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Breaking news: Republicans are Democrat Lite. This infighting is literally happening between two former Democrats who currently masquerade as Republicans for the sake of grifting.

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But theyre not grifters they want america first! Maybe people like paul ryan were right

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Cougar11 said:

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Jesus some of you on this board not even 6 months into Trump's presidency and crying and whining is hilarious! You think he can just steamroll his agenda through congress let alone fight the whole judiciary at the same time?

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If he had completed his agenda in 130 days they would have called him a tyrant, dictator, king, how dare he, doesn't he know we have 3 branches of government?

Again, head over on a Saturday to the Zoo or the Xtra Zoo and it's always the same. Monday morning awning, Mensa meeting about what they would have done, how they never supported the coaching hire, how the other guy (Coach DeSantis) would have been better.

It's very easy for a lot of folks to scream about what they would do when they would be scared ****less if things happened as they called for.

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yeah, sometimes I forget im on texags.

These guys don't understand each other.

Elon Musk is too guileless. He says exactly what he thinks is true with little regard for how others will react. He alienates allies by airing disputes in public instead of settling them behind closed doors.

Because he is a sperg… https://t.co/sESZNgMszH

— Devon Eriksen (@Devon_Eriksen_) June 5, 2025

Jet White said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Cougar11 said:

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Jesus some of you on this board not even 6 months into Trump's presidency and crying and whining is hilarious! You think he can just steamroll his agenda through congress let alone fight the whole judiciary at the same time?

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If he had completed his agenda in 130 days they would have called him a tyrant, dictator, king, how dare he, doesn't he know we have 3 branches of government?

Again, head over on a Saturday to the Zoo or the Xtra Zoo and it's always the same. Monday morning awning, Mensa meeting about what they would have done, how they never supported the coaching hire, how the other guy (Coach DeSantis) would have been better.

It's very easy for a lot of folks to scream about what they would do when they would be scared ****less if things happened as they called for.

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This "logic" quite literally sets up a scenario where Trump can't be fairly criticized regardless of what he does or doesn't do.

How intellectually honest. What a laughably ridiculous premise.

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When you start fairly criticizing ANYTHING then we can discuss.

You quite literally **** on everything but your own opinion. That's fine, but it's not a discussion.

Trump does plenty to be critical about. Could he have been more vocal on demanding cuts? Maybe, but there is a calculus as to what is negotiated in public v private. BTW- you only get to see the carefully crafted public part.

Do I wish Trump would put his head down and just do the work. Of course, but that's not him and any 80 he ain't changing.

So I am fine unabashedly supporting him if anything to counter those who cannot stand to say one ******* positive thing about him. Particular in response to those who never say a positive thing about anything.

flown-the-coop said:

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Jet White said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Cougar11 said:

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Jesus some of you on this board not even 6 months into Trump's presidency and crying and whining is hilarious! You think he can just steamroll his agenda through congress let alone fight the whole judiciary at the same time?

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If he had completed his agenda in 130 days they would have called him a tyrant, dictator, king, how dare he, doesn't he know we have 3 branches of government?

Again, head over on a Saturday to the Zoo or the Xtra Zoo and it's always the same. Monday morning awning, Mensa meeting about what they would have done, how they never supported the coaching hire, how the other guy (Coach DeSantis) would have been better.

It's very easy for a lot of folks to scream about what they would do when they would be scared ****less if things happened as they called for.

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This "logic" quite literally sets up a scenario where Trump can't be fairly criticized regardless of what he does or doesn't do.

How intellectually honest. What a laughably ridiculous premise.

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When you start fairly criticizing ANYTHING then we can discuss.

You quite literally **** on everything but your own opinion. That's fine, but it's not a discussion.

Trump does plenty to be critical about. Could he have been more vocal on demanding cuts? Maybe, but there is a calculus as to what is negotiated in public v private. BTW- you only get to see the carefully crafted public part.

Do I wish Trump would put his head down and just do the work. Of course, but that's not him and any 80 he ain't changing.

So I am fine unabashedly supporting him if anything to counter those who cannot stand to say one ******* positive thing about him. Particular in response to those who never say a positive thing about anything.

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The criticisms are fair, whether you agree or not. But then again, of course you're predisposed to think they aren't.

Again, you being the arbiter of what is and isn't fair criticism is funnier than some of the prime tweets we've all seen today.

You just set up an "argument" in which the only logical conclusion is Trump can never be criticized because that criticism is obviously coming from a place of bad faith, according to you of course. Its a completely circular premise. It's ******ed. And I mean that in the most classical sense of the word.

Btw, I said literally today Trump did great on the border. People in cults such as yourself very often struggle with the idea that you can judge individual policies on their own merit.

You have no coherent principles outside of Trump has to be right and and anyone who disagrees only does so because they have super secret ill motives.

Again, please excuse my "disloyalty".

Same people with a supermajority in the government who truly could do everything they have talked about for months if they wanted to. Those people get excuses?

Lil X the real victim in all this.

flown-the-coop said:

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Jet White said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Cougar11 said:

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Jesus some of you on this board not even 6 months into Trump's presidency and crying and whining is hilarious! You think he can just steamroll his agenda through congress let alone fight the whole judiciary at the same time?

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If he had completed his agenda in 130 days they would have called him a tyrant, dictator, king, how dare he, doesn't he know we have 3 branches of government?

Again, head over on a Saturday to the Zoo or the Xtra Zoo and it's always the same. Monday morning awning, Mensa meeting about what they would have done, how they never supported the coaching hire, how the other guy (Coach DeSantis) would have been better.

It's very easy for a lot of folks to scream about what they would do when they would be scared ****less if things happened as they called for.

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This "logic" quite literally sets up a scenario where Trump can't be fairly criticized regardless of what he does or doesn't do.

How intellectually honest. What a laughably ridiculous premise.

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When you start fairly criticizing ANYTHING then we can discuss.

You quite literally **** on everything but your own opinion. That's fine, but it's not a discussion.

Trump does plenty to be critical about. Could he have been more vocal on demanding cuts? Maybe, but there is a calculus as to what is negotiated in public v private. BTW- you only get to see the carefully crafted public part.

Do I wish Trump would put his head down and just do the work. Of course, but that's not him and any 80 he ain't changing.

So I am fine unabashedly supporting him if anything to counter those who cannot stand to say one ******* positive thing about him. Particular in response to those who never say a positive thing about anything.

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Today is the "carefully crafted public part"?

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see for example, the gripper two posts below yours)

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I wouid NEVER vote for Trump if he was as Epstein Island.

But pervert Trump is still better than Godless BJ Queen Harris or Daughter Showering Biden!

So quit acting like you are holy.

🚨 What is the biggest factor, or Real Reason behind the Trump/Musk Fracas?

— GnosisWolf (@GnosisWolf) June 6, 2025

Today was Elon having a mental break.

I don't think Elon sat down and read 1,100 pages and decided to have a fit on his social platform.

His early tweets were fine criticism. Disloyal to it on X vs direct as he knows the stakes, but the basis is in the realm of reality.

Then he did what Trump is known for, having verbal Ebola level diarrhea on social media. Was / is not a good look.

pic.twitter.com/nnVb0v1QuI

— Bjorn Pagen (@bjornpagen) June 5, 2025

FWTXAg said:

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Teslag said:

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FWTXAg said:

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This forum owes BigRobSA an apology. Trump is just another member of the ruling class, same as he always was.

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I don't care what he is. I care that he's not a democrat.

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That's awesome bud. That's why our Country is in the mess that it is in. You and MAGA are fighting the loony left missing the forest for the trees while 85% of America, the productive working class, is getting shafted and the greatest Country history has even known is devolving into the next Roman Republic. Keep up the good fight.

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I'm not maga. I'm anti democrat anti Marxist trash

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Teslag said:

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BBRex said:

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Teslag said:

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FWTXAg said:

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This forum owes BigRobSA an apology. Trump is just another member of the ruling class, same as he always was.

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I don't care what he is. I care that he's not a democrat.

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I got bad news for you …

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Trump had the (R), Kamala was the (D). Ergo, that's all that matters

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Are you really saying that party affiliation was the only difference between Trump/Vance and Harris/Walz?

Today would look the same in every policy aspect regardless of the outcome of the election?

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Im saying I'll never vote for a democrat no matter who runs as a republican

If only we could have somehow seen this coming. Like maybe if there were warning signs... maybe past behavior to go off of.

today is a great day for the chronically online sickos, of which I consider myself to be a proud member

— Jamie (@jlew8) June 5, 2025

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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🚨 What is the biggest factor, or Real Reason behind the Trump/Musk Fracas?

— GnosisWolf (@GnosisWolf) June 6, 2025

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It was long ago shown Trump is mentioned in the Epstein files. What hasn't been shown is Trump messing around with young girls or going to the island. Thus this is a laughable idea of a lawsuit on about a dozen fronts and anyone saying it will be a legal matter of consequence shouldn't be taken seriously.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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🚨 What is the biggest factor, or Real Reason behind the Trump/Musk Fracas?

— GnosisWolf (@GnosisWolf) June 6, 2025

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Chris cuomo ?

aggie93 said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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🚨 What is the biggest factor, or Real Reason behind the Trump/Musk Fracas?

— GnosisWolf (@GnosisWolf) June 6, 2025

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It was long ago shown Trump is mentioned in the Epstein files. What hasn't been shown is Trump messing around with young girls or going to the island. Thus this is a laughable idea of a lawsuit on about a dozen fronts and anyone saying it will be a legal matter of consequence shouldn't be taken seriously.

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Oh, and Trump deciding to escalate this war with Elon is the dumbest political move he has ever made outside of Covid. Literally nothing to win here, it's only going to hurt him. Elon is simply not someone to trifle with because he doesn't care about money or what people think of he is one of the few personalities that command as much attention as Trump. Making him into an enemy is lunacy.

Well since the Constitution doesn't matter anymore.

Elon for President.

Elon has already said they need to move on. I think it's a flash in the pan for MSM.

My crystal ball is for 4D chess for the midterms:

Trump goes center with tax cuts but has to allow big spending pork knowing he can't get both, he opts for the tax cut.

Elon pumps the "we need to curb the president by voting in more conservatives and primarying RINOs or the country is doomed".

Left has only petty things to whine about and no winds to sail on - nothing to rally around.

The "far right" rallies around the mid-terms to put in fiscal responsibility; which Trump was for anyways just not prioritized over tax cuts (campaign promise).

Trump and Elon "reconcile" after mid terms.

You should probably get your money back from the Gypsy/Roma who sold you that crystal ball while you were on a bender.

Got back from Vegas tonight to all this.

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double aught said:

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Does this mean that liberals will allow each other to buy Teslas again?

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Musk has managed to piss off liberals and now hardcore MAGA.

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Sounds like he's doing something right. Both those groups of people are sh/tstains.

24 pages in 11 hours?!

I wish Biden were alive to see this

— gianmarco (@GianmarcoSoresi) June 5, 2025

It would not surprise me to learn that this is at least semi manufactured. Musk torched his reputation with Tesla's biggest customer base (affluent liberals), and MAGA rednecks didn't buy cyber trucks in large enough numbers to offset those losses, so something had to change or the future of the company was at stake. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that he two biggest trolls on earth cooked up a fake feud as a backup.

That said, the bill still is awful.

Deputy Travis Junior said:

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It would not surprise me to learn that this is at least semi manufactured. Musk torched his reputation with Tesla's biggest customer base (affluent liberals), and MAGA rednecks didn't buy cyber trucks in large enough numbers to offset those losses, so something had to change or the future of the company was at stake. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that he two biggest trolls on earth cooked up a fake feud as a backup.

That said, the bill still is awful.

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lol it was fun for a while...

BREAKING: Trump White House schedules call with Elon Musk tomorrow.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) June 6, 2025

I'm guessing Elon is going to say during the call

So weird this happened during the Biden scandal'.

I love Elon and am grateful for all he did, but I gotta go with my president. He's the only thing keeping us from full blown leftism.

The D said:

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So weird this happened during the Biden scandal'.

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Crazy how Trump & Musk waited to do this to take attention away from the Biden scandal.



Kidding aside, was a wild day, but will soon blow over. Not a hugevdeal in the grand scheme of things.