Guitarsoup said:

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Durant is 34 and has missed 150 games over the last three seasons and this is what Phoenix gave for him:

unprotected picks from the Suns in 2023, 2025, 2027, and 2029
pick swap option in 2028

Mikal Bridges 26yo - 17/4/4 on 46/39 shooting this year; 51/39 shooting over the past 3 seasons
Cam Johnson 26yo - 13/4 on 46/43/85 shooting the past two seasons
Jae Crowder - assume gets flipped somewhere

That's a great haul.

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I hate that the Nets got better with this.

Spurs have $25MM in additional cap room to take on more salary.

Brooklyn in line to pay $50 million in lux tax this year with nada to show for it.

Guess who just got handed a pile of first rounders.

Boston's offer for Jakob. Still being cheap asses even without Ainge there -

Boston offered Payton Pritchard, Danilo Gallinari and multiple future second-round picks

FTAG 2000 said:

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Boston's offer for Jakob. Still being cheap asses even without Ainge there -

Boston offered Payton Pritchard, Danilo Gallinari and multiple future second-round picks

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****ing gross. Glad they made this deal they did.

And I'm on record for being a fan of 2nd round picks as ways to move back into the first round, or use them to move up a few picks within the first. But getting a lightly protected 1st I think was the goal for Poeltl. Maybe they could have gotten two, I still think that was a pipe dream, but had they been able to do that, one or both would have been so heavily protected they would have risked never conveying

FTAG 2000 said:

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Boston's offer for Jakob. Still being cheap asses even without Ainge there -

Boston offered Payton Pritchard, Danilo Gallinari and multiple future second-round picks

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Couldn't be the offer. We can't take Danilo in a trade because we cut him.

Jacob can sign with anyone this offseason. Trading him for picks now doesn't change anything in that regard. They weren't going to extend him before the summer because he's due for a larger raise than is allowable with an extension. Honestly, this is pretty risky for Toronto IMO. And this is why nobody was going to give up 2 firsts for him. Getting one lightly protected plus a couple of seconds is a pretty good deal. Toronto must believe their prior relationship will help them lock him in.

I can't believe we haven't received a nice offer for JRich.

Guitarsoup said:

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FTAG 2000 said:

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Boston's offer for Jakob. Still being cheap asses even without Ainge there -

Boston offered Payton Pritchard, Danilo Gallinari and multiple future second-round picks

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Couldn't be the offer. We can't take Danilo in a trade because we cut him.

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It's my understanding we could take him back but wouldn't be able to waive again.

Now that Jak is gone, final draft pick talley from Kawhi trade:


Spurs Received: 2019 1st (Raptors) Keldon Johnson
2022 1st (Raptors) Malaki Branham
2023 2nd (Bulls)
2024 1st (Raptors)
2024 2nd (Lakers)
2025 1st (Bulls)
2025 2nd (Bulls)
2 2nds year not reported yet (Raptors)

Guitarsoup said:

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Now that Jak is gone, final draft pick talley from Kawhi trade:


Spurs Received: 2019 1st (Raptors) Keldon Johnson
2022 1st (Raptors) Malaki Branham
2023 2nd (Bulls)
2024 1st (Raptors)
2024 2nd (Lakers)
2025 1st (Bulls)
2025 2nd (Bulls)
2 2nds year not reported yet (Raptors)

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Not to shabby in retrospect. The Spurs have done a pretty good job of getting guys and improving their value. It happened with Demar, Jacob, Young, Murray and White (both originally very late 1st round picks), and even Bertans. I think JRich and McBuckets are worth more now than when we picked them up.

I really hope we can package some version of Jrich + Doug and some picks for another 1st

Ag Natural said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Now that Jak is gone, final draft pick talley from Kawhi trade:


Spurs Received: 2019 1st (Raptors) Keldon Johnson
2022 1st (Raptors) Malaki Branham
2023 2nd (Bulls)
2024 1st (Raptors)
2024 2nd (Lakers)
2025 1st (Bulls)
2025 2nd (Bulls)
2 2nds year not reported yet (Raptors)

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Not to shabby in retrospect. The Spurs have done a pretty good job of getting guys and improving their value. It happened with Demar, Jacob, Young, Murray and White (both originally very late 1st round picks), and even Bertans. I think JRich and McBuckets are worth more now than when we picked them up.

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Especially considering all of the injury problems (surprise) Kawhi has had since.

TexAg1822 said:

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I really hope we can package some version of Jrich + Doug and some picks for another 1st

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We should. All the contending teams are scrambling to make deals now that he KD deal was done. Especially for a solid young 3 and D wing like JRich.

Days not over

Heat are looking to move Duncan Robinson but teams are expecting first rounders in return. Wonder if we're in the mix there

TexAg1822 said:

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Heat are looking to move Duncan Robinson but teams are expecting first rounders in return. Wonder if we're in the mix there

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That Robinson contract is gross. Don't want any part of that unless they are going to massively pay up.

Ag Natural said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Now that Jak is gone, final draft pick talley from Kawhi trade:


Spurs Received: 2019 1st (Raptors) Keldon Johnson
2022 1st (Raptors) Malaki Branham
2023 2nd (Bulls)
2024 1st (Raptors)
2024 2nd (Lakers)
2025 1st (Bulls)
2025 2nd (Bulls)
2 2nds year not reported yet (Raptors)

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Not to shabby in retrospect. The Spurs have done a pretty good job of getting guys and improving their value. It happened with Demar, Jacob, Young, Murray and White (both originally very late 1st round picks), and even Bertans. I think JRich and McBuckets are worth more now than when we picked them up.

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Yeah, just hate some of the wasted draft picks we have had during rebuilding.

Luka Saminic 19th over Kevin Porter Jr (20/6/6 this year for the Rockets), Brandon Clarke (fine bench PF), Jordan Poole (21/5/3 for GSW this year), Thybulle (minus offensively, elite defensively), Nic Claxton (13/9/2.6b while leading league in FG% for Brooklyn), Daniel Gafford (another solid bench rim protector)

Primo over Sengun (15/9 this year and just turned 20), Trey Murphy (13/4 on 49/40/93 shooting at 22yo), BOnes Hyland (12/3 in 20mpg shooting 40/39 as backup lead guard), JRE -9/5 stretch 4 for the Thunder on 49/39 shooting..

Branham may be good, but Walker Kessler seems like the steal of the draft. Would make trading Jakob that much easier if we had Kessler (8/8 with 2 blocks in 20mpg and 72% FG%)

Lonnie is having a good season in LA (14p, 47/37 shooting) but Heuter was taken right after him. 15/3/3 on 48/39 shooting for Sac this year. Ted Cruz' *****ass son Grayson Allen is putting up 11/4/3 on 45/41 shooting and is great defensively. Robert Williams as a paint protector would be nice. Anfernee Simons is putting up 22/4/3 on 46/39/91 shooting. Jalen Brunson putting up 23/6/4 on 48/41 shooting. Mitchell Robinson is a solid rim protector.

The two drafts before that were White and Murray.

Trey Murphy or Bones Hyland over Primo, Claxton over Saminic, Kessler over Branham and Heuter, Simons, or Allen over Lonnie and this team is remarkably different.

Since White/Murray, we hit on Keldon and Vassell, but struck out had on Saminic, Walker, and Primo. And even as good as Vassell looks, Tyrese Halliburton is an All-NBA guy picked right after him. Desmond Bane was there, too.

Guitarsoup said:

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Ag Natural said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Now that Jak is gone, final draft pick talley from Kawhi trade:


Spurs Received: 2019 1st (Raptors) Keldon Johnson
2022 1st (Raptors) Malaki Branham
2023 2nd (Bulls)
2024 1st (Raptors)
2024 2nd (Lakers)
2025 1st (Bulls)
2025 2nd (Bulls)
2 2nds year not reported yet (Raptors)

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Not to shabby in retrospect. The Spurs have done a pretty good job of getting guys and improving their value. It happened with Demar, Jacob, Young, Murray and White (both originally very late 1st round picks), and even Bertans. I think JRich and McBuckets are worth more now than when we picked them up.

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Yeah, just hate some of the wasted draft picks we have had during rebuilding.

Luka Saminic 19th over Kevin Porter Jr (20/6/6 this year for the Rockets), Brandon Clarke (fine bench PF), Jordan Poole (21/5/3 for GSW this year), Thybulle (minus offensively, elite defensively), Nic Claxton (13/9/2.6b while leading league in FG% for Brooklyn), Daniel Gafford (another solid bench rim protector)

Primo over Sengun (15/9 this year and just turned 20), Trey Murphy (13/4 on 49/40/93 shooting at 22yo), BOnes Hyland (12/3 in 20mpg shooting 40/39 as backup lead guard), JRE -9/5 stretch 4 for the Thunder on 49/39 shooting..

Branham may be good, but Walker Kessler seems like the steal of the draft. Would make trading Jakob that much easier if we had Kessler (8/8 with 2 blocks in 20mpg and 72% FG%)

Lonnie is having a good season in LA (14p, 47/37 shooting) but Heuter was taken right after him. 15/3/3 on 48/39 shooting for Sac this year. Ted Cruz' *****ass son Grayson Allen is putting up 11/4/3 on 45/41 shooting and is great defensively. Robert Williams as a paint protector would be nice. Anfernee Simons is putting up 22/4/3 on 46/39/91 shooting. Jalen Brunson putting up 23/6/4 on 48/41 shooting. Mitchell Robinson is a solid rim protector.

The two drafts before that were White and Murray.

Trey Murphy or Bones Hyland over Primo, Claxton over Saminic, Kessler over Branham and Heuter, Simons, or Allen over Lonnie and this team is remarkably different.

Since White/Murray, we hit on Keldon and Vassell, but struck out had on Saminic, Walker, and Primo. And even as good as Vassell looks, Tyrese Halliburton is an All-NBA guy picked right after him. Desmond Bane was there, too.

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I agree with you with most of this, but the Primo situation we can't place on the FO.

Granted, I wasn't huge on taking him anyways that early, but the fact he didn't pan out is out of their control. While I see what you're saying, hindsight is always 20/20 and I feel like the Spurs are in the upper tier of drafting when it comes to the NBA

Guitarsoup said:

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Ag Natural said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Now that Jak is gone, final draft pick talley from Kawhi trade:


Spurs Received: 2019 1st (Raptors) Keldon Johnson
2022 1st (Raptors) Malaki Branham
2023 2nd (Bulls)
2024 1st (Raptors)
2024 2nd (Lakers)
2025 1st (Bulls)
2025 2nd (Bulls)
2 2nds year not reported yet (Raptors)

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Not to shabby in retrospect. The Spurs have done a pretty good job of getting guys and improving their value. It happened with Demar, Jacob, Young, Murray and White (both originally very late 1st round picks), and even Bertans. I think JRich and McBuckets are worth more now than when we picked them up.

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Yeah, just hate some of the wasted draft picks we have had during rebuilding.

Luka Saminic 19th over Kevin Porter Jr (20/6/6 this year for the Rockets), Brandon Clarke (fine bench PF), Jordan Poole (21/5/3 for GSW this year), Thybulle (minus offensively, elite defensively), Nic Claxton (13/9/2.6b while leading league in FG% for Brooklyn), Daniel Gafford (another solid bench rim protector)

Primo over Sengun (15/9 this year and just turned 20), Trey Murphy (13/4 on 49/40/93 shooting at 22yo), BOnes Hyland (12/3 in 20mpg shooting 40/39 as backup lead guard), JRE -9/5 stretch 4 for the Thunder on 49/39 shooting..

Branham may be good, but Walker Kessler seems like the steal of the draft. Would make trading Jakob that much easier if we had Kessler (8/8 with 2 blocks in 20mpg and 72% FG%)

Lonnie is having a good season in LA (14p, 47/37 shooting) but Heuter was taken right after him. 15/3/3 on 48/39 shooting for Sac this year. Ted Cruz' *****ass son Grayson Allen is putting up 11/4/3 on 45/41 shooting and is great defensively. Robert Williams as a paint protector would be nice. Anfernee Simons is putting up 22/4/3 on 46/39/91 shooting. Jalen Brunson putting up 23/6/4 on 48/41 shooting. Mitchell Robinson is a solid rim protector.

The two drafts before that were White and Murray.

Trey Murphy or Bones Hyland over Primo, Claxton over Saminic, Kessler over Branham and Heuter, Simons, or Allen over Lonnie and this team is remarkably different.

Since White/Murray, we hit on Keldon and Vassell, but struck out had on Saminic, Walker, and Primo. And even as good as Vassell looks, Tyrese Halliburton is an All-NBA guy picked right after him. Desmond Bane was there, too.

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Sengun and Halliburton really hurt. Lots of folks were pounding the table for those guys when the Spurs were on the clock.

FTAG 2000 said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Ag Natural said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Now that Jak is gone, final draft pick talley from Kawhi trade:


Spurs Received: 2019 1st (Raptors) Keldon Johnson
2022 1st (Raptors) Malaki Branham
2023 2nd (Bulls)
2024 1st (Raptors)
2024 2nd (Lakers)
2025 1st (Bulls)
2025 2nd (Bulls)
2 2nds year not reported yet (Raptors)

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Not to shabby in retrospect. The Spurs have done a pretty good job of getting guys and improving their value. It happened with Demar, Jacob, Young, Murray and White (both originally very late 1st round picks), and even Bertans. I think JRich and McBuckets are worth more now than when we picked them up.

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Yeah, just hate some of the wasted draft picks we have had during rebuilding.

Luka Saminic 19th over Kevin Porter Jr (20/6/6 this year for the Rockets), Brandon Clarke (fine bench PF), Jordan Poole (21/5/3 for GSW this year), Thybulle (minus offensively, elite defensively), Nic Claxton (13/9/2.6b while leading league in FG% for Brooklyn), Daniel Gafford (another solid bench rim protector)

Primo over Sengun (15/9 this year and just turned 20), Trey Murphy (13/4 on 49/40/93 shooting at 22yo), BOnes Hyland (12/3 in 20mpg shooting 40/39 as backup lead guard), JRE -9/5 stretch 4 for the Thunder on 49/39 shooting..

Branham may be good, but Walker Kessler seems like the steal of the draft. Would make trading Jakob that much easier if we had Kessler (8/8 with 2 blocks in 20mpg and 72% FG%)

Lonnie is having a good season in LA (14p, 47/37 shooting) but Heuter was taken right after him. 15/3/3 on 48/39 shooting for Sac this year. Ted Cruz' *****ass son Grayson Allen is putting up 11/4/3 on 45/41 shooting and is great defensively. Robert Williams as a paint protector would be nice. Anfernee Simons is putting up 22/4/3 on 46/39/91 shooting. Jalen Brunson putting up 23/6/4 on 48/41 shooting. Mitchell Robinson is a solid rim protector.

The two drafts before that were White and Murray.

Trey Murphy or Bones Hyland over Primo, Claxton over Saminic, Kessler over Branham and Heuter, Simons, or Allen over Lonnie and this team is remarkably different.

Since White/Murray, we hit on Keldon and Vassell, but struck out had on Saminic, Walker, and Primo. And even as good as Vassell looks, Tyrese Halliburton is an All-NBA guy picked right after him. Desmond Bane was there, too.

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Sengun and Halliburton really hurt. Lots of folks were pounding the table for those guys when the Spurs were on the clock.

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Every team can go back find a horrific list of what-ifs from drafts. Hey, why didn't someone take Jokic in the 1st round?!

This is why the FO is accumulating picks. You probably hit on 50%. Saminic was an upside pick, he didn't figure it out. Walker is not any better than the young guys they've picked since but he is a solid NBA player. I see the strategy had really shifted to getting two way players. That's why they went Vassell over Halliburton. That's why Primo was targeted over Senguin (who is a terrible defender). Look at numbers all you want but this team needs to play defense. I think after the Saminic draft they changed their strategy a little.

Going back and getting Halliburton over Vassell would be interesting. I think if we knew both White and Murray would be gone then that would have been the pick. This team was just so heavy at PG with no big wings. If it makes you feel better, several teams regret not taking Halliburton OR Vassell in the top 10 that year.

TexAg1822 said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Ag Natural said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Now that Jak is gone, final draft pick talley from Kawhi trade:


Spurs Received: 2019 1st (Raptors) Keldon Johnson
2022 1st (Raptors) Malaki Branham
2023 2nd (Bulls)
2024 1st (Raptors)
2024 2nd (Lakers)
2025 1st (Bulls)
2025 2nd (Bulls)
2 2nds year not reported yet (Raptors)

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Not to shabby in retrospect. The Spurs have done a pretty good job of getting guys and improving their value. It happened with Demar, Jacob, Young, Murray and White (both originally very late 1st round picks), and even Bertans. I think JRich and McBuckets are worth more now than when we picked them up.

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Yeah, just hate some of the wasted draft picks we have had during rebuilding.

Luka Saminic 19th over Kevin Porter Jr (20/6/6 this year for the Rockets), Brandon Clarke (fine bench PF), Jordan Poole (21/5/3 for GSW this year), Thybulle (minus offensively, elite defensively), Nic Claxton (13/9/2.6b while leading league in FG% for Brooklyn), Daniel Gafford (another solid bench rim protector)

Primo over Sengun (15/9 this year and just turned 20), Trey Murphy (13/4 on 49/40/93 shooting at 22yo), BOnes Hyland (12/3 in 20mpg shooting 40/39 as backup lead guard), JRE -9/5 stretch 4 for the Thunder on 49/39 shooting..

Branham may be good, but Walker Kessler seems like the steal of the draft. Would make trading Jakob that much easier if we had Kessler (8/8 with 2 blocks in 20mpg and 72% FG%)

Lonnie is having a good season in LA (14p, 47/37 shooting) but Heuter was taken right after him. 15/3/3 on 48/39 shooting for Sac this year. Ted Cruz' *****ass son Grayson Allen is putting up 11/4/3 on 45/41 shooting and is great defensively. Robert Williams as a paint protector would be nice. Anfernee Simons is putting up 22/4/3 on 46/39/91 shooting. Jalen Brunson putting up 23/6/4 on 48/41 shooting. Mitchell Robinson is a solid rim protector.

The two drafts before that were White and Murray.

Trey Murphy or Bones Hyland over Primo, Claxton over Saminic, Kessler over Branham and Heuter, Simons, or Allen over Lonnie and this team is remarkably different.

Since White/Murray, we hit on Keldon and Vassell, but struck out had on Saminic, Walker, and Primo. And even as good as Vassell looks, Tyrese Halliburton is an All-NBA guy picked right after him. Desmond Bane was there, too.

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I agree with you with most of this, but the Primo situation we can't place on the FO.

Granted, I wasn't huge on taking him anyways that early, but the fact he didn't pan out is out of their control. While I see what you're saying, hindsight is always 20/20 and I feel like the Spurs are in the upper tier of drafting when it comes to the NBA

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A ton of people wanted us to take Halliburton over Vassell at the time. Pretty sure if you searched the draft thread here, you'd see that.

And I am guessing there were red flags in Primo's past. He alluded to his own past history and his accuser said that his actions were ongoing and she warned the Spurs FO starting in Dec 21.

Halliburton would have been great but i don't think we have scratched the surface with Vassell yet. Jury is still out IMO. It's Phoenix who screwed that one up, not the Spurs.

Ag Natural said:

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FTAG 2000 said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Ag Natural said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Now that Jak is gone, final draft pick talley from Kawhi trade:


Spurs Received: 2019 1st (Raptors) Keldon Johnson
2022 1st (Raptors) Malaki Branham
2023 2nd (Bulls)
2024 1st (Raptors)
2024 2nd (Lakers)
2025 1st (Bulls)
2025 2nd (Bulls)
2 2nds year not reported yet (Raptors)

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Not to shabby in retrospect. The Spurs have done a pretty good job of getting guys and improving their value. It happened with Demar, Jacob, Young, Murray and White (both originally very late 1st round picks), and even Bertans. I think JRich and McBuckets are worth more now than when we picked them up.

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Yeah, just hate some of the wasted draft picks we have had during rebuilding.

Luka Saminic 19th over Kevin Porter Jr (20/6/6 this year for the Rockets), Brandon Clarke (fine bench PF), Jordan Poole (21/5/3 for GSW this year), Thybulle (minus offensively, elite defensively), Nic Claxton (13/9/2.6b while leading league in FG% for Brooklyn), Daniel Gafford (another solid bench rim protector)

Primo over Sengun (15/9 this year and just turned 20), Trey Murphy (13/4 on 49/40/93 shooting at 22yo), BOnes Hyland (12/3 in 20mpg shooting 40/39 as backup lead guard), JRE -9/5 stretch 4 for the Thunder on 49/39 shooting..

Branham may be good, but Walker Kessler seems like the steal of the draft. Would make trading Jakob that much easier if we had Kessler (8/8 with 2 blocks in 20mpg and 72% FG%)

Lonnie is having a good season in LA (14p, 47/37 shooting) but Heuter was taken right after him. 15/3/3 on 48/39 shooting for Sac this year. Ted Cruz' *****ass son Grayson Allen is putting up 11/4/3 on 45/41 shooting and is great defensively. Robert Williams as a paint protector would be nice. Anfernee Simons is putting up 22/4/3 on 46/39/91 shooting. Jalen Brunson putting up 23/6/4 on 48/41 shooting. Mitchell Robinson is a solid rim protector.

The two drafts before that were White and Murray.

Trey Murphy or Bones Hyland over Primo, Claxton over Saminic, Kessler over Branham and Heuter, Simons, or Allen over Lonnie and this team is remarkably different.

Since White/Murray, we hit on Keldon and Vassell, but struck out had on Saminic, Walker, and Primo. And even as good as Vassell looks, Tyrese Halliburton is an All-NBA guy picked right after him. Desmond Bane was there, too.

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Sengun and Halliburton really hurt. Lots of folks were pounding the table for those guys when the Spurs were on the clock.

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Every team can go back find a horrific list of what-ifs from drafts. Hey, why didn't someone take Jokic in the 1st round?!

This is why the FO is accumulating picks. You probably hit on 50%. Saminic was an upside pick, he didn't figure it out. Walker is not any better than the young guys they've picked since but he is a solid NBA player. I see the strategy had really shifted to getting two way players. That's why they went Vassell over Halliburton. That's why Primo was targeted over Senguin (who is a terrible defender). Look at numbers all you want but this team needs to play defense. I think after the Saminic draft they changed their strategy a little.

Going back and getting Halliburton over Vassell would be interesting. I think if we knew both White and Murray would be gone then that would have been the pick. This team was just so heavy at PG with no big wings. If it makes you feel better, several teams regret not taking Halliburton OR Vassell in the top 10 that year.

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The joke constantly was the Spurs were just taking combo guards that weren't great SGs and couldn't be a full time PG. That's basically what White and Murray are. Halliburton was more of a pure PG. We see White is basically a 12/4/4 guy on a good team with a good shot and great defense. Murray still doesn't have a great shot, but is a better all-around guy. I just don't think he is really aa great lead guard, no matter what his numbers were last year. But as a secondary lead or #2 player, he seems to fit well. Only with him in that role, ATL is still under .500 and doesn't seem to have a path to success.

FTAG 2000 said:

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TexAg1822 said:

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Heat are looking to move Duncan Robinson but teams are expecting first rounders in return. Wonder if we're in the mix there

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That Robinson contract is gross. Don't want any part of that unless they are going to massively pay up.

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Agreed. If we are going to take on an albatross contract like that, you might as well try for Ben Simmons from the Nets. I mean, at 26, why the **** not?? At least take the phone call from Sean Marks

Enzo The Baker said:

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Halliburton would have been great but i don't think we have scratched the surface with Vassell yet. Jury is still out IMO. It's Phoenix who screwed that one up, not the Spurs.

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GSW - took Wiseman #2 overall over LaMelo and the others.

Remember the Spurs trying to move #11 and TheMarcus for #2. So glad we didnt end up with Wiseman there.

Only a couple hours left. With the moves Indiana has made, the Spurs are pretty much the only team remaining with cap space.

Hoping Brooklyn wants to get below the tax line now since they blew up there chances and sends SA one of those first rounders they got from Phoenix to take on a bad contract (Joe Harris?). It would save them over something like $50 mil by doing that deal.

Sher Thing said:

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Only a couple hours left. With the moves Indiana has made, the Spurs are pretty much the only team remaining with cap space.

Hoping Brooklyn wants to get below the tax line now since they blew up there chances and sends SA one of those first rounders they got from Phoenix to take on a bad contract (Joe Harris?). It would save them over something like $50 mil by doing that deal.

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So tank and save up max space in summer 2023 only to spend 30mm in 2023 on 8p2r Joe Harris and 2p1r Khem Birch


But maybe get a bottom 5 first rounder out of it from Brooklyn via Phoenix?



Brooklyn is only 7.8mm over the lux tax line right now for a 12.5mm fine. Seth Curry is out an indefinite amount of time and has an ending contract. Give me a pick for him and we'll call it even. No tax. Saves them like $15mm.

Golden State has also been in trade discussion regarding James Wiseman with both Portland and San Antonio today, sources said.

Pistons and Hawks have talked a separate John Collins deal, sources said, but being told momentum there has stalled. https://t.co/0oDYKwb8ml

— Jake Fischer (@JakeLFischer) February 9, 2023

Fwiw

West Texan said:

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Golden State has also been in trade discussion regarding James Wiseman with both Portland and San Antonio today, sources said.

Pistons and Hawks have talked a separate John Collins deal, sources said, but being told momentum there has stalled. https://t.co/0oDYKwb8ml

— Jake Fischer (@JakeLFischer) February 9, 2023

Fwiw

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Never mind

The Warriors are trading James Wiseman to the Pistons for Saddiq Bey, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) February 9, 2023

Welp. Brooklyn or bust.

Hate the warriors.

Bey going to ATL. GS gets five second rounders from ATL. Wiseman to DET.

Ben Simmons leading the Nets team meeting today pic.twitter.com/JUl54hCEwW

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) February 9, 2023

West Texan said:

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West Texan said:

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Golden State has also been in trade discussion regarding James Wiseman with both Portland and San Antonio today, sources said.

Pistons and Hawks have talked a separate John Collins deal, sources said, but being told momentum there has stalled. https://t.co/0oDYKwb8ml

— Jake Fischer (@JakeLFischer) February 9, 2023

Fwiw

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Never mind

The Warriors are trading James Wiseman to the Pistons for Saddiq Bey, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) February 9, 2023

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Bey getting flipped to the Hawks.

Oof.

Timberwolves effectively turned:

Andrew Wiggins, Jonathan Kuminga, Walker Kessler, Jarred Vanderbilt, Malik Beasley, Patrick Beverley, four first round picks and a pick swap into:

Mike Conley, Rudy Gobert, NAW and a second round pick

— Jake Price (@JPrice_25) February 9, 2023

Mo Bamba to the Lakers for PatBev