*****2022-2023 San Antonio Spurs Thread*****

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2:09p, 6/25/23
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24 years ago today
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3:53p, 6/25/23
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I thought he was a long shot for us anyways, but I would have really liked to go after him.
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In reply to West Texan • 4:40p, 6/25/23
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I liked him too, but we also didn't overpay for a LSU player.

Minnesota paying Gobert 41mm, Towns 36mm, Reid 12mm, SloMo 9mm, McDaniels 4mm.

$102mm of the 136mm salary cap on post.

Now everyone knows they are desperate to trade Towns. Let's see how that happens.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 9:09p, 6/25/23
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Guitarsoup said:
I liked him too, but we also didn't overpay for a LSU player.

Minnesota paying Gobert 41mm, Towns 36mm, Reid 12mm, SloMo 9mm, McDaniels 4mm.

$102mm of the 136mm salary cap on post.

Now everyone knows they are desperate to trade Towns. Let's see how that happens.


Nuts.
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10:13a, 6/26/23
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Wemby not playing World Cup.
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12:45p, 6/26/23
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Hawks finally dumping Collins.



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In reply to Guitarsoup • 1:06p, 6/26/23
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Hawks finally dumping Collins.


Quite a fall for Collins - from budding superstar to salary dump in two years.
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2:33p, 6/26/23
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Stein said spurs would have had interest in Naz had he made it to FA. I have a feeling we are gonna go for Lopez in light of this.
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In reply to Enzo The Baker • 2:36p, 6/26/23
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Enzo The Baker said:
Stein said spurs would have had interest in Naz had he made it to FA. I have a feeling we are gonna go for Lopez in light of this.


I don't think Lopez fits our timeline since he's already 35.

I bet we are already talking to Jakob
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 2:40p, 6/26/23
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Man that would be incredible.
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In reply to Enzo The Baker • 5:07p, 6/26/23
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If big Jak can handle being on a borderline playoff team next year and then make deep playoff runs until he retires....yeah. Come back home, buddy
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In reply to superunknown • 5:56p, 6/26/23
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superunknown said:
If big Jak can handle being on a borderline playoff team next year and then make deep playoff runs until he retires....yeah. Come back home, buddy
We're gonna be in a better place than the Scottie Barnes/Gradey Dick Raptors.

Gary Trent is opting in b/c no one will pay him and FVV is likely gone.

They have already been shopping OG and Pascal, but also think both deserve a Paul George-type trade for no apparent reason.
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7:04p, 6/26/23
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So is it about time to start the 23-24 thread?

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In reply to 2008and1 • 7:40p, 6/26/23
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2008and1 said:
So is it about time to start the 23-24 thread?

Sean: "Most young guys are asking what clubs to go to in different towns. Victor asked us 'How do you make sure you get enough hours of sleep when you are on the road?' "
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 7:48p, 6/26/23
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Guitarsoup said:
superunknown said:
If big Jak can handle being on a borderline playoff team next year and then make deep playoff runs until he retires....yeah. Come back home, buddy
We're gonna be in a better place than the Scottie Barnes/Gradey Dick Raptors.

Gary Trent is opting in b/c no one will pay him and FVV is likely gone.

They have already been shopping OG and Pascal, but also think both deserve a Paul George-type trade for no apparent reason.


That would be a hell of fleecing. Toronto gets a half season rental to lose the play in game, we get a first and 2 seconds, then resign Poeltl-jam? That would be fantastic.
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In reply to West Texan • 7:58p, 6/26/23
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West Texan said:
Guitarsoup said:
superunknown said:
If big Jak can handle being on a borderline playoff team next year and then make deep playoff runs until he retires....yeah. Come back home, buddy
We're gonna be in a better place than the Scottie Barnes/Gradey Dick Raptors.

Gary Trent is opting in b/c no one will pay him and FVV is likely gone.

They have already been shopping OG and Pascal, but also think both deserve a Paul George-type trade for no apparent reason.


That would be a hell of fleecing. Toronto gets a half season rental to lose the play in game, we get a first and 2 seconds, then resign Poeltl-jam? That would be fantastic.
Depends if another team closer to a title comes calling.

OKC seems to want to run Chet at C.
Indiana has Jarace Walker and Myles Turner
Detroit has Wiseman, Bagley Stewart, and Duren.
Utah has Kessler
Orlando has Wendell Carter and Paolo


No one else has cap space. If OKC comes calling, maybe he says yes. Jakob, Chet, Williams, Giddey, SGA is solid. But I don't think they are going that direction.

So do you want to play with Wemby/Sochan/Vassell/Keldon/Branham or Scottie Barnes, Dick, Trent and whoever they trade Pascal and OG Anunoby for?
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10:04a, 6/27/23
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No surprise but Stein reporting that LAL would match's max offer sheet to Reaves ($100MM). Not sure if posturing but he's getting paid.
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10:58a, 6/27/23
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San Antonio was known to be waiting with a short-term contract for Reid and the hope of pairing him with Victor Wembanyama in the frontcourt, sources said. Now the Spurs will have to turn to other targets, perhaps someone like Pelicans center Jonas Valaninas, as New Orleans and San Antonio recently did business on offloading Devonte' Graham's contract, and the Pelicans, sources said, have since made Valaninas available in search of more mobile, rim-protecting big men.
https://sports.yahoo.com/2023-nba-free-agency-with-john-collins-trade-forwards-dominating-early-discussions-151510087.html
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11:13a, 6/27/23
Charles Bassey 6'11" 235 lbs per 40 minute stats based on last season:

16 points
15 rebounds
1.4 steals
2.5 blocks
3.6 assists
64% field goals
37.5% from 3
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11:18a, 6/27/23
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KOC reporting that Reaves' camp hopes SA is the team that makes Reaves a big offer sheet.
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1:08p, 6/27/23
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Valanciunas is an intriguing option.
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4:13p, 6/27/23
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DiVincenzo declined player option to become free agent.
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4:48p, 6/27/23
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Toronto, you want that first rounder back next year?
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In reply to Sher Thing • 4:51p, 6/27/23
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Sher Thing said:
Valanciunas is an intriguing option.


Things I like about Jo Val:
-he's perfect to deal with all the physical play on the interior
-I think he'd be a great enforcer, along with Zach, to make sure that Wemby is protected
-really good rebounder, solid shooter to provide spacing, good scoring touch inside
-contract is expiring next season if we don't want to keep him around

Things I don't like:
-he's not a great defender. He's lumbering and doesn't move his feet great on the perimeter, and he averaged less than a block a game this last season. Leaves a lot to be desired as a rim protector.
-he's not a great passer. For his career he averages more turnovers than assists. I haven't watched enough of his game (outside of playing against the Spurs), so idk if he just lacks vision or if it's selfishness.

I think he'd be a pretty good fit on the team, but it depends on what New Orleans wants for him. For the right price, he'd be nice to get us to the salary floor and we'd still have future cap flexibility.
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5:01p, 6/27/23
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Yeah, Jonas doesn't provide the defense or athleticism we would want.

Also, he has one more year in NOLA before he is a FA and I don't think they are ready to dump him, unless they can pull of a Zion for Dame and Nurkic trade.
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5:01p, 6/27/23
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If Miami can't trade Kyle Lowry, they plan to waive and stretch him to save money.

Wouldn't mind giving him a 1y to start over Tre Jones.
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5:09p, 6/27/23
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Well there are reports that NOLA is interested in trading Valanciunas. I think he's a decent fit. He's a big body who can deal with the bigger centers of the league and has decent range to step out of the paint a bit. Certainly not a great defender but I think he would ft in well with what we have. Not sure what it would take to get him though.

Not sure I like the idea of putting a bigger center next to Wemby who can't shoot the ball. Gonna cringe every time he drives to the paint if there's nothing but feet around. I think finding a big with range is key... one of the reasons Collins seems like a good fit; however, doubtful Collins stays healthy a full season. Not sure I exactly like how Poeltl would fit next to Wemby tbh. Not really interested in 50% free throw shooters but it looks like he's likely to stay in Toronto anyway. I still like the Brook Lopez fit as well.
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5:12p, 6/27/23
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Yeah Lowry wouldn't be a bad signing. He seems like a good locker room guy as long as he's okay with a reduced role. Not really interested in seeing him play 30-35 mpg here.
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5:13p, 6/27/23
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Just not a lot of FA centers.

  • Kristaps
  • Naz Reid
  • Brook Lopez - 35yo
  • Jakob Poeltl
  • Dwight Powell (completely washed)
  • Nikola Vucevic (no defense)
  • Mo Bamba
  • Mason Plumlee (I think he goes back to Clippers)
  • Drew Eubanks
  • Chimezie Metu
  • Jock Landale (like half the guys are ex-Spurs)
  • Mo Wagner (probably stays in Orlando with his brother, adding a German to protect the French seems like a bad idea)
  • Trez Harrell (only 11mpg last year)
  • Paul Reed (only 10mpg last year)
  • Mike Muscala - 31yo, 16mpg for Boston. Can stretch defenses, would take on Vet Min
  • Willy Hernangomez - 29yo, no defense
  • Dario Saric 29yo, no D, stretch 5
  • Thomas Bryant, 25yo, Denver traded for him, then never played him. Can't defend anyone
  • Moses Brown - can rebound and nothing else
  • Mamu - current Spur, great passer, bad defender
  • Biyombo - has some defense, but rocks instead of hands
  • Boban - Great Center or Greatest Center?
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5:13p, 6/27/23
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I doubt we make any big moves. If I had to guess we re-sign KBD and Jones and sign someone like DiVincenzo.

I don't see us making any trades to improve the roster (more likely to take on salary for more draft capital). Giving up draft assets for a JV expiring contract doesn't make sense to me.
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In reply to Enzo The Baker • 5:22p, 6/27/23
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I dont think anyone is giving picks for taking salaries.

They Warriors already said **** it and the Clippers seem to be saying that as well. Plus the Clippers don't have a pick until like 27 or so.


Utah just gave away a 2nd round pick for the right to pay John Collins' worthless ass 78mm.
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5:23p, 6/27/23
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Stein says Lakers match no matter what. Also, the time limit for matching is down to 24 hours. I feel like it used to be a week.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 5:29p, 6/27/23
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Guitarsoup said:


Stein says Lakers match no matter what. Also, the time limit for matching is down to 24 hours. I feel like it used to be a week.

The 24 hour rule is awesome. Didn't know about that. It was way too punitive for the teams making the offer. Good move by the league.
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5:37p, 6/27/23
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Just saw the Jonas rumors. I'd let them off load them for the cheap price of one Dyson Daniels.
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