Yeah, it's interesting. The act of pruning is basically creating partitions in the timelines/universes.

In my head I've decided that the different Lokis make sense because the TVA isn't watching the events of the timeline, only the results of the events of the timeline. It doesn't matter if Loki is a woman, or black, or if everyone on earth are talking turtles, etc., as long as whatever the TVA (or whoever is running it) wants to happen, happens. When that event, whatever it is, is in jeopardy, that's when they step in and hit the reset button.

if you go back to the second episode and watch them set off the charge at the renfest, you can see that it only deletes things that are different from the sacred timeline. The grass is left behind. I believe they mentioned at one point that essentially the divergences are removed, and it more or less coalesces back into the main timeline. If you let it get to the red line, then the differences are too great to fix.

Enjoyed episode 4 much more than episode 3, but episode 4 also explains why Sylvie has much less charisma than Loki does. Episode 4 is the first episode that makes me feel like I immediately need to jump back in, but I don't have the time.

I had a feeling that when people were purged it wasn't death, but something else. There's been a lot of religious overtones to this show, lots of open debate about free will vs. fate. Perhaps when people are purged they are sent to a purgatory of sorts, neither heaven, nor hell, an in between. This would make sense because would an omnipotent being in control of time allow the TVA to permanently dispose of variants that obviously have some sort of role to play? Especially when it's revealed all of the TVA is populated by variants whose minds have been wiped clean.

As it's been speculated, I doubt there's 3 time keepers involved, there's one being at the top, likely Kang. They focus too much on the center face, and it's distinctly human in it's features. We might not see behind the curtain in the last two episodes, but it's gotta get close.

I'm not 100% sure that getting zapped doesn't kill most people/disintegrate most things. There may be something unique about Lokis as to why they don't die.

If we're assuming that Mobius is alive, perhaps Loki finds another version of him on the timeline.

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An ass-cart? Gross.

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cart full of asses or ass shaped cart?

I thought Mobius was dead for sure with his zapping, but Loki being zapped opens the door back up. Unless, of course, the place where Loki woke up was Helheim or some kind of Asgardian-specific afterlife that he'd be eligible for but all the other zapped variants would not.

IIRC it looked kind of foggy or misty, made me think of Niflheim or wherever from God of War. Wiki says that sometimes that's used interchangeably with Helheim. Could be the place of the dead who aren't honored enough to go to Valhalla.

One thing that I don't think has been discussed here was the nexus event that saved Loki and Sylvie. 1) Normally those don't happen during an apocalypse, and 2) it only happened when they touched and looked into each others eyes. Is Kang somehow their descendant...?

I think the nexus event at the apocalypse was an indication they were going to survive somehow maybe?

Or maybe the TVA showing up actually helped create the nexus event. shrug.emoji

Either way, the two of them teaming up and finding out the time keepers are puppets is an event of the highest magnitude to the survival of the TVA

Yeah they're going to have to explain what happened there. The TVA itself showing up can't create a nexus event or the whole operation doesn't make sense.

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Yeah they're going to have to explain what happened there. The TVA itself showing up can't create a nexus event or the whole operation doesn't make sense.

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Interesting thought exercise. Why wouldn't the TVA create nexus events? They erase realities with variants after taking the variant. That is what wipes away the nexus event and timeline. If it was known that the Loki's would later escape from the TVA, that scenario may have come from the nexus event?

Other than that, then falling in love must have resulted in them surviving that apocalypse. That would need to be explained because it is not obvious how their feelings would matter if they were extinguished 5 minutes later.

So just for the sake of clarity, we're not saying TVA folks couldn't create nexus events, just that their responding to a time branch can't itself be the nexus event they're responding to.

They monitor the timeline for time branches, when they see one they go into them and erase them, so for them to see the time branch, by definition, the nexus event they're responding to has to have already happened.

That has to be the case, otherwise the whole thing makes no sense. (It already only tenuously makes sense anyway.)

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One thing that I don't think has been discussed here was the nexus event that saved Loki and Sylvie. 1) Normally those don't happen during an apocalypse, and 2) it only happened when they touched and looked into each others eyes. Is Kang somehow their descendant...?

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Loki is destined to be alone, and to be evil, and to bring out the best in others (avengers, asgardians, etc).

Loki falling in love, created a nexus spike that was vertical instead of angled, b/c he deviated away from his destiny in every timeline he's ever existed in. Mobius flat out asks him later that he needs to know right now what loki feels/wants, b/c it is the key to everything.

That key is free will.

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Maybe when two Lokis kiss it connects the powers of all Lokis across the universe into some kind of MegaLoki.

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You are overthinking this.

Clearly, the TVA is against self-incest. Not even Disney would go that far. Probably...

TexasAggie_02 said:

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also, what happened to Sylvie bombing the sacred timeline? did they get that all cleaned up offscreen? b/c when they are looking for them in ep 4, the timeline looked all nice and straight until they caused that new nexus event

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That's a really good point. They just cleaned up this huge mess offscreen with basically no issues? Apparently it was all just a diversion to let in Sylvie but it looked pretty bad.

Or the sacred timeline just isn't that important and they'll explain it later that Renslayer just typed a few keys and hey look at that everything's good now!

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Maybe when two Lokis kiss it connects the powers of all Lokis across the universe into some kind of MegaLoki.

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Byong Sun Loki

YouBet said:

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bobinator said:

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Maybe when two Lokis kiss it connects the powers of all Lokis across the universe into some kind of MegaLoki.

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You are overthinking this.

Clearly, the TVA is against self-incest. Not even Disney would go that far. Probably...

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But is it really "self-incest" if they aren't actually the same person, just Lokis from different timelines/universes?

Add to that Loki (all of them presumably) is a narcissist, so.......