jt2hunt said:
How large of an insurance carrier do you have to be to underwrite coverage for a ship like this one? This has to be a very bad day for this insurance company.
They will be fine, I promise.
jt2hunt said:
How large of an insurance carrier do you have to be to underwrite coverage for a ship like this one? This has to be a very bad day for this insurance company.
You're right, the one in Mt Pleasant (SCPA Wando) isn't connected to rail. There aren't even any lines that are close.Sea Speed said:The Fife said:Wouldn't surprise me, a new terminal just opened up within the last year or so in Charleston / North Charleston.BassCowboy33 said:Logos Stick said:
This is interesting.As @JeffFisch notes, the collapse of the Key Bridge means that the Baltimore Port will be unusable for many months.
— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) March 26, 2024
It's the 13th most important US port for foreign trade
The economic impact on the city, which is already plagued by social misery and violent crime, will be huge pic.twitter.com/ZpPcb4Ombs
The guess is traffic gets diverted to Norfolk and Charleston.
I was talking to a Charleston pilot about the politics of Charleston container terminals and it is wild to me that they built the container terminal without rail access. I cant recall the bridge name but it is always jam packed with trucks. Going to significantly reduce the life of that bridge. Is it any better since they opened the one in North Charleston?
Informative video, thanks for posting.MAROON said:
MV Dali Hitting Key Bridge in Baltimore - Track and Video Analysis (youtube.com)
pretty good video and analysis
Usually Lloyds of London and their consortion have reinsurance upon reinsurance upon reinsurance. Limits the liabilities for each. Which means the primary pays out their policy limit, then the next in line pays out their policy limits and so on down the line, or there is a percentage agreed to between them so every insurer gets to take a bite out of the turd sandwich. Or at least that used to be how maritime policies were handled. There's almost always more than one insurer involved.jt2hunt said:
How large of an insurance carrier do you have to be to underwrite coverage for a ship like this one? This has to be a very bad day for this insurance company.
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
This fuel switching issue is a known risk.
Some experts have suggested that we were on the clock so far as a major incident attributable to fuel switching.
flakrat said:
Are US ports the only ports that require switching to ULSD?
Biden claims to have taken the TRAIN over the Francis Scott Key bridge!
— Brick Suit (@Brick_Suit) March 26, 2024
Says he has been over the bridge "many many times commuting from the state of Delaware either by train or by car."
The bridge had only four lanes of traffic and no rail lines. pic.twitter.com/sB6Odzsr7i
Ships are required to use lower sulphur fuel across the entire Mediterranean. Or at least will be next year or thereabouts.Sea Speed said:flakrat said:
Are US ports the only ports that require switching to ULSD?
Almost certain some euro ones as well but not 100%
He just has an obsession with having to personalize everything, even if he just pulls this crap out of his butt.Logos Stick said:
Paw says he took the train over the bridge many times:Biden claims to have taken the TRAIN over the Francis Scott Key bridge!
— Brick Suit (@Brick_Suit) March 26, 2024
Says he has been over the bridge "many many times commuting from the state of Delaware either by train or by car."
The bridge had only four lanes of traffic and no rail lines. pic.twitter.com/sB6Odzsr7i
FIFYTyHolden said:
Biden said thegovernmenttaxpayers would pay for it. 10% to the big guy.
It's barely been 12 hours since the accident. I don't see how you honestly believe you have all available knowledge to conclusively say what the cause is or isn't,Rapier108 said:Probably because there is zero evidence it was terrorism.annie88 said:
It may very well not be terrorism, and I hope it's not, but to make that statement so quickly, just hours later, seems ill-advised.
It's funny how the media these days tend to amplify certain things and downplay others, depending on the outcome they seemingly want.
For example, the color of mass shooters seems to have become a very big thing.This FBI agent who is discounting terrorism at the Baltimore bridge (very quickly, I might add) was named Special Agent in Charge of the Baltimore Field Office just YESTERDAY
— Jordan Sather (@Jordan_Sather_) March 26, 2024
Suspicious? https://t.co/7kBZm1oBJk
Not every bad event is a deliberate act. Accidents do happen, even really big ones.
Agreed, messing with the fuel system in any way is begging for trouble.Sea Speed said:All the chief engineers i talk to hate it. Go figure.Stat Monitor Repairman said:
This fuel switching issue is a known risk.
Some experts have suggested that we were on the clock so far as a major incident attributable to fuel switching.
Even if the special agent in charge had just taken the position, what the heck is "suspicious?"AgBandsman said:It's barely been 12 hours since the accident. I don't see how you honestly believe you have all available knowledge to conclusively say what the cause is or isn't,Rapier108 said:Probably because there is zero evidence it was terrorism.annie88 said:
It may very well not be terrorism, and I hope it's not, but to make that statement so quickly, just hours later, seems ill-advised.
It's funny how the media these days tend to amplify certain things and downplay others, depending on the outcome they seemingly want.
For example, the color of mass shooters seems to have become a very big thing.This FBI agent who is discounting terrorism at the Baltimore bridge (very quickly, I might add) was named Special Agent in Charge of the Baltimore Field Office just YESTERDAY
— Jordan Sather (@Jordan_Sather_) March 26, 2024
Suspicious? https://t.co/7kBZm1oBJk
Not every bad event is a deliberate act. Accidents do happen, even really big ones.
Even the NTSB takes months or years to write their accident reports.
They won't be.TexasRebel said:
Ugh. Switching fuel sources on a critical diesel engine is a disaster in itself.
Just a tiny bit of air and you're done. Even self-priming injectors are going to stumble.
If this was caused by ULSD regs, I hope the lawmakers are found liable for this one.
I just went down that rabbit hole. Harrowing to read the audio transcripts. I can't even imagine.Sea Speed said:
The El Faro report is heart wrenching
Quote:
Baltimore is going to be without a critical bridge for a long time.
Tampa's Skyway bridge took 7 years, but this will be done sooner, hopefully much sooner.
What needs to be done? Well, a lot.
Can the approach spans be salvaged?
Bridge design for vessel collision. A🧵
— Matt Dursh (@MattDursh) March 26, 2024
The main span of the Francois Scott Key Bridge is 1300 ft. It also has 185 ft of clearance, making this a massive bridge.
This type of bridge is considered complex.
Baltimore is in for a long haul before replacement. Here is why.
1/x pic.twitter.com/OtHbqGftBF
it was my post about the pressure between crews/owners/etc and delays to maintenance, right? That post got disappeared. Think it got caught up in a slew of pointlessly political posts that got disappeared as well. Sorry man.Sea Speed said:
So weird, I had a long reply to ThunderCougarFalconBird asking me a question and when I hit reply it said the content was unavailable to me. Sucks because it was a pretty long one.
fc2112 said:
Curious how they were able to "stop traffic" going onto the bridge. There are no automated barricades or gates at the entrance at either end.
There are electronic message boards. Maybe they just put up STOP.
It is a toll bridge but I don't remember there being classic toll booths on it.TexasRebel said:Toll bridge.fc2112 said:
Curious how they were able to "stop traffic" going onto the bridge. There are no automated barricades or gates at the entrance at either end.
There are electronic message boards. Maybe they just put up STOP.
BassCowboy33 said:YouBet said:BassCowboy33 said:Not uncommon. Depending on tides and draft, sometimes ships pass under bridges with surprisingly little clearance.bonfarr said:
To my untrained eyes that bridge appears low for the volume of the port. A guy interviewed on the radio said he was on a cruise ship passing under the Key Bridge and it had to take on water to clear it. Is that unusual or is that something that has to be done in a lot of ports where entry/exit is spanned by a bridge?
Plus, cruise ships have ENORMOUS sail area. So, they'd definitely need to flood the ballast tanks.
A lot of these bridges were built in eras of smaller ships. I believe Corpus built an entirely new bridge a decade or so back so it's terminal could handle larger ships.
Um, yeah, it's still being built. They had to pause for a year or so because the builder f'ed up and they had to huddle for a while to figure out how to course correct and make it safe.
For those who have never seen it, it's massive. It has to be one of the biggest bridges being built in the US if not the biggest. Granted, there aren't always massive projects like this going on, but still, it's huge.
For Corpus, it's an economic investment. There is fierce competition between them, Houston, and Brownsville. You limit the size of the vessel able to enter, youll fall behind and get left behind.