*** THE MATRIX 4 ***

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MBAR said:

Do people really think Reloaded is bad? For me its not as good as the first, but its still a hell of a great action movie with some of the best action scenes of all time. The highway scene is one of the best scenes in any action movie ever, IMO.
Reloaded is just a bunch of kicking. The action scenes don't have any worth behind them and most don't have conclusions that move the plot forward.

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helloimustbegoing said:

MBAR said:

Do people really think Reloaded is bad? For me its not as good as the first, but its still a hell of a great action movie with some of the best action scenes of all time. The highway scene is one of the best scenes in any action movie ever, IMO.
Reloaded is just a bunch of kicking. The action scenes don't have any worth behind them and most don't have conclusions that move the plot forward.




I agree that most of the fights in Reloaded are so-so/don't really move the plot forward. But I also agree that the entire highway sequence, including the Morpheus fight atop the semi, is just flat out incredible, and one of the best action sequences of all time. That, and I know the Architect gets ragged on - hilariously so, by Will Ferrell - but it's such a brilliant twist, IMO, and unconventional ending, that I can't help but respect if not love it. Overall, I'd say the first half of Reloaded is pretty average, but the second half, starting with the Merovingian intro, is some of the best action/sci-fi I've ever seen.
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Nope. Midnight PST.
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Watching right now...

Remind me, please. Why isn't Larry Fishburne isn't in this movie?
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Ha, you tell us. It was apparently for plot reasons, and you're the first one diving in...

(In all seriousness, please use the spoiler thread if you do have an answer).
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Finally seeing it tonight.

Half the reviews say it's the best movie of the year. The other half say it's too meta, too cheesy, and just plain bad.

So curious to see where I land.
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I'm glad I watched on Max. Fell asleep and stopped the movie with 10 minutes left.
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GCRanger said:

I was really excited for this after the first trailer. Not so much after the second trailer. IMO the second trailer gives too much away and just looked like a rehash of the original movie (I guess that is what the meta reviews mean), like The Force Awakens a rehash of A New Hope, hey another death star. Also looks like Trinity will end up having similar powers as The One, or become The One, and be the hero. I could be completely wrong. The 2nd trailer just took out the steam for me and made it seem blah, which reviews are starting to confirm. Underwhelmed, which sucks, because I love the first movie and have seen it 20+ times. That being said, I'll still go see it, but at matinee price. Hopefully, pleasantly surprised.


When they say meta, they mean it's self referential. Like, it doesn't pretend it's not a movie, if that makes sense.
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Just finished. I liked it. Yes, it was meta, but well done. Not as preachy as I expected.
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Drahknor03 said:

Just finished. I liked it. Yes, it was meta, but well done. Not as preachy as I expected.
Same here. Very meta, but I thought it worked. Right now, I'd rank it second among the 4, but I haven't watched 2 or 3 in more than a decade. I'm sure nostalgia played a strong role. Good news is, I didn't hate it.
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Just back from the theater. Liked 90% of the movie. Some of the end, especially the last 5-10 min could have been done so much better.
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Saw it at the theater. Really enjoyed it, definitely worth a watch. Neil Patrick Harris has some great scenes
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
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Aw crap.
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Best way I can explain it, is that it's like wanting a Seinfeld reunion, but getting season seven of Curb Your Enthusiasm instead.

Actually, that's not a great comp at all, because Curb was actually good. But this still had that same, parody/not-the-real-thing vibe, if that makes any sense. Which, on the one hand, I guess I'll give it points for at least trying something different. And there are absolutely things to appreciate about it, and some cool ideas here and there. But man, overall, it's just a nonsensical mess.

I'll put it this way... I have questions - so much about this movie isn't even remotely explained - but I don't even care enough to seek out the answers. Like, at all.

It also looked like straight ass, IMO. The whole thing was shot digitally, and it really does it show. There are tons of quick flashes of the original trilogy throughout, and those shots looked SO MUCH better in comparison. In fact, every single time we glimpsed the original trilogy, I wished I was watching it instead, both in terms of aesthetics and even story (I'd take Revolutions over this, hands down).

This just felt and looked like a fake movie in every sense, and I doubt I ever watch it again.
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agdoc2001 said:



I think this tweet sums up my feelings on the film. Some neat and interesting parts that could've been explored more but overall the Neo/Trinity story felt lame and a lot of the movie was sloppily executed.
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Vince Blake said:

agdoc2001 said:



I think this tweet sums up my feelings on the film. Some neat and interesting parts that could've been explored more but overall the Neo/Trinity story felt lame and a lot of the movie was sloppily executed.


Agreed
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Well, that was a steaming pile. Got 30 mins in and fell asleep.
Soso nikinombiki maaki dii.
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22+ pages of excitement for a wet noodle like this. Disappointing
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That was an awful movie. I know it was made just to make money...but my God was that the dumbest thing I have seen in a while. Glad I watched on MAX. If Keno Reves hadn't been in it, I would compare it to a straight to VHS movie in terms of everything else. And I'm a big fan of the original trilogy.
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AquaCasaAg said:

22+ pages of excitement for a wet noodle like this. Disappointing


Can't say I'm surprised. The trailer made it look terrible, but I was hoping to come to this thread today to see people saying it was worth the watch. Guess I'll sit this one out, like expected.
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Yeah, what a wasted opportunity

20 years for a matrix sequel and so much material. All they can come up with is a mildly entertaining rehash of old scenes!

Smith is a dull yuppie?
Matrix run by another dull yuppie?
Merv, one of the more memorable characters in movie history is just an irrelevant gratuitous plot diversion, just babbling nonsense and walking out!?

Literally none of the new characters had any charisma at all.

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Question for anyone who has seen this new Matrix - I've only seen the first movie. Going to a team-building event today which will include seeing the new movie. Anything relevant to know from the two sequels (that I read were not particularly great)?
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It was so bad. Like a halfassed Sense8 reunion that ended up in a Matrix movie.
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Question for anyone who has seen this new Matrix - I've only seen the first movie. Going to a team-building event today which will include seeing the new movie. Anything relevant to know from the two sequels (that I read were not particularly great)?
this movie makes no sense, so you wont be missing anything.

basically the second movie was just a really great action movie with some character dev.

the third movie was supposed to be super deep/whatever, but really just turns out that neo and the oracle and all are just checks and balances in the matrix, but since neo chooses to let the world burn for his chick, instead of saving zion and thus the matrix, they have to work out a compromise to keep everything together, because all the meat-sickles would croak and the bots run out of juice;

so neo and trinity play jesus and the bots let the smelly carbon units survive.

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Question for anyone who has seen this new Matrix - I've only seen the first movie. Going to a team-building event today which will include seeing the new movie. Anything relevant to know from the two sequels (that I read were not particularly great)?


From the reviews I've read, you should just quit your job.
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I'll be watching this one on HBO. Too many mixed reviews to pay for it.
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It pains me to say it's not worth seeing it in theatres. Doesn't even look all that great.
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Saw it in the theater this afternoon, and understand the criticisms, but I'm not nearly as negative on it as some here are.

It's big, dumb, and fun but maybe tries to be a bit too smart about it. That worked in the first film that was big, (at face value) dumb, and fun but also really damn smart but doesn't quite carry here.

Will post more in the spoiler thread.
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Worst of the 4. Nonsensical plot and exposition and the action was really really bad, what little of it there was. Reminds me of how I felt after seeing Reloaded. Those trailers were incredible but the movie itself was such a far cry from the first one. Reloaded at least had some decent action.
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We'd be so much better off if they just stopped after the original. I know too much profit potential was there for that to happen, but damn they are all lackluster to ass.
 
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