***Official 2021-2022 San Antonio Spurs Season Thread***

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In reply to Guitarsoup • 9:56p, 6/29/22
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Windhorse saying that Murray (and Rich Paul his agent) told the Spurs he wouldn't sign an extension this summer.


Yeah this is being overlooked by emotional fans. Wright was looking out to 2024. Murray's trade value was only going down from here. It was very smart albeit un-Spurs like to cash out on an asset early.

The Murray deal itself was criticized when it was signed. How ironic that now it's a valuable team friendly trade asset. We just landed the same deal that the Pelicans got from Milwaukee for Jrue Holiday. Now which picks would you rather have? Milwaukee or Atlanta?
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In reply to superunknown • 9:57p, 6/29/22
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Spurs front office didn't learn anything from the Nephew fiasco, or watching the Jrue trade go down.

Just more incompetence. SMH.

Can't wait for them to bring Patty back so he and Pop can wine it up on the road next year too.


K cap'n. Lay out what you would have done differently.


Not getting one of Okongwu, Hunter, or Griffin is a failure. I have seen elsewhere that Spurs opted for a future pick instead of Okongwu. That's dumb.
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 10:00p, 6/29/22
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FTAG 2000 said:
superunknown said:
FTAG 2000 said:
Spurs front office didn't learn anything from the Nephew fiasco, or watching the Jrue trade go down.

Just more incompetence. SMH.

Can't wait for them to bring Patty back so he and Pop can wine it up on the road next year too.


K cap'n. Lay out what you would have done differently.


Not getting one of Okongwu, Hunter, or Griffin is a failure. I have seen elsewhere that Spurs opted for a future pick instead of Okongwu. That's dumb.


Okongwu hadn't shown a damn thing.
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 10:59p, 6/29/22
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FTAG 2000 said:
superunknown said:
FTAG 2000 said:
Spurs front office didn't learn anything from the Nephew fiasco, or watching the Jrue trade go down.

Just more incompetence. SMH.

Can't wait for them to bring Patty back so he and Pop can wine it up on the road next year too.


K cap'n. Lay out what you would have done differently.


Not getting one of Okongwu, Hunter, or Griffin is a failure. I have seen elsewhere that Spurs opted for a future pick instead of Okongwu. That's dumb.


You'd rather have another role player than an extra unprotected pick?
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In reply to West Texan • 11:21p, 6/29/22
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West Texan said:
FTAG 2000 said:
superunknown said:
FTAG 2000 said:
Spurs front office didn't learn anything from the Nephew fiasco, or watching the Jrue trade go down.

Just more incompetence. SMH.

Can't wait for them to bring Patty back so he and Pop can wine it up on the road next year too.


K cap'n. Lay out what you would have done differently.


Not getting one of Okongwu, Hunter, or Griffin is a failure. I have seen elsewhere that Spurs opted for a future pick instead of Okongwu. That's dumb.


You'd rather have another role player than an extra unprotected pick?
First, I think with more time Okongwu will put up great stats.

Second, how many of you have looked at the performance of this front office in the first round of the draft in the last five years? More specifically, compared to the Hawks who would you rather have this point?

Whose to say our guys wouldn't mess it up in the future with those picks?




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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 11:43p, 6/29/22
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FTAG 2000 said:
West Texan said:
FTAG 2000 said:
superunknown said:
FTAG 2000 said:
Spurs front office didn't learn anything from the Nephew fiasco, or watching the Jrue trade go down.

Just more incompetence. SMH.

Can't wait for them to bring Patty back so he and Pop can wine it up on the road next year too.


K cap'n. Lay out what you would have done differently.


Not getting one of Okongwu, Hunter, or Griffin is a failure. I have seen elsewhere that Spurs opted for a future pick instead of Okongwu. That's dumb.


You'd rather have another role player than an extra unprotected pick?
First, I think with more time Okongwu will put up great stats.

Second, how many of you have looked at the performance of this front office in the first round of the draft in the last five years? More specifically, compared to the Hawks who would you rather have this point?

Whose to say our guys wouldn't mess it up in the future with those picks?






The Spurs first round picks have been pretty exceptional. White and Murray were very late picks. Johnson was in the late 20s. Vassell and Primo were in the teens and look very promising. The only true miss was Samenic. One miss in 5 years is pretty good..
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 12:07a, 6/30/22
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FTAG 2000 said:
West Texan said:
FTAG 2000 said:
superunknown said:
FTAG 2000 said:
Spurs front office didn't learn anything from the Nephew fiasco, or watching the Jrue trade go down.

Just more incompetence. SMH.

Can't wait for them to bring Patty back so he and Pop can wine it up on the road next year too.


K cap'n. Lay out what you would have done differently.


Not getting one of Okongwu, Hunter, or Griffin is a failure. I have seen elsewhere that Spurs opted for a future pick instead of Okongwu. That's dumb.


You'd rather have another role player than an extra unprotected pick?
First, I think with more time Okongwu will put up great stats.

Second, how many of you have looked at the performance of this front office in the first round of the draft in the last five years? More specifically, compared to the Hawks who would you rather have this point?

Whose to say our guys wouldn't mess it up in the future with those picks?






Our last two trades were of two guys we drafted at #29 each and we received in return two possible rotational players, two first round pick swaps, and 4 first round picks. I'd say our team does pretty solid
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 5:19a, 6/30/22
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FTAG 2000 said:
West Texan said:
FTAG 2000 said:
superunknown said:
FTAG 2000 said:
Spurs front office didn't learn anything from the Nephew fiasco, or watching the Jrue trade go down.

Just more incompetence. SMH.

Can't wait for them to bring Patty back so he and Pop can wine it up on the road next year too.


K cap'n. Lay out what you would have done differently.


Not getting one of Okongwu, Hunter, or Griffin is a failure. I have seen elsewhere that Spurs opted for a future pick instead of Okongwu. That's dumb.


You'd rather have another role player than an extra unprotected pick?
First, I think with more time Okongwu will put up great stats.

Second, how many of you have looked at the performance of this front office in the first round of the draft in the last five years? More specifically, compared to the Hawks who would you rather have this point?

Whose to say our guys wouldn't mess it up in the future with those picks?






What has been the average draft position of Atlanta compared to San Antonio?
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6:39a, 6/30/22
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Let's skip all of the formalities and just give us the 2nd rounder now.
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In reply to Enzo The Baker • 8:39a, 6/30/22
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Let's skip all of the formalities and just give us the 2nd rounder now.
i fully believe that the spurs never keep that pick for just that reason. it will get used in another deal at some point.

related question: if a team has multiple firsts in a given year, can the team specify which pick they are swapping in a "pick swap" deal, or does it have to be their own (vs swapping Charlotte or Chicago's pick they now own)?
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In reply to HummingbirdSaltalamacchia • 8:42a, 6/30/22
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HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:
Enzo The Baker said:
Let's skip all of the formalities and just give us the 2nd rounder now.
i fully believe that the spurs never keep that pick for just that reason. it will get used in another deal at some point.

related question: if a team has multiple firsts in a given year, can the team specify which pick they are swapping in a "pick swap" deal, or does it have to be their own (vs swapping Charlotte or Chicago's pick they now own)?


They get to designate which pick as part of a trade.
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 8:45a, 6/30/22
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FTAG 2000 said:
HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:
Enzo The Baker said:
Let's skip all of the formalities and just give us the 2nd rounder now.
i fully believe that the spurs never keep that pick for just that reason. it will get used in another deal at some point.

related question: if a team has multiple firsts in a given year, can the team specify which pick they are swapping in a "pick swap" deal, or does it have to be their own (vs swapping Charlotte or Chicago's pick they now own)?


They get to designate which pick as part of a trade.
ok, so using this past draft as an example, the Spurs would have had to previously specify (when the trade was agreed to) that they were swapping #20 or #25. correct?
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9:08a, 6/30/22
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Brett Brown coming back.
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In reply to HummingbirdSaltalamacchia • 9:32a, 6/30/22
HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:
FTAG 2000 said:
HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:
Enzo The Baker said:
Let's skip all of the formalities and just give us the 2nd rounder now.
i fully believe that the spurs never keep that pick for just that reason. it will get used in another deal at some point.

related question: if a team has multiple firsts in a given year, can the team specify which pick they are swapping in a "pick swap" deal, or does it have to be their own (vs swapping Charlotte or Chicago's pick they now own)?


They get to designate which pick as part of a trade.
ok, so using this past draft as an example, the Spurs would have had to previously specify (when the trade was agreed to) that they were swapping #20 or #25. correct?


Correct, it's not a random draw.
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10:05a, 6/30/22
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The Miles Bridges news is interesting. Especially since we have CHA lotto protected pick and this news might catapult them into the lottery now if he isn't re-signed/playing. I wonder if the Spurs will want to re-negotiate the 2023 pick. We may have not heard the last from this trade and the final details seeing as it wont be finalized until July 6 it appears.
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In reply to Sher Thing • 10:17a, 6/30/22
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Yea that's true. But right now it's looking like the Atlanta swap in 2026 might be more valuable than the Charlotte pick. Gotta hope they can make the playoffs in 24 or 25.
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In reply to Sher Thing • 10:44a, 6/30/22
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The Miles Bridges news is interesting. Especially since we have CHA lotto protected pick and this news might catapult them into the lottery now if he isn't re-signed/playing. I wonder if the Spurs will want to re-negotiate the 2023 pick. We may have not heard the last from this trade and the final details seeing as it wont be finalized until July 6 it appears.


Counter to that is that it may keep teams from bidding him up and Charlotte keeps him on the cheap. Then he plays most of the year.

I think Darren Collision has the longest NBA suspension for domestic violence: 8 games in 2016.
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In reply to West Texan • 12:46p, 6/30/22
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In reply to Iowaggie • 1:54p, 6/30/22
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To make the trade work, Spurs have to up his guarantee to $11mm from $5.

If a third team is found in time, they could take Galli or Spurs could get something else.
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Landale added to the deal.
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Landale added to the deal.


I'm actually unhappy about this. I liked some of the minutes Landale gave us.
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3:09p, 6/30/22
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Spurs will deal Poeltl next. His value is at an all-time high. Need to get another 1st for him.

Maybe sign a developing big like Jalen Smith or Isaiah Hartenstein to give some C minutes with Collins.
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Also, If I'm the Spurs I'm probably on the phone with Charlotte trying to take on that ridiculous Gordon Hayward contract off their hands for a couple 1st rounders.

Knicks probably want to unload some bad money with Fournier also which is another option for some additional draft capital.
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In reply to Sher Thing • 4:01p, 6/30/22
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Spurs will deal Poeltl next. His value is at an all-time high. Need to get another 1st for him.

Maybe sign a developing big like Jalen Smith or Isaiah Hartenstein to give some C minutes with Collins.


Part of me thinks there's some real value in keeping Poeltl. We aren't getting anything more than a 1st for him on an expiring and have no one to bring up with any promise at his position. Full burn to the ground and we should do it but I can see the Spurs keeping him unless they get some ridiculous offer.
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4:03p, 6/30/22
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Shams reporting that KD is requesting a trade from BKN. Brian "The" Wright "Stuff" out here with all these stockpiled draft picks and 4 young pups under 19 on the roster and a ton of cap room...

Also KD prefers the Suns so perhaps a S&T with Ayton as the centerpiece heading east is probably what's gonna happen.
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In reply to superunknown • 4:27p, 6/30/22
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I love KD but I'm not sure we are even a contender with him on board. Definitely better off holding our picks.
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4:34p, 6/30/22
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So the Spurs threw in Landale in the Hawks deal today so they could close it and don't have to wait until the 8th and then just pulled the qualifying offer from Lonnie. These are moves made to open up cap room. Seems they might have something up their sleeves tonight once FA opens in 30 minutes.
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I bet they try to extend Peoltl and they will definitely go ahead and offer Keldon an extension.

Despite the prevailing "wisdom" out there... I doubt the Spurs want to go full burn down. Peoltl with some years left on a deal is actually more valuable asset anyway.
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In reply to Enzo The Baker • 4:45p, 6/30/22
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Agree.

Also can I just say how much I love the NBA off-season for its potential to go petty at the drop of a dime?


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In reply to Ag Natural • 4:45p, 6/30/22
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Agree that this is most likely.

Edit: might also work some deals to gather more draft assets as well.
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Primo is younger than all top 10 draft picks this year.
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They could extend Keldon without rushing the ATL trade or pulling the QO from Lonnie. These are moves made to create immediate cap room. For what reason, I'm not sure yet.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 5:09p, 6/30/22
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Primo is younger than all top 10 draft picks this year.
Crazy right. Jones and Johnson are 22. Vassell is 21. Primo and the 3 rooks are 19.

There was a funny interview Michelle Beadle did with the draft picks. Wesley is the only one with a drivers license and he just got his. Sochan and Bonham are just now starting the process. Oh and Primo just recently got his. Apparently big time basketball players don't have time to learn to drive anymore.
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