Trump Elon feud

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infinity ag said:

Elon calls the POTUS a pedo and now deletes the tweet.... like a dog.

Is this how he runs his companies? I am amazed he is that successful considering how impulsive he is and does things without thinking. Or maybe he has become that way after success? People change.


Imagine being worth 100s of billions and high on Ketamine. Im surprised we arent seeing even more outrageous posts.

Nothing against billionaires on K. Just a much different world than what the rest of us live in. If Elon wasn't in full DGAF mode, I'd be very concerned.
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Jeeper79 said:

infinity ag said:

I fully agree with him on the spending. CUT CUT CUT. I hate Debt myself. We should start by balancing the budget somehow.

How is Trump claiming his new bill is "the best" and Elon and others claim it will increase spending? I have not read the bill or even a summary so I am not sure how both parties can say opposite things.
The bill does come with some spending cuts, but they come with a gaping asterisk… they're scheduled to occur several election cycles from now, during which time it's not only plausible but likely that a Dem-controlled Congress will have the opportunity to cancel them. And they' amount to just $1.8T over a 10 year period.

This isn't a strategic error. Rather, the folks voting for this bill simply don't care if it happens or not because that's a problem for another Congress and they'd rather claim a win than do the work.

On the flip side, the $5T debt ceiling increases in the bill are scheduled to occur immediately. And they're sized to be large enough that we wouldn't need another debt ceiling increase maybe until Trump leaves office. It's an HUGE amount. And we all know what happens when you give government a long spending leash.

So Congress is borrowing from the future and giving it an IOU that it very likely can't redeem.

Musk, Massie, Paul would like to see us at least go back to pre COVId spending levels. This bill can't even get us there and 90% of the establishment is attacking them for making things difficult.


Many of the ones voting on it today are the same ones that will be voting in the future to cancel the planned cuts and spend more.

They know it. They don't plan to cut spending. They know they'll be able to pass new spending whenever they want and this budget plan will be replaced in a few years, and they'll be the one voting on it.
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7th Grade girls in cliques are calling this childish behavior.
Phatbob
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infinity ag said:

I felt this as well, and looks like others agree.
Trump was the MORE mature one (as compared to Musk) in all of this. Trump should have completely ignored Musk but to his credit he did not escalate beyond a point.

Trump advised Vance to take a diplomatic approach after Musk's blowup

Trump declined to go all-out in his attacks on Musk and counseled the vice president to show restraint in his comments about Musk, preserving a possible bridge.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/06/07/trump-musk-vance/

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While Elon Musk fired off social media posts excoriating and insulting him, President Donald Trump sought to keep the situation from escalating further, instructing his vice president to take a careful approach to how he addressed the topic publicly.

Trump didn't want to fully burn the bridge.
As Vice President JD Vance prepared to leave the White House on Thursday to head to Nashville where he would fundraise and record a high-profile podcast in which Trump knew the Musk situation would come up Trump gave Vance marching orders on messaging.

The president told Vance, a prolific online poster himself, "to be diplomatic in how he handles it publicly," according to a person with knowledge of the conversation, one of two who confirmed the exchange to The Washington Post.

Trump didn't want a harsh response by Vance to inflame the situation a strategy that left the door open for a repairing of the broken bridge later.







I think it is just as likely that Trump recognizes game. Musk is one of the few people who do it better than him, and Trump was not going to come out of it on the better end.
Red Fishing Ag93
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The was reposted by Elon, and he's right.

hph6203
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infinity ag said:

Elon calls the POTUS a pedo and now deletes the tweet.... like a dog.

Is this how he runs his companies? I am amazed he is that successful considering how impulsive he is and does things without thinking. Or maybe he has become that way after success? People change.
You keep saying this. The reason he's successful is the same reason you think he's stupid. He does things that you wouldn't do, and because you wouldn't do them you define them as stupid. Some of those things are actually stupid, some of them appear to be but aren't. What makes people disproportionately successful is doing things other people aren't willing to do.

On the low end that's delayed gratification/saving/investing money. On the high end, where Elon lives, it's starting an online payments company when everyone in the world is terrified of putting personal information online, starting a rocket company when every one preceding it has failed, and starting an electric vehicle company. He succeeds by being "stupid."
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flown-the-coop
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Red Fishing Ag93 said:





How many nationwide injunctions did the Argentine courts issue to stop him? Cause that would be relevant.
Im Gipper
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Elon calls the POTUS a pedo


Lies from the CEO-DS patient zero


I'm Gipper
Im Gipper
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My money is on "Bannon made this up"




I'm Gipper
gonemaroon
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lol please tell me he did that would be funny as hell and sad all at the same time
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flown-the-coop said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:





How many nationwide injunctions did the Argentine courts issue to stop him? Cause that would be relevant.
Maga onboard with this guy is not shocking at all.
flown-the-coop
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Oh I love what that guys has done and wish MAGA could do the same in the US.

But Dems want to spend millions to fly a wife beater, sex / human trafficker gang banger back to the United States to spend millions more in a trial with a defense paid for with our tax dollars and millions more to house him for the life sentence he will receive.

How could we ever cut spending when Dems want to spend tens of millions to protect gang bangers sent here by Venezuela to destroy our Country.

I feel bad for folks who cheer the DemLib machine on but you be you.
hph6203
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"It's hard, I don't want to."

There were riots in the streets when Milei did what he was doing. If you can't deal with hard, you shouldn't be president.
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"Soros guy punches Musk as Musk tries to save America."
infinity ag
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Phatbob said:

infinity ag said:

I felt this as well, and looks like others agree.
Trump was the MORE mature one (as compared to Musk) in all of this. Trump should have completely ignored Musk but to his credit he did not escalate beyond a point.

Trump advised Vance to take a diplomatic approach after Musk's blowup

Trump declined to go all-out in his attacks on Musk and counseled the vice president to show restraint in his comments about Musk, preserving a possible bridge.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/06/07/trump-musk-vance/

Quote:

While Elon Musk fired off social media posts excoriating and insulting him, President Donald Trump sought to keep the situation from escalating further, instructing his vice president to take a careful approach to how he addressed the topic publicly.

Trump didn't want to fully burn the bridge.
As Vice President JD Vance prepared to leave the White House on Thursday to head to Nashville where he would fundraise and record a high-profile podcast in which Trump knew the Musk situation would come up Trump gave Vance marching orders on messaging.

The president told Vance, a prolific online poster himself, "to be diplomatic in how he handles it publicly," according to a person with knowledge of the conversation, one of two who confirmed the exchange to The Washington Post.

Trump didn't want a harsh response by Vance to inflame the situation a strategy that left the door open for a repairing of the broken bridge later.







I think it is just as likely that Trump recognizes game. Musk is one of the few people who do it better than him, and Trump was not going to come out of it on the better end.

That is a good point.... quite likely.

Trump is a bully and bullies know when they see a bigger or equal bully.
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Red Fishing Ag93 said:





He also recovered an economy where toilet paper was more valuable then their currency.
infinity ag
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hph6203 said:

infinity ag said:

Elon calls the POTUS a pedo and now deletes the tweet.... like a dog.

Is this how he runs his companies? I am amazed he is that successful considering how impulsive he is and does things without thinking. Or maybe he has become that way after success? People change.
You keep saying this. The reason he's successful is the same reason you think he's stupid. He does things that you wouldn't do, and because you wouldn't do them you define them as stupid. Some of those things are actually stupid, some of them appear to be but aren't. What makes people disproportionately successful is doing things other people aren't willing to do.

On the low end that's delayed gratification/saving/investing money. On the high end, where Elon lives, it's starting an online payments company when everyone in the world is terrified of putting personal information online, starting a rocket company when every one preceding it has failed, and starting an electric vehicle company. He succeeds by being "stupid."


Could be.. maybe that is true. Elon probably takes INSAAAAANE amounts of risks, something people like us cannot even fathom. More risk, more reward. The "spike" from such people is more than the level headed "mature" types.

There is a downside to being such people also, his personal life is a mess (from my perspective). He doesn't even have a house and claims to sleep in his office or in the labs. Not sure how much is true. He is drugged up all the time, and has Aspergers or something, god knows how many kids with how many hoars. Yes he has 433B but I am good with whatever I have and my "normal" boring life.
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"I feel like the kids of a bitter divorce, where you're just saying, 'I really wish Mommy and Daddy would stop screaming,'" Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said on his podcast Friday.


BWAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
Jeeper79
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IslanderAg04 said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:





He also recovered an economy where toilet paper was more valuable then their currency.
And if they'd taken similar measures earlier, it would never have come to that.
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There is a downside to being such people also, his personal life is a mess (from my perspective).

Fame is expensive to the family. Period.

I read somewhere that Obama kids are dropping their last name.

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Im Gipper said:

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Elon calls the POTUS a pedo


Lies from the CEO-DS patient zero




The sex workers in Epstein's employ were far from children possibly still minors but not children
Still wrong and possibly illegal but pedo should be reserved for actual pedos
Jeeper79
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Sq 17 said:

Im Gipper said:

Quote:

Elon calls the POTUS a pedo


Lies from the CEO-DS patient zero




The sex workers in Epstein's employ were far from children possibly still minors but not children
Still wrong and possibly illegal but pedo should be reserved for actual pedos

Would you prefer them called rapists?
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infinity ag said:

Phatbob said:

infinity ag said:

I felt this as well, and looks like others agree.
Trump was the MORE mature one (as compared to Musk) in all of this. Trump should have completely ignored Musk but to his credit he did not escalate beyond a point.

Trump advised Vance to take a diplomatic approach after Musk's blowup

Trump declined to go all-out in his attacks on Musk and counseled the vice president to show restraint in his comments about Musk, preserving a possible bridge.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/06/07/trump-musk-vance/

Quote:

While Elon Musk fired off social media posts excoriating and insulting him, President Donald Trump sought to keep the situation from escalating further, instructing his vice president to take a careful approach to how he addressed the topic publicly.

Trump didn't want to fully burn the bridge.
As Vice President JD Vance prepared to leave the White House on Thursday to head to Nashville where he would fundraise and record a high-profile podcast in which Trump knew the Musk situation would come up Trump gave Vance marching orders on messaging.

The president told Vance, a prolific online poster himself, "to be diplomatic in how he handles it publicly," according to a person with knowledge of the conversation, one of two who confirmed the exchange to The Washington Post.

Trump didn't want a harsh response by Vance to inflame the situation a strategy that left the door open for a repairing of the broken bridge later.







I think it is just as likely that Trump recognizes game. Musk is one of the few people who do it better than him, and Trump was not going to come out of it on the better end.

That is a good point.... quite likely.

Trump is a bully and bullies know when they see a bigger or equal bully.



Biden was a bully too. But he was a sleepy bully.
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infinity ag said:

Jeeper79 said:

The Elon postd directly attacking Trump and Congress have stopped, but he's still 100% on board the new party train and the over spending train. This whole thing looks like it's got legs.




I fully agree with him on the spending. CUT CUT CUT. I hate Debt myself. We should start by balancing the budget somehow.

How is Trump claiming his new bill is "the best" and Elon and others claim it will increase spending? I have not read the bill or even a summary so I am not sure how both parties can say opposite things.


The only problem with this philosophy is the places that would actually make a dent in the budget are the same areas that nobody would be willing to make concessions.

I do agree as well, it's just going to be next to impossible.

Red Fishing Ag93
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NSFW.

He's right, you know.

No Spin Ag
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Red Fishing Ag93 said:

NSFW.

He's right, you know.




Gotta love AI
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
infinity ag
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Squadron7 said:

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There is a downside to being such people also, his personal life is a mess (from my perspective).

Fame is expensive to the family. Period.

I read somewhere that Obama kids are dropping their last name.



Yes, 1 kid. But she wants to create her own clothing brand or something. Having Obama in there could be polarizing, so she is going with her name and her grandma's name or something.

Good idea in my opinion.
Aust Ag
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I can't imagine she goes full-on with that, not trading on the Obama name. It's very rare to see that. Sheen/Estavez, Coppola/Nick Cage, Goldie Hawn/Kate Hudson. I say she manages to keep it clear who she is.
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Drahknor03 said:

Maybe I should have put "spending" in quotes. The CBO scores tax cuts as spending. The cost of the OBBB comes almost entirely from the tax cuts. NEW spending comes from raising SALT and border security funding. Everything else is the tax cuts.
Maybe you should have also put "tax cuts" in quotes as well. The OBBB simply extends the CURRENT tax rates that were due to expire at the end of the year.

Only Washington DC and the MSM considers loss of future revenue based upon an arbitrary future tax rate as baseline. Any extension of existing tax rates is not loss of future revenue; rather, it is "spending" and a "tax cut for billionaires".

Anyone that has ever run a business should look at it like GAP principles. Anticipated revenue. It has nothing to do with expenses, and it damned sure isn't "earned" revenue. Of all people, Elon should understand this. He's downed the D.C. Kool-aid.
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I would very much like to hear flown the coop's, Cougar11's, etc. thoughts on this? Seems like an appropriate circle back.



We may disagree on spending and how to tackle our debt, but Trump still deserves our support because he's fighting the authoritarian left and unlike them, is true to the constitution. That's what you've been telling us, no??

Come on guys. Let's hear it. How far does your fealty go?
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I'll play.

"If he does, he'll have to pay the consequences for that," Trump told NBC News. However, according to the outlet, Trump did not detail what the consequences would be.

You certainly are free to jump to the conclusion that Trump is referring to some authoritaria actions that you are SURE he is going to take if Elon funds democrats. You are also certainly free to assume Trump does NOT mean that all of the inroads he has made with Conservatives will be lost... AND you are free to assume that Trump does NOT mean that the resulting policies of Democrats who might win as a result of Elon funding them will do more harm to Elon's businesses and personal life than even he could imagine.

As for me, I'm not jumping to the worst possible conclusion of what that statement could mean. If it ever happens, bring it back up, and we'll talk.

Until then, I'd advise caution if you want to call individuals out regarding something that involves YOUR assumptions. It makes you look the fool.
Jet White
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You think reading the quote you just posted as the President threatening a private citizen on the basis of what he knows to be completely legal behavior as "the worst possible assumption"?

And I'm the fool?

I hope you got some stretching in before that type of mental gymnastics.
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Jet White said:

You think reading the quote you just posted as the President threatening a private citizen on the basis of what he knows to be completely legal behavior as "the worst possible assumption"?

And I'm the fool?

I hope you got some stretching in before that type of mental gymnastics.
Oh, I'm sorry. Were you thinking of something worse?

If so, do tell. I'm all ears.
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jrdaustin said:

Jet White said:

You think reading the quote you just posted as the President threatening a private citizen on the basis of what he knows to be completely legal behavior as "the worst possible assumption"?

And I'm the fool?

I hope you got some stretching in before that type of mental gymnastics.
Oh, I'm sorry. Were you thinking of something worse?

If so, do tell. I'm all ears.


I think you're lost here.
 
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