Trump Elon feud

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12:00p, 6/5/25
This thing is blowing up now.





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TarponChaser
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12:01p, 6/5/25
Elon's not wrong about this.

And nor is he wrong about the charlie-foxtrot that is the "OBBB."
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12:02p, 6/5/25
Saw it coming the minute Musk trashed something Trump supported.
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Daddy-O5
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12:03p, 6/5/25


Elon's right of course. Bad Trump
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12:04p, 6/5/25
The most surprising part of this is that these two got together in the first place.

Two egomaniacs in close proximity is not a great recipe for friendship
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12:04p, 6/5/25
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12:04p, 6/5/25
edit: beat me to it
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12:04p, 6/5/25
He also not right about the OBBB.

Revisions can't happen in Reconciliation. DOGE cuts fall there.

Spending is rear loaded, but cuts in Reconciliation have to come from mandatory spending - IE - entitlements. You're not getting major reforms to any of them there.

Almost all the spending in OBBB comes from tax cut extensions.

It's not a perfect bill, but the economy would tank with a $4T tax increase on every American except upper-middle class professionals in Blue States.
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12:05p, 6/5/25
There is always a Tweet!


I'm Gipper
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In reply to 4 • 12:06p, 6/5/25
4 said:
The most surprising part of this is that these two got together in the first place.

Two egomaniacs in close proximity is not a great recipe for friendship


Oh yeah, it was destined to fall apart from the get go.
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12:08p, 6/5/25
Wouldn't surprise me if this was manufactured, a form of controlled, scripted opposition. It is war with the dims (and some repubs) and the MSM. This is what I would do in a war. Keep your enemy completely misinformed and distracted by things that aren't true. Especially the MSM. They are giddy with this "feud".
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In reply to Logos Stick • 12:08p, 6/5/25
Logos Stick said:
4 said:
The most surprising part of this is that these two got together in the first place.

Two egomaniacs in close proximity is not a great recipe for friendship


Oh yeah, it was destined to fall apart from the get go.


Looks like I picked a good time to stock up on popcorn.
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In reply to Daddy-O5 • 12:08p, 6/5/25
Daddy-O5 said:


Elon's right of course. Bad Trump


Trump was lying / manipulating his followers. Wow! Would have never thought possible!
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12:08p, 6/5/25

This was predicted by everyone.
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tysker
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12:09p, 6/5/25
Wait, Trump is an unprincipled BSing hypocrite who talks out of both sides of his mouth? Since when?
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12:10p, 6/5/25
Elon taking credit for Trump's electoral victory is a bit much. There is even debate if it helped, much less that he deserves credit for it.

I said yesterday I didn't think Elon was being petty, but it seems I am wrong. He is being petty.

Like Trump, he has valid points but the childish elaboration undermines those points.

None of this banter is productive, from either side.
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Krombopulos Michael
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12:11p, 6/5/25
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12:11p, 6/5/25
Gee, I wonder which one is going to utilize substantive arguments (agree or disagree) and which one is going to utilize ad hominem insults?
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In reply to Daddy-O5 • 12:12p, 6/5/25
Daddy-O5 said:

Why would it be shown to Elon?

Last time I checked, he's nowhere in the chain of lawmaking.

, and he's not a member of Congress.

He was hired by the executive branch as a consultant for a very specific, narrow job definition.

Why would he expect to be shown a copy of a bill being sent to congress? Maybe I should ask to be shown all bills before they are voted on, as well?
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In reply to Jet White • 12:13p, 6/5/25
Jet White said:
Gee, I wonder which one is going to utilize substantive arguments (agree or disagree) and which one is going to utilize ad hominem insults?
For the adhoms, so far its Musk. Surprised?
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Krombopulos Michael
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12:15p, 6/5/25
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In reply to Max Stonetrail • 12:15p, 6/5/25
Max Stonetrail said:
Wouldn't surprise me if this was manufactured, a form of controlled, scripted opposition. It is war with the dims (and some repubs) and the MSM. This is what I would do in a war. Keep your enemy completely misinformed and distracted by things that aren't true. Especially the MSM. They are giddy with this "feud".

I completely agree with this assessment. Just look at Trump's connections with the wrestling business -
(1) Create a dramatic conflict / fight between 2 personalities
(2) Control the narrative, define who is right and who is wrong
.. one or the other might win, but the REAL winner is the wrestling organization.

Or - hopefully in this case - our country.
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In reply to 4 • 12:16p, 6/5/25
4 said:
Daddy-O5 said:

Why would it be shown to Elon?

Last time I checked, he's nowhere in the chain of lawmaking.

, and he's not a member of Congress.

He was hired by the executive branch as a consultant for a very specific, narrow job definition.

Why would he expect to be shown a copy of a bill being sent to congress? Maybe I should ask to be shown all bills before they are voted on, as well?
Correct. Elon is free to speak his mind on this but overall its being hugely disloyal to Trump.

He was not brought in to set policy. He was brought in to setup and run DOGE for 130 days. Seems he thought his role was bigger and its hurt his ego.
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In reply to 4 • 12:17p, 6/5/25
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Maybe I should ask to be shown all bills before they are voted on, as well?
Now we're talking!

But maybe you think it's better if the bill gets passed before we know what's in
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In reply to Hondo, • 12:18p, 6/5/25
plus, all of these politico fans passionate about "their side" winning don't realize that behind closed doors, they are all on the same team
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Krombopulos Michael
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12:18p, 6/5/25
Trump is praying for Putin to respond in a big way to that drone/bomber strike right now........


He's got to change this narrative in a hurry.

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In reply to flown-the-coop • 12:19p, 6/5/25
100%.

Elon's ego can't handle not being top dog and making all the decisions.

Neither can Trump, but Trump won an election and earned the right.
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In reply to 4 • 12:19p, 6/5/25
4 said:
Daddy-O5 said:

Why would it be shown to Elon?

Last time I checked, he's nowhere in the chain of lawmaking.

, and he's not a member of Congress.

He was hired by the executive branch as a consultant for a very specific, narrow job definition.

Why would he expect to be shown a copy of a bill being sent to congress? Maybe I should ask to be shown all bills before they are voted on, as well?
I'm not claiming it should have. However, Trump himself claimed he (Musk) knew the "inner workings of the bill" well. Elon refuted that point.
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12:19p, 6/5/25
This relationship was one of the best things to ever happen for Republicans and they are blowing the damn thing up. Terrific.

So dumb.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 12:19p, 6/5/25
flown-the-coop said:
4 said:
Daddy-O5 said:

Why would it be shown to Elon?

Last time I checked, he's nowhere in the chain of lawmaking.

, and he's not a member of Congress.

He was hired by the executive branch as a consultant for a very specific, narrow job definition.

Why would he expect to be shown a copy of a bill being sent to congress? Maybe I should ask to be shown all bills before they are voted on, as well?
Correct. Elon is free to speak his mind on this but overall its being hugely disloyal to Trump.

He was not brought in to set policy. He was brought in to setup and run DOGE for 130 days. Seems he thought his role was bigger and its hurt his ego.


This is the voter Trump was talking about with his "I could shoot somebody in broad daylight" comment.

Elon produces tweet after tweet after tweet of Trump doing complete 180s on himself and Trump instill winning the argument.

This is what cult thinking looks like.
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In reply to Drahknor03 • 12:20p, 6/5/25
Drahknor03 said:
Almost all the spending in OBBB comes from tax cut extensions.
What the hell does this mean? Do you work for the OMB? Because that is completely illogical.
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12:20p, 6/5/25
Who cares? More distraction BS. Elon can go back to doing Elon things. Swamp is too big for him (and us). We fooked before and after DOGE anyhow.
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12:20p, 6/5/25
Elon is right here, but I hope the feud does out quickly before it bounces ball right back into the hands of Democrats.

Both parties intend to bankrupt the country, but Dems also plan to make it socially awful and violent while traveling the road to bankruptcy.
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12:20p, 6/5/25
Ugh. Stuff like this is why I was hoping DeSantis would win the nomination. I gladly voted for Trump, but he's just grown increasingly chaotic since 2020. He'll do something great, and then deliberately shoot himself in the foot right after. We'll get a much, much better 4 years than Harris/Biden regardless, but we need 4 years of non stop winning to stop this ship from sinking.
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