mexicans. That's why they're ubiquitous at all levels of professional sports.
Amazing thread.
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