Will be shocked if they don't at least move into the teens to get his Buddy Coulibaly.
superunknown said:
Javtokas instantly reminds me of the old spurstalk message boards. Good times! Chout out to Viktor Sanikidze for blazing a Viktorius trail for Wemby.
I think the need to take a patient approach is right, which is why it is more important to use draft assets can cap space to get proven veterans to take the pressure off of Wemby.Sher Thing said:
I 100% think the Spurs need to take a patient approach with Wemby. As has been stated numerous times, he's only 19 and is used to playing one game a week in the French league. The NBA is a totally different ball game and it is going to take two or three seasons for him to hit his stride.
The Spurs have set themselves up well with 12 first round picks over the next five years; however, they should continue to explore trading for first rounders by taking on some undesirable contracts like they have been doing. Just because you got your guy doesn't mean the approach has to completely change overnight.
I understand that there is no way the Spurs use all 12 first rounders over the next five years; thus why would you want to add more; however, the great thing about stockpiling firsts is you can eventually trade all those assets for a star if the opportunity presents itself.
I'm sure the fan base wants the team to try and use draft picks to trade for proven players now but I think the Spurs are smarter than that and I think Wemby is smart enough to see the big picture also.
I certainly wouldn't be handing out any big long-term deals this Summer or taking on any large multi-year contracts without some other form of compensation (1st rounders).
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Since it's over now, I've seen some teams getting picks #2,3,4,5,6 and I was happy to see them getting these picks. I'm very happy about the outcome.
Sher Thing said:
Yeah I totally agree that the Spurs need to sign a couple low to mid tier veterans. I'm mostly saying that I wouldn't start blowing our cap space by signing guys to $100MM contracts right now or trading for vets with $60MM left on their current deals (unless draft capital is attached).
I think Naz Reid is a solid option at Center. I also like Mason Plumlee for that role.
Mike Conley at PG is an interesting option that is reportedly maybe on the market that would be a good veteran presence you might be looking for on a young team.
A lot of speculation around Keldon Johnson and his long-term fit with the club. We could probably move back into the Top 7 of the draft with a Keldon + future 1st combo. Orlando at 6 might take that. I go both ways on that as I agree that moving Keldon for someone you think has a higher ceiling (Black, Amen, etc.) is totally fine; however, you lose a lot of production off last years squad.
If the Suns can't trade Chris Paul, they may cut and stretch him (15mm guaranteed stretched over 3 years saves them 25mm this year on cap.) If you want him, hold off and give him the option to come here on a vet min.Iowaggie said:Sher Thing said:
Yeah I totally agree that the Spurs need to sign a couple low to mid tier veterans. I'm mostly saying that I wouldn't start blowing our cap space by signing guys to $100MM contracts right now or trading for vets with $60MM left on their current deals (unless draft capital is attached).
I think Naz Reid is a solid option at Center. I also like Mason Plumlee for that role.
Mike Conley at PG is an interesting option that is reportedly maybe on the market that would be a good veteran presence you might be looking for on a young team.
A lot of speculation around Keldon Johnson and his long-term fit with the club. We could probably move back into the Top 7 of the draft with a Keldon + future 1st combo. Orlando at 6 might take that. I go both ways on that as I agree that moving Keldon for someone you think has a higher ceiling (Black, Amen, etc.) is totally fine; however, you lose a lot of production off last years squad.
What if any of these teams call and say they want to trade this veteran & their weighty contract? Assume the only cost to Spurs is a lightly protected 2nd round pick or Doug McDermott, and the trading team may (or may not) throw in a future draft pick to get off the contract. Who would you want?
Suns: Chris Paul
Wizards: Bradly Beal
Warriors: Jordan Poole
Nets: Ben Simmons
Hawks: John Collins
Hornets: Gordon Haywood
Bulls; Lonzo Ball
Heat: Duncan Robinson
Iowaggie said:Sher Thing said:
Yeah I totally agree that the Spurs need to sign a couple low to mid tier veterans. I'm mostly saying that I wouldn't start blowing our cap space by signing guys to $100MM contracts right now or trading for vets with $60MM left on their current deals (unless draft capital is attached).
I think Naz Reid is a solid option at Center. I also like Mason Plumlee for that role.
Mike Conley at PG is an interesting option that is reportedly maybe on the market that would be a good veteran presence you might be looking for on a young team.
A lot of speculation around Keldon Johnson and his long-term fit with the club. We could probably move back into the Top 7 of the draft with a Keldon + future 1st combo. Orlando at 6 might take that. I go both ways on that as I agree that moving Keldon for someone you think has a higher ceiling (Black, Amen, etc.) is totally fine; however, you lose a lot of production off last years squad.
What if any of these teams call and say they want to trade this veteran & their weighty contract? Assume the only cost to Spurs is a lightly protected 2nd round pick or Doug McDermott, and the trading team may (or may not) throw in a future draft pick to get off the contract. Who would you want?
Suns: Chris Paul
Wizards: Bradly Beal
Warriors: Jordan Poole
Nets: Ben Simmons
Hawks: John Collins
Hornets: Gordon Haywood
Bulls; Lonzo Ball
Heat: Duncan Robinson
LawHall88 said:
Bring back Lonnie!
Talk within the Warriors about Kuminga developing into a Shawn Marion-type/level player.AggieEP said:
Jordan Poole is borderline unplayable as well some days... but if the Spurs could take him + either Moody or Kuminga then I think it's worth a gamble. It'll be 4 years before you have to pay Wemby and Sochan, so Poole's money is not going to handicap you long term.
I think there is real talent in Kuminga in particular, he just doesn't have an avenue to minutes on the Warriors, the Spurs could let him play big minutes and see what potential is there.
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Perhaps he was in the mood for a very particular wine.
Sher Thing said:
Yeah I totally agree that the Spurs need to sign a couple low to mid tier veterans. I'm mostly saying that I wouldn't start blowing our cap space by signing guys to $100MM contracts right now or trading for vets with $60MM left on their current deals (unless draft capital is attached).
I think Naz Reid is a solid option at Center. I also like Mason Plumlee for that role.
Mike Conley at PG is an interesting option that is reportedly maybe on the market that would be a good veteran presence you might be looking for on a young team.
A lot of speculation around Keldon Johnson and his long-term fit with the club. We could probably move back into the Top 7 of the draft with a Keldon + future 1st combo. Orlando at 6 might take that. I go both ways on that as I agree that moving Keldon for someone you think has a higher ceiling (Black, Amen, etc.) is totally fine; however, you lose a lot of production off last years squad.
HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:Iowaggie said:Sher Thing said:
Yeah I totally agree that the Spurs need to sign a couple low to mid tier veterans. I'm mostly saying that I wouldn't start blowing our cap space by signing guys to $100MM contracts right now or trading for vets with $60MM left on their current deals (unless draft capital is attached).
I think Naz Reid is a solid option at Center. I also like Mason Plumlee for that role.
Mike Conley at PG is an interesting option that is reportedly maybe on the market that would be a good veteran presence you might be looking for on a young team.
A lot of speculation around Keldon Johnson and his long-term fit with the club. We could probably move back into the Top 7 of the draft with a Keldon + future 1st combo. Orlando at 6 might take that. I go both ways on that as I agree that moving Keldon for someone you think has a higher ceiling (Black, Amen, etc.) is totally fine; however, you lose a lot of production off last years squad.
What if any of these teams call and say they want to trade this veteran & their weighty contract? Assume the only cost to Spurs is a lightly protected 2nd round pick or Doug McDermott, and the trading team may (or may not) throw in a future draft pick to get off the contract. Who would you want?
Suns: Chris Paul
Wizards: Bradly Beal
Warriors: Jordan Poole
Nets: Ben Simmons
Hawks: John Collins
Hornets: Gordon Haywood
Bulls; Lonzo Ball
Heat: Duncan Robinson
Personally, I entertain the possibility of Poole, Simmons, or Ball, but that's it. Big fat No on the rest. Regarding the ones I would at least consider, Lonzo if healthy is the easiest choice considering the talent he brings. But that is a massive IF. Poole is next bc he brings points but it honestly would take more than your hypothetical IMO, but if you can get him for McBuckets and trash, why the hell not? We need a guy that could fill it out like he can. Simmons will always be an intriguing prospect. I guess I'm naive that if you can get someone like that for little real capital, why the hell not? The guy could use being out of the spotlight of a big market. And with his defensive length, it's very appealing
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Wyoming said:
I think Fred Van Fleet might be a good free agent option point guard. Good defender, runs the floor well.
And please go after Khris Middleton. With him and a couple of others, we ae contending in a few years.
I have it on good authority that Gregg Popovich hopped on a flight to Paris yesterday.
— Tom Petrini (@RealTomPetrini) May 18, 2023
Perhaps he was in the mood for a very particular wine.