Trump Elon feud

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nortex97
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Is this all related to the NSC and the forever-war complex fighting back?

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This is a good theory. Elon said on Rogan that he uncovered corruption that would get him killed. Defense spending is the most obvious target for eliminating waste and graft.
Phatbob
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ts5641 said:

I love Elon and am grateful for all he did, but I gotta go with my president. He's the only thing keeping us from full blown leftism.


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Spaceship
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TyHolden said:

lol it was fun for a while...




MouthBQ98
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It is purposeful. It serves Elon's business purposes to appear to be against Trump now, and it serves Trump to have a foil to use as a distraction.
nortex97
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I laughed.
Burpelson
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You can sling a cat in any direction and hit a sucker in DJT mind. Elon destroyed his reputation and Tesla brand for DJT.
FTAG 2000
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nortex97 said:

Is this all related to the NSC and the forever-war complex fighting back?

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This is a good theory. Elon said on Rogan that he uncovered corruption that would get him killed. Defense spending is the most obvious target for eliminating waste and graft.




It's not a he, it's a she.
Loquacious Lunchbox
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infinity ag
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It did appear that Elon was licking Trump's boots at that time.
And now the sudden U turn.
samurai_science
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Burpelson said:

You can sling a cat in any direction and hit a sucker in DJT mind. Elon destroyed his reputation and Tesla brand for DJT.
Maybe, maybe not, but in the end, who cares? Trump won and free speech has returned (for now), thats all that matters. Now on to the next election.
Bondag
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We all knew Elon's time was limited. Is this a way to get everything out on twitter to see where voters stand on this bill? It passed the house, but still has to go through senate then be reconciled.

I listen to Ted Cruz on he way into work to get his thoughts on it. He explained it that the 50th Republican senator is well to the right of the 218th Republican house member. So the senate may be able to present more cuts then get them passed in reconciliation process to get to the final bill.

He was in the Oval Office and said Trump was mad so who knows

Ted Cruz Podcast


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  • Elon Musk vs. Donald Trump Feud
    The episode opens with a detailed discussion of the public spat between Elon Musk and Donald Trump, described as a painful clash between two influential figures. Cruz, who claims personal friendships with both, expresses hope for reconciliation, emphasizing their shared love for America and the importance of unity against liberal opposition.
  • The "Big, Bold, Beautiful Bill"
    The hosts delve into a major legislative package aimed at fulfilling conservative priorities such as border security, military rebuilding, energy independence, and tax cuts. Cruz outlines the Senate's plan to revise the House version of the bill, aiming for deeper spending cuts and stronger fiscal conservatism.

Stonegateag85
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Until Elon does some more ketamine.
JohnClark929
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I didn't vote for Trump but he won the election. He is the POTUS; Musk seems to think his money matters more, it doesn't. And the EV tax credit, among other government interventions to Musk businesses, should end.
Who?mikejones!
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Burpelson said:

You can sling a cat in any direction and hit a sucker in DJT mind. Elon destroyed his reputation and Tesla brand for DJT.


Lolz. Tesla will be fine.

Its funny you say Elon destroyed it when it was the fumb liberals throwing a hissy fit. Still the dumbest thing of this year
Who?mikejones!
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Musk asked for it to end a decade ago
FireAg
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Sounds like Musk is doing some crawfishin' this morning…

Not sure his tantrum played out the way he thought it would…

Already done a 180 on the SpaceX threats…and supposedly trying to get with Trump aides to cool things down…
Muy
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Wait, 2 American business titans have egos and don't agree on everything?
Tailgate88
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I am a big fan of both men, but they have both played this situation horribly.
Jeeper79
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FireAg said:

Sounds like Musk is doing some crawfishin' this morning…

Not sure his tantrum played out the way he thought it would…

Already done a 180 on the SpaceX threats…and supposedly trying to get with Trump aides to cool things down…
source?
infinity ag
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Typical CEO behavior. They did not get what they wanted, so they set fire to everything and destroyed it all.
FireAg
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Umm…the top two stories currently on FoxNews.com…

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/elon-musk-may-speak-trump-aides-push-calm-feud

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/musk-swiftly-backpedals-after-declaring-amid-trump-feud-spacex-start-decommissioning-dragon
infinity ag
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This fight is a loss for MAGA but Elon is a fool to fight with the President who can often be vindictive. If he disagreed, just distance and move on. Insulting Trump on Twitter is just stupid. So much for his intelligence. Lacks maturity. I wonder how people like this have big achievements and get so rich. The secret to mega success must be something else.

Trump isn't mature either, twitter is a WMD in the hands of people like this who cannot shut up.
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infinity ag said:

Typical CEO behavior. They did not get what they wanted, so they set fire to everything and destroyed it all.


You are exhausting.
Jeeper79
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FireAg said:

Umm…the top two stories currently on FoxNews.com…

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/elon-musk-may-speak-trump-aides-push-calm-feud

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/musk-swiftly-backpedals-after-declaring-amid-trump-feud-spacex-start-decommissioning-dragon
thanks
Pumpkinhead
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Trump can hurt Musk and say mean things all he wants, but if Trump were to actually cancel govt contracts such as the one with Starlink to upgrade FAA systems for air traffic control, or that damage our space program, then Trump will have gone off the cliff way too far. Be petty and lash out all you want, but don't do anything that actually affects core technology and work that is very important to our country.
4stringAg
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Tailgate88 said:

I am a big fan of both men, but they have both played this situation horribly.
X 1000.

While it was entirely predictable given the egos involved, its also highly disappointing. Get behind closed doors, work the problem out and get a plan together and get it done. People voted for Trump not just because of border security, energy independence and tax cuts, but ALSO for the DOGE efforts and Elon's involvement.

But its really disappointing the way Republicans, even while the Dems are floundering and weak and Biden's regime is being exposed daily, find a way to step on their own dicks and kill momentum for themselves. Two billionaire children fighting it out on their social media platforms and going below the belt, while on some level comical and predictable, is just ****ing sad and idiotic and accomplishes nothing but giving the media and leftists jerkoff material.
Im Gipper
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Did you read the first story you linked? It says:


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A senior White House official told Fox News that Trump does not expect to speak to Musk today. However, White House aides told Doocy that Trump administration staffers might try to talk to Musk
How is White House staff trying to talk to Musk show that Musk is crawfishing?


I think you are going find "cooler heads prevail" with both gentlemen today. Is Trump still talking about cancelling Musk's contracts? No. Does that mean Trump is crawfishing?


I'm Gipper
FrioAg 00
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He's actually moving a little slow, not making this about those sneaky CEOs until Day 2 of this dust up.

Off your game Infinity
Hullabaloonatic
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Gordo14 said:

GreasenUSA said:

Gordo14 said:

I love how this thread basically got to the point where people are basically saying "even if Trump is a Pedophile, I'm glad he beat the Democrats". If nothing it highlights just how far right wing internet culture has strayed from anything they claim to value in his name. MaoGA
literally nobody in this thread has said that


Oh please…. Obviously I am paraphrasing. But there has been a lot of "but the Democrats are so much worse" posted in here (see for example, the gripper two posts below yours) since Elon accused Trump of being in the Epstein files. Not that that should even be surprising to anybody because there's very damning circumstantial evidence that suggests there is a very reasonable chance the Trump did have a damning if not criminal relationship with Epstein. Flew on his PJ many times. Videos of him partying with Epstein. Talking to the media about his parties with Epstein and how Epstein likes notably "young" women. And that's before we really get into Trump's sexual proclivity toward both adultry and borderline rape/assault behavior (access Hollywood, Trump talking about how likes to walk into the changing room at Beauty Pageants). But MaoGA does not care because "it would be worse if a Democrat won", right. I mean how much worse. Obviously reality is no match for your imagination. It probably was the choice between a very possible pedophile and the collapse of America, right.

If I had a nickel every time I read some fanfic about how Trump threw out Epstein from Mar-a-lago when he found out he was a pedophile…. As if Trump ever gave a **** about morality when it comes to sex. Let's be honest, even if the "Epstein files" had been released with actual credible evidence and accusations and Biden was president. The terminally online right would reject it as lies and fake anyways.
It's pretty remarkable. Like, setting aside all the moral and ethical issues Trump has publicly ADMITTED to or been CONVICTED of, the ability for MAGA to handwave the open corruption and self serving whims of this administration is astounding.

Trump closed the border; congrats. I hope that materially benefitted people here because everything else he's done will not. In fact, it'll prolly hurt most people who voted for him. He's done nothing to fight inflation, the budget deficit, or wealth inequality. He's quite literally exacerbated those problems and is looking to pass a bill that would be the largest transfer of wealth from the bottom 1/3 of Americans to the top 10%. The Republicans only have 18 months left of a house/senate majority and right now their primary legislative focus is funding a tax cut for the wealthy. This is going to go exactly like his 1st term where 90% of Trump's 'accomplishments' will be through temporary executive orders because his moronic administration can't actually govern through the legislative branch. But you'll be damn sure that's not until after he weaponizes his position to prop his personal bank account, businesses, and oligarch buddies.

But at least a democrat didn't win so TeslaAg and every other MAGA person here can comfortably turn their brain off and ignore the insanity that is plaguing the nation because the imagined alternative would have been much worse.
Hullabaloonatic
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infinity ag said:

This fight is a loss for MAGA but Elon is a fool to fight with the President who can often be vindictive. If he disagreed, just distance and move on. Insulting Trump on Twitter is just stupid. So much for his intelligence. Lacks maturity. I wonder how people like this have big achievements and get so rich. The secret to mega success must be something else.

Trump isn't mature either, twitter is a WMD in the hands of people like this who cannot shut up.
They're both literally infantilized and emotionally stunted men taking snipes at each other from their own personal social media platforms. There's no grown up in this. It's the fragile egos of weak men at work.
nortex97
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Have 'the Jews' been blamed yet, outside of some memes for this dust up? Fake news liar Kommie Karl apparently says Trump doesn't want to talk to Elon.
TRM
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infinity ag said:

This fight is a loss for MAGA but Elon is a fool to fight with the President who can often be vindictive. If he disagreed, just distance and move on. Insulting Trump on Twitter is just stupid. So much for his intelligence. Lacks maturity. I wonder how people like this have big achievements and get so rich. The secret to mega success must be something else.

Trump isn't mature either, twitter is a WMD in the hands of people like this who cannot shut up.
Elon could go back to shadowbanning some of Trump's biggest twitter mouthpieces and limiting their reach. Allegedly, there are bots that amplify their reach and Elon could shut them down as well limiting POTUS's positive exposure.
Charpie
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Musk isn't stupid. Him cancelling the SpaceX stuff impacts real people and hurts those folks who are up in space right now. I totally see why he changed his mind.
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Hullabaloonatic said:

infinity ag said:

This fight is a loss for MAGA but Elon is a fool to fight with the President who can often be vindictive. If he disagreed, just distance and move on. Insulting Trump on Twitter is just stupid. So much for his intelligence. Lacks maturity. I wonder how people like this have big achievements and get so rich. The secret to mega success must be something else.

Trump isn't mature either, twitter is a WMD in the hands of people like this who cannot shut up.
They're both literally infantilized and emotionally stunted men taking snipes at each other from their own personal social media platforms. There's no grown up in this. It's the fragile egos of weak men at work.


From the party of George Clooney is fearful, Rosie ODonnel moved to Ireland, Kimmel cries daily, Biden still wants to physically fight Trump, and James Carville is nearing end stage dementia.

But yea, Trump and Elon having a pissing match is just too much.
Pumpkinhead
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My own grades on Trump thus far:

1) Border: A
2) Culture Wars (e.g., reversing DEI trends that had gone too far): A
3) Economy: Incomplete (I am still in wait and see mode and anything from A to F seems possible)
4) Foreign Policy: F - I am not at all convinced Trump or his administration have a well thought out strategy RE Russia/Ukraine, the Gaza problem, maintaining strong relationships with allies, etc..
5) Entertainment: A - Always been a Trump strong point
 
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