I've been telling you fellow Gunners that Arteta is not the answer. Not only is that true, but he is worse than I thought.

AggieRob93 said:

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I've been telling you fellow Gunners that Arteta is not the answer. Not only is that true, but he is worse than I thought.

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I don't disagree butI also don't think firing and hiring someone else isn't going to solve this problem. That's not me defending Arteta, that's me saying we've not got the quality on the field to be better.

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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AggieRob93 said:

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I've been telling you fellow Gunners that Arteta is not the answer. Not only is that true, but he is worse than I thought.

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I don't disagree butI also don't think firing and hiring someone else isn't going to solve this problem. That's not me defending Arteta, that's me saying we've not got the quality on the field to be better.

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I don't like the fire/hire/fire process either, but is Brentford really a better batch of players, or a better touchline manager?

AggieRob93 said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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AggieRob93 said:

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I've been telling you fellow Gunners that Arteta is not the answer. Not only is that true, but he is worse than I thought.

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I don't disagree butI also don't think firing and hiring someone else isn't going to solve this problem. That's not me defending Arteta, that's me saying we've not got the quality on the field to be better.

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I don't like the fire/hire/fire process either, but is Brentford really a better batch of players, or a better touchline manager?

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I think we're both correct.

We should have thrown on Joe Willock. Oh wait.

Hello darkness, my old friend. Well done Brentford. Same crap from Arsenal.

OneBlitzer said:

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Hello darkness, my old friend. Well done Brentford. Same crap from Arsenal.

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Look, we're helping create memorable and timeless memories...what more can you ask for?

This is simply all the karma being paid out for the way Arsene was treated in his last few years

At least Sambi and ESR looked up for it. Shame that only our two youngest players really looked decent.

White looked like a disaster of a signing today. He got bullied by Brentford and won least than 50% of his challenges. Part of that is partnership and Mari was worse. Chambers looked terribly slow and there was none of the overlapping he did last year. Leno is looking worse and worse. KT looked ok, but liked mentioned earlier, his crosses were all way too high.

Martinelli was missing and couldn't find the ball, but we failed to play through the middle. Balogun was ok for a PL debut, but just not quite there physically. Pepe went back to being the black hole of possession and then losing the ball.

Hopefully when Partey and Gabriel are back things will look a little more solid around the back.

I said it when we fired Wenger that replacing him was going to be a massive headache and we were going to have several rough years of rotating managers like Manchester United has had. Unfortunately, we don't have the same financial backing to make bad expensive signings or completely revamp the team every time for a new manager. Arteta clearly isn't working and I think you can start to see the breaks in the locker room with him losing the faith of the players. I don't know who you can convince to try and turn this around. Conte is sitting at home on his ass, but he'd probably laugh and hang up the phone.

Tammy Abraham has accepted to join AS Roma, done deal! The agreement has been reached with the English striker as per @DiMarzio. 🔴 #ASRoma #CFC

Chelsea will receive €40m on permanent deal paid in installments. Abraham will sign his contract after medicals in the next days.

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) August 14, 2021

Odegaard isn't starting for RM.

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Odegaard isn't starting for RM.

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I feel like it's been made abundantly clear by now that they don't want. Bring him home

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Odegaard isn't starting for RM.

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He cant, currently not registered to play for them in La Liga play.

Rumors out of Spain that Koeman wants a new ST (Aguero out for a month and Braithwaite not good enough) and PEA & Laca are top of his list. Since money is tight they would need to handle any deal via swap.

Assuming it is true, im guessing we will have interest in Neto and Barca will push Coutinho or Dembele.

Or Lenglet, Umtiti, Pjanic, and maybe one or two others they are trying to get rid of.

We have a need for Neto, so I can see that being a potential fit. None of the other names move the needle in the positive direction for me for various reasons.

To make it worse, Spurs beat City

gougler08 said:

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To make it worse, Spurs beat City

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Their speed on the counter is amazing to watch. They win the ball and have it in the opposing box faster than we can get it out of our half of the field.

ptothemo said:

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Or Lenglet, Umtiti, Pjanic, and maybe one or two others they are trying to get rid of.

We have a need for Neto, so I can see that being a potential fit. None of the other names move the needle in the positive direction for me for various reasons.

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Hadnt heard they are shopping Lenglet. If we could move Mari I would be very interested in him.

Shopping might be a bit too strong, but I kept reading his name based on his contract, spot in the team, etc as someone that they could try to move. Some of that may be not be as true now that they got to where they could register their new boys.

Seeing lots of noise about Conte being the #1 target if Arteta falters. While he could be on the short list I assume his name is mostly popping up because he is currently unemployed. I assumed Arteta's leash was pretty long but given Conte's availability, I wonder if he could get cut sooner then expected if things don't go well to start the season?

Just for fun... Conte prefers a 3-1-4-2 so...

CB - Bring back Saliba and we would actually be in pretty good shape with he, Gabi & White as starters and Holding & Chambers as backups. Ship Mari off to a low to mid table Spanish and get a young CB to replace him or possible promote from within.

DM - Conte wanted Xhaka at Inter for a bit so he may be inclined to try him there. Don't imagine that experiment would last long. Lokonga or Partey could probably play here but not sure it would be ideal. Patino could be one for the future. Of the CMs we have been linked this window Locatelli, Berge or Zakaria would likely be the best options.

CM - Conte doesn't use a true AM or wing forwards so guys like ESR & Odegaard (assuming we sign him) would need to play a little deeper and play as more 8.5s instead of 10s. I think ESR could adjust as he already gets back to help on D. Odegaard could be strong offensively from a deeper spot but not sure about his defensive contribution. Outside of them, you have Partey, Lokonga & Azeez. Xhaka may be able to play in this spot but I honestly don't think it would be ideal.

WB - Tierney & Tavares on the left would be a lock. The right could be interesting. Saka likely becomes the starting RWB as I don't see any other role for him in this setup. AMN would be a good fit assuming he stays. Cedric could possibly function better in this role than at RB.

ST - Balogun should be fine. PEA may be better in this setup (assuming he is still here). Pepe could possibly play as ST given his penchant for cutting inside anyway. Laca could be retained since Conte expressed interest in him last summer (I think?).

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I can't see a guy who left the Serie A champs because he couldn't get the investment he wanted coming to a club where he has to sell assets nobody wants before he can buy anything

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Good point. To be fair though, Inter was looking at needing to take in atleast 100m more than they send out this window. We appear to be the opposite.

No idea who this guy is but FWIW...

🚨 Lacazette has been offered to Barcelona and there may be multiple swaps deals that can occur between both clubs as Bellerin also would like to return to his boyhood club.

Arsenal have requested Coutinho/Dembélé for Lacazette and Sergi Roberto/ Royal for Bellerin. #AFC

— John Collins (@JohnKnowsBall) August 16, 2021

And...

Granit Xhaka deal, completed and confirmed. Contract signed until June 2025 with increased salary after AS Roma talks collapsed weeks ago. 🔴 #AFC

Arsenal are also working to sign Ødegaard on permanent deal - waiting for ‘green light’ from Real Madrid to submit the official bid. https://t.co/g9INNwnNIt

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) August 16, 2021

And the Laca/Auba rumors to Barca are already gone.

Barcelona are currently not negotiating for Pierre Aubameyang from Arsenal as new striker. He’s not a target now, priority is to sell players. 🔴🔵 @mattemoretto #FCB #AFC

Still no bid or talks for Clement Lenglet. Umtiti (NO Benfica) and Pjanic situation to be clarified soon.

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) August 16, 2021

Arsenal are once again pushing to sign Aaron Ramsdale.

Talks have reopened and there is renewed confidence a deal can be done before end of the window.

Potential deal is likely to be £20m plus add-ons, with #SUFC keen to sell the GK this summer.https://t.co/8ZihFl65AC

— Chris Wheatley (@ChrisWheatley_) August 17, 2021

Arsenal & Sheffield United have indeed resumed talks about resurrecting a deal for Aaron Ramsdale.#SHU lowered demands. Negotiations are delicate, & outcome uncertain, but now some optimism an agreement may be reached.

Story from @TheAthleticUK ⬇️ #AFChttps://t.co/XwzHXtj4r7

— gunnerblog (@gunnerblog) August 17, 2021

Not surprised given their desire to shed salary. Wouldn't be surprised if they were interested in Laca assuming we took a higher salary player back. I would be open to such arrangement (though I do not want Coutinho) assuming we get something (Moribo?) as incentive.

Barcelona have no interest in Pierre Aubameyang, confirmed - he’s not even a target for Barça, no swap deal with Philippe Coutinho. 🚫🔴 #FCB #AFC https://t.co/ifRMlq7Pkk

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) August 17, 2021

I've read that Ramsdale is the one really pushing to get the fee lowered so he can go to Arsenal.