Ok reformate .. less than 10 % BZ … I remember the news here reporting it was a BZ barge, typical news reporting something more dangerousClavell said:
Probably this, but not benzene
https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/NR20210330.aspx
Ok reformate .. less than 10 % BZ … I remember the news here reporting it was a BZ barge, typical news reporting something more dangerousClavell said:
Probably this, but not benzene
https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/NR20210330.aspx
YouBet said:
So, what's the length of time before they get a new bridge up? Five years? Ten years?
Living in Baltimore already sucked balls because it's a leading US ****hole. And now triple or quadruple your commute on top of it.
That place is about to suck even harder and that's hard to do.
This guy saying they were completely dead in the water for some period of time. They got electrical power back at some point but it's unclear whether they ever restored the main propulsion or were able to back down as initially thought. Still would guess that it was fuel related or some major electrical problem that took out both generators at the same time.Quote:
Clay Diamond, the executive director of the American Pilots' Association, said the ship experienced a "full blackout" around 1:20 a.m., meaning it lost both engine power and electrical power to its control and communications systems.
YouBet said:
So, what's the length of time before they get a new bridge up? Five years? Ten years?
Living in Baltimore already sucked balls because it's a leading US ****hole. And now triple or quadruple your commute on top of it.
That place is about to suck even harder and that's hard to do.
HumpitPuryear said:YouBet said:
So, what's the length of time before they get a new bridge up? Five years? Ten years?
Living in Baltimore already sucked balls because it's a leading US ****hole. And now triple or quadruple your commute on top of it.
That place is about to suck even harder and that's hard to do.
895 and the harbor tunnel is going to have to pick up the regular commuter traffic but hazmat is banned from the tunnel. It's really going to impact any commercial traffic carrying anything considered hazardous. The tunnel is two lanes each direction so I would expect that to get backed up pretty solid during the rush hours
Logos Stick said:HumpitPuryear said:YouBet said:
So, what's the length of time before they get a new bridge up? Five years? Ten years?
Living in Baltimore already sucked balls because it's a leading US ****hole. And now triple or quadruple your commute on top of it.
That place is about to suck even harder and that's hard to do.
895 and the harbor tunnel is going to have to pick up the regular commuter traffic but hazmat is banned from the tunnel. It's really going to impact any commercial traffic carrying anything considered hazardous. The tunnel is two lanes each direction so I would expect that to get backed up pretty solid during the rush hours
Thanks. I read yesterday that most hazmat stuff goes over that bridge, wasn't sure why.
HumpitPuryear said:Logos Stick said:HumpitPuryear said:YouBet said:
So, what's the length of time before they get a new bridge up? Five years? Ten years?
Living in Baltimore already sucked balls because it's a leading US ****hole. And now triple or quadruple your commute on top of it.
That place is about to suck even harder and that's hard to do.
895 and the harbor tunnel is going to have to pick up the regular commuter traffic but hazmat is banned from the tunnel. It's really going to impact any commercial traffic carrying anything considered hazardous. The tunnel is two lanes each direction so I would expect that to get backed up pretty solid during the rush hours
Thanks. I read yesterday that most hazmat stuff goes over that bridge, wasn't sure why.
Yep I guess that traffic will have to go around the loop to the west of Baltimore which is a pretty long detour. That tunnel is also height restricted. There are height monitors on the approach and big warning signs that light up if anything too tall is sensed.
good luck having these guys stop that Singapore ship!!Pro Sandy said:
Cost benefit isn't there. Last time a bridge was hit was probably 20 years ago in Oklahoma? Plus you are reliant on humans making a quick decision constantly. Risk for failure is high.
Much better to build bridges with dolphins around the pilings. More expensive, but work 24/7 without pay. I doubt the Key bridge had any since it is almost 50 years old.
I doubt they could do it on a large scale taking lots of commuter vehicles across, but they might be able to set something up using military equipment for hazmat trucks and other oversized loads to keep from cluttering the other roads and the tunnel.bigjag19 said:HumpitPuryear said:Logos Stick said:HumpitPuryear said:YouBet said:
So, what's the length of time before they get a new bridge up? Five years? Ten years?
Living in Baltimore already sucked balls because it's a leading US ****hole. And now triple or quadruple your commute on top of it.
That place is about to suck even harder and that's hard to do.
895 and the harbor tunnel is going to have to pick up the regular commuter traffic but hazmat is banned from the tunnel. It's really going to impact any commercial traffic carrying anything considered hazardous. The tunnel is two lanes each direction so I would expect that to get backed up pretty solid during the rush hours
Thanks. I read yesterday that most hazmat stuff goes over that bridge, wasn't sure why.
Yep I guess that traffic will have to go around the loop to the west of Baltimore which is a pretty long detour. That tunnel is also height restricted. There are height monitors on the approach and big warning signs that light up if anything too tall is sensed.
Any chance a ferry could operate within say 6 months? Temp connecting roads and set up type thing?
LMCane said:good luck having these guys stop that Singapore ship!!Pro Sandy said:
Cost benefit isn't there. Last time a bridge was hit was probably 20 years ago in Oklahoma? Plus you are reliant on humans making a quick decision constantly. Risk for failure is high.
Much better to build bridges with dolphins around the pilings. More expensive, but work 24/7 without pay. I doubt the Key bridge had any since it is almost 50 years old.
BMW uses Sparrows Point that is situated outbound the Key Bridge...Quote:
Several large automakers said on Tuesday that they were working to reroute shipments of cars because of the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore.
The Port of Baltimore plays an important role in the shipment of vehicles and handled more than 750,000 cars and trucks in 2023, according to the Maryland Port Administration.
I have no ideal. I can't imagine the amount of red tape to start up something like that including what would be required to set up the ferry landing on both ends. Maybe they could relax some of the limits on hazmat going straight through Baltimore on I95. There's still the 695 west loop it's just a longer route.bigjag19 said:HumpitPuryear said:Logos Stick said:HumpitPuryear said:YouBet said:
So, what's the length of time before they get a new bridge up? Five years? Ten years?
Living in Baltimore already sucked balls because it's a leading US ****hole. And now triple or quadruple your commute on top of it.
That place is about to suck even harder and that's hard to do.
895 and the harbor tunnel is going to have to pick up the regular commuter traffic but hazmat is banned from the tunnel. It's really going to impact any commercial traffic carrying anything considered hazardous. The tunnel is two lanes each direction so I would expect that to get backed up pretty solid during the rush hours
Thanks. I read yesterday that most hazmat stuff goes over that bridge, wasn't sure why.
Yep I guess that traffic will have to go around the loop to the west of Baltimore which is a pretty long detour. That tunnel is also height restricted. There are height monitors on the approach and big warning signs that light up if anything too tall is sensed.
Any chance a ferry could operate within say 6 months? Temp connecting roads and set up type thing?
I don't think it's a choke point for the overall economy, but I do think it is for a lot of automobile imports, and there will be quite a bit of local economic downturn due to not being able to get goods in/out.Quote:
but is it a choke point for the nation's economy in general?
Auto and construction equipment.CDUB98 said:I don't think it's a choke point for the overall economy, but I do think it is for a lot of automobile imports, and there will be quite a bit of local economic downturn due to not being able to get goods in/out.Quote:
but is it a choke point for the nation's economy in general?
**** 'em. That area is the richest in the nation.CDUB98 said:I don't think it's a choke point for the overall economy, but I do think it is for a lot of automobile imports, and there will be quite a bit of local economic downturn due to not being able to get goods in/out.Quote:
but is it a choke point for the nation's economy in general?
CDUB98 said:I don't think it's a choke point for the overall economy, but I do think it is for a lot of automobile imports, and there will be quite a bit of local economic downturn due to not being able to get goods in/out.Quote:
but is it a choke point for the nation's economy in general?
Quote:
Shippers and logistics experts expect the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge to disrupt the flow of some industrial commodities and likely delay freight traffic for a time as companies redirect shipments. But the impact of the latest supply chain disruption will likely be limited as ocean carriers and importers divert trade to other ports while truckers drive around bottlenecked Baltimore.
The WSJ Logistics Report's Liz Young writes the most immediate impact looks to be on coal exports, a major commodity at a port that handles big volumes of bulk materials.
Baltimore is a key gateway for automotive and other vehicle shipments. But major automakers say their terminals are south of the site of the collapsed bridge and so they don't expect car carriers to be impeded.
Container importers will find alternate gateways from New York to Norfolk, Va., but nearby distribution centers will lose a key route.
🚨 BREAKING 🚨
— ᴊᴀᴄᴋ ᴅᴀɴɢᴇʀ (@AmericazOutlaw) March 27, 2024
Angela Chao, sister-in-law of Senator Mitch McConnell, who drowned in her vehicle 6 days ago, was the CEO of the shipping company that owned the massive cargo ship that hit the Key Bridge & caused its collapse just 24+ hours ago.
🛑Conspiracy?🛑
She is… pic.twitter.com/YEpkU853Oh
Thoughtfully glancing over at my global climate change tinfoil hat collection while reading this and the automobile import posts above...Stat Monitor Repairman said:
23% of all US coal exported through Baltimore.
45-70Ag said:🚨 BREAKING 🚨
— ᴊᴀᴄᴋ ᴅᴀɴɢᴇʀ (@AmericazOutlaw) March 27, 2024
Angela Chao, sister-in-law of Senator Mitch McConnell, who drowned in her vehicle 6 days ago, was the CEO of the shipping company that owned the massive cargo ship that hit the Key Bridge & caused its collapse just 24+ hours ago.
🛑Conspiracy?🛑
She is… pic.twitter.com/YEpkU853Oh
I believe that's right but it doesn't really even matter to whether that Twitter post deserves a second of attentionaggiehawg said:
I am confused. Chao was CEO of Foremost. I thought the ship was owned by another company?
Dammit, our cabinet is inhabited by MuppetsStat Monitor Repairman said:
stop posting garbage45-70Ag said:🚨 BREAKING 🚨
— ᴊᴀᴄᴋ ᴅᴀɴɢᴇʀ (@AmericazOutlaw) March 27, 2024
Angela Chao, sister-in-law of Senator Mitch McConnell, who drowned in her vehicle 6 days ago, was the CEO of the shipping company that owned the massive cargo ship that hit the Key Bridge & caused its collapse just 24+ hours ago.
🛑Conspiracy?🛑
She is… pic.twitter.com/YEpkU853Oh
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
23% of all US coal exported through Baltimore.
NO ****, SHERLOCK!!Stat Monitor Repairman said: