Stein confirmed he is hearing DJ/Collins are happening.
Edit: Conversations are happening*
Edit: Conversations are happening*
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Enzo The Baker said:
Stein confirmed he is hearing DJ/Collins are happening.
Reports could come from anywhere. It doesn't mean anything is happening or that the Spurs are all that interested in making a move.
Regardless of all that, the price for DJ should be extraordinarily high right now. I can't even think of an Atlanta package that makes sense.
I think it would have to involve a 3rd team with another one of their assets to get us another 1st rounder.
Spurs would be best suited to move guys like Murray for future picks / assets and go Winless for Wembanyama next draft.
I agree. We would also get more for him now than when we would on his expiring.
Makes more sense to rebuild. Unless we can get KD.
Makes more sense to rebuild. Unless we can get KD.
Good point too. His value will never be higher
Appears to be picking up more traction. More specifics in the proposed trade. No Collins. These better be some good picks.
In talking with multiple sources around the NBA, many believe Hawks on verge of trading for San Antonio's All-Star guard Dejounte Murray - However, it's looking like John Collins is not part of deal. Would be Gallo & multiple 1st round picks. Spurs prepping for future & '23 draft
— Zach Klein (@ZachKleinWSB) June 27, 2022
You beat me to it. I wonder what our plan at PG will be if we do trade Dejounte? I like Tre Jones, but he's not a starting caliber PG. do we take a flyer on a guy like Collin Sexton in free agency?
Word is the front office thinks Primo is special. It's going to be his year of being thrown into the fire. It will get him good experience and build chemistry with our young guys and teenagers while FINALLY getting out of the middle of the pack and getting a good draft pick.
I also bet we use cap space to absorb contracts and acquire even more draft assets. And try to flip those contracts for more assets throughout the year. Doesn't make sense getting guys in FA.
I also bet we use cap space to absorb contracts and acquire even more draft assets. And try to flip those contracts for more assets throughout the year. Doesn't make sense getting guys in FA.
Enzo The Baker said:
Word is the front office thinks Primo is special. It's going to be his year of being thrown into the fire. It will get him good experience and build chemistry with our young guys and teenagers while FINALLY getting out of the middle of the pack and getting a good draft pick.
I also bet we use cap space to absorb contracts and acquire even more draft assets. And try to flip those contracts for more assets throughout the year. Doesn't make sense getting guys in FA.
I'd love to have a legit shot at drafting Victor Wembanyama next year.
Unsure how substantial the most recent report is, but the reason the Spurs would take back Gallinari from the Hawks is to get more draft capital. They can just waive him before his partial guarantee fully guarantees. Makes less sense to get less back for a win now John Collins
— Collin Reid (@CollinReidPS) June 27, 2022
West Texan said:
You beat me to it. I wonder what our plan at PG will be if we do trade Dejounte? I like Tre Jones, but he's not a starting caliber PG. do we take a flyer on a guy like Collin Sexton in free agency?
You let Primo and Wesley "learn" while:
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Spurs would be best suited to move guys like Murray for future picks / assets and go Winless for Wembanyama next draft.
Also seems that if you trade Dejounte, then it makes sense to go ahead on trade Jakob as well.
By the way, supposedly the Knicks offered multiple future first rounders.
Way better than the supposed Hawks deal.
Only way it makes sense is if Collins would be going to some team who would be sending us a first that is highly likely to be a top 10 pick.
Way better than the supposed Hawks deal.
Only way it makes sense is if Collins would be going to some team who would be sending us a first that is highly likely to be a top 10 pick.
I realize a modern rebuild is get rid of all of your all star but not super star type players, but count me as a Spurs fan that truly hates this.
DJ is our longest tenured Spur and has done nothing but fully embrace this team, the culture, and improving every year. We aren't even guaranteed we get a top pick the new lotto system.
Yeah yeah, I know tanking is technically the right answer, but I seriously don't like this. Second the notion that if we're trading DJ, you should just trade Poeltl.
DJ is our longest tenured Spur and has done nothing but fully embrace this team, the culture, and improving every year. We aren't even guaranteed we get a top pick the new lotto system.
Yeah yeah, I know tanking is technically the right answer, but I seriously don't like this. Second the notion that if we're trading DJ, you should just trade Poeltl.
FTAG 2000 said:
By the way, supposedly the Knicks offered multiple future first rounders.
Way better than the supposed Hawks deal.
Only way it makes sense is if Collins would be going to some team who would be sending us a first that is highly likely to be a top 10 pick.
Not if they're the ones they just got. Most are HEAVILY lotto protected.
If we don't walk away with unprotected firsts, this whole thing was pointless.
What can you get for Jakob? Zack Collins fully guaranteed next year means he'll start at C.
For what it's worth yes I love DJ but he's 26 and UFA in 2 years. Are we where PATFO thinks we need to be to contend before needing to lock DJ up to a max? The FA class this year...I don't think there's a max guy there worth pursuing this off season and it's not to say there are no good ones this year. I'm just saying THIS year's top FAs + current Spurs (counting DJ) still have a 50 win ceiling to me.
For what it's worth yes I love DJ but he's 26 and UFA in 2 years. Are we where PATFO thinks we need to be to contend before needing to lock DJ up to a max? The FA class this year...I don't think there's a max guy there worth pursuing this off season and it's not to say there are no good ones this year. I'm just saying THIS year's top FAs + current Spurs (counting DJ) still have a 50 win ceiling to me.
superunknown said:
What can you get for Jakob? Zack Collins fully guaranteed next year means he'll start at C.
For what it's worth yes I love DJ but he's 26 and UFA in 2 years. Are we where PATFO thinks we need to be to contend before needing to lock DJ up to a max? The FA class this year...I don't think there's a max guy there worth pursuing this off season and it's not to say there are no good ones this year. I'm just saying THIS year's top FAs + current Spurs (counting DJ) still have a 50 win ceiling to me.
I think before the draft you could have gotten two firsts for Jakob. I think we would only get one first for him now.
Edit: especially because it's an expiring. The downside would be that only contenders would really be interested.
By the way, either next year or the year after that HS kids will be eligible again.
Spurs should position themselves for as many draft assets in that draft as possible.
Spurs should position themselves for as many draft assets in that draft as possible.
Yall realize any "report" coming out is definitely not from the Spurs side.
I've been thinking for a while that Primo is a future PG. But trading DJ would be a pretty big statement.
I've been thinking for a while that Primo is a future PG. But trading DJ would be a pretty big statement.
Been a pretty quiet day so far for trade rumors, but here's the summer league roster.
The Spurs have released their 2022 Summer League roster: https://t.co/Mvx2h7GzMO
— Project Spurs (@projectspurs) June 28, 2022
Lot of players worth watching. Excited for it.
Regarding DJ more stuff has come out today about current Minnesota interest and Miami interest in the last few weeks.
Two biggest rumors right now seem to be Knicks or Wizards.
Wizards deal supposedly is 3 FRPs, Deni Avdijua, and Rui Hachimura for Murray. Spurs may want Johnny Davis rather than Deni or Rui.
Give Washington a starting 5 of:
Kristaps
Kuz
KCP
Beal
Murray
Knicks:
Reddish/Quickley/Toppin +3 picks for Murray.
Gives Knicks a starting lineup of:
Robinson
Randle
Fournier
Barrett
Murray
A fan spitballing:
Kings get John Collins
Spurs get Keegan Murray + picks
Hawks get Dejounte Murray
Wizards deal supposedly is 3 FRPs, Deni Avdijua, and Rui Hachimura for Murray. Spurs may want Johnny Davis rather than Deni or Rui.
Give Washington a starting 5 of:
Kristaps
Kuz
KCP
Beal
Murray
Knicks:
Reddish/Quickley/Toppin +3 picks for Murray.
Gives Knicks a starting lineup of:
Robinson
Randle
Fournier
Barrett
Murray
A fan spitballing:
Kings get John Collins
Spurs get Keegan Murray + picks
Hawks get Dejounte Murray
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Guitarsoup said:
Two biggest rumors right now seem to be Knicks or Wizards.
Wizards deal supposedly is 3 FRPs, Deni Avdijua, and Rui Hachimura for Murray. Spurs may want Johnny Davis rather than Deni or Rui.
Give Washington a starting 5 of:
Kristaps
Kuz
KCP
Beal
Murray
Knicks:
Reddish/Quickley/Toppin +3 picks for Murray.
Gives Knicks a starting lineup of:
Robinson
Randle
Fournier
Barrett
Murray
A fan spitballing:
Kings get John Collins
Spurs get Keegan Murray + picks
Hawks get Dejounte Murray
Jesus. I at first was reluctant to trade a 25 yr old all star, but if you can get that type of return, multiple 1st (provided light or no protections) and multiple young players?? I'm sorry DJ, you were a good Spur
If we keep DJ I want to go after Ayton. If we trade him, we need to build draft capital. No middle ground.
Is Dj the Knicks fallback plan if they can't get Jalen Brunson?
Pretty sure Brunson would be the backup option to Murray.superunknown said:
Is Dj the Knicks fallback plan if they can't get Jalen Brunson?
Guitarsoup said:Pretty sure Brunson would be the backup option to Murray.superunknown said:
Is Dj the Knicks fallback plan if they can't get Jalen Brunson?
Well they wouldn't have to give up any assets to sign Brunson.
They are for sure clearing up space for Brunson. Man that is not a max guy and that is why the Knicks are the Knicks.
Those crazy Knicks are gonna do both somehow.
Enzo The Baker said:
They are for sure clearing up space for Brunson. Man that is not a max guy and that is why the Knicks are the Knicks.
It's actually pretty embarrassing. Brunson is a good player but he's not a guy you build around.
Great point by Collin, the Pistons' max cap space potential drops to $21.3 million.
— Paul Garcia (@PaulGarciaNBA) June 29, 2022
Looks like the Spurs are now the lone team that can offer Ayton a max offer sheet if they want to try to sign him. https://t.co/KbhfgfAIQX
I dont see Ayton as a max player. But it wouldn't be a terrible move to sign him to a near max offer sheet. Phoenix will either have to match or let him go. Then the Spurs would have nice asset to play with.
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