I believe The Court exercised jurisdiction over the Texas lawsuit but tossed it for lack of standing by Texas. But also irrelevant to this thread so I digress

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Most of what the Supreme Court does is based on their Appellate Jurisdiction. Out of curiosity, is there any form of jurisdiction other than Original Jurisdiction and Appellate Jurisdiction?

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That's the most common but can also have exclusive jurisdiction, i.e. the only court that can hear a particular case or concurrent jurisiction where other courts can hear a case. As a practical matter, since the Court can pick and choose which cases they grant cert on, even where they have original and exclusive jurisdiction (such as the 2020 election case between Texas and other states) they can still refuse to exercise it.

They are not final beause they are infallible, they are infallible because they are final as the old saying goes.

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Thanks.

I had thought that where the Supreme Court held original jurisdiction, it was also exclusive jurisdiction.

After reading that, I was curious about when the Supreme Court has both original jurisdiction and exclusive jurisdiction. From a google search, that appears to only involve disputes between states.

So if there is a dispute between states, is it mandatory that the Supreme Court accept the case or can they turn it down and leave the states with no way to settle the dispute through the legal system?

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So if there is a dispute between states, is it mandatory that the Supreme Court accept the case or can they turn it down and leave the states with no way to settle the dispute through the legal system?

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They can turn it down. As they did in the Texas 2020 election case.

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So if there is a dispute between states, is it mandatory that the Supreme Court accept the case or can they turn it down and leave the states with no way to settle the dispute through the legal system?

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They can turn it down. As they did in the Texas 2020 election case.

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Wasn't that because they found that Texas did not have standing in the case?

No standing

That is some bs

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So if there is a dispute between states, is it mandatory that the Supreme Court accept the case or can they turn it down and leave the states with no way to settle the dispute through the legal system?

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They can turn it down. As they did in the Texas 2020 election case.

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Wasn't that because they found that Texas did not have standing in the case?

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Yeah. The Court exercised its jurisdiction. But said Texas didn't have standing because it doesn't have a legally cognizable interest in another state's election.

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No standing

That is some bs

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So every state should be able to file suit against any other state because they don't like how that state did something and actually have the case heard?

I take it that you don't believe in state's rights?

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So if there is a dispute between states, is it mandatory that the Supreme Court accept the case or can they turn it down and leave the states with no way to settle the dispute through the legal system?

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They can turn it down. As they did in the Texas 2020 election case.

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Wasn't that because they found that Texas did not have standing in the case?

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Fig leaf. Bottom line is all disputes between states have exclusive and original jurisdiction in SCOTUS. So when they turned it down, there was no remedy anywhere else. Spectacular fail by the Court, in my view.

One of several by SCOTUS regarding the 2020 election. The other being Alito backing down in PA and allowing the Sec of State to violate court orders with impunity and counting late ballots and not segregating them as ordered by the Court (through Alito the supervising justice for that judicial district.)

Just a travesty all around and a sad day for our judiciary, fearing mob reprisals and rioting.

Called it... https://t.co/BqM8pjL5FS pic.twitter.com/uEuSwHr8Ml

— Matt Beebe (@TheMattBeebe) August 16, 2023

Spied on him the first time and nothing happened. Why not do it again.

Trump also guesstimates it will take him 4-6 weeks to present his defense, same estimate as prosecution, which means we're looking at a very roughly estimated 14-week trial, when you factor in jury selection. https://t.co/WLyWQsdQ1L pic.twitter.com/urHndTVAMR

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 17, 2023

So geofencing works again, now?

They need to make up their minds. 2000 Mules? Geofencing doesn't work, not narrow enough to pinpoint locations, uber and taxi drivers, garbage trucks.

Jan 6th protesters? It works! We get warrants solely due to those..

Covid contact tracing? It works!

Finding out if Joe Biden was sitting next to Hunter when he sent that threatening Whats App message extorting payoffs? Not working, don't even bother to look.

Whether Trump was in the WH bathroom or bathroom at MAL when he retweeted something? It works again!

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So geofencing works again, now?

They need to make up their minds. 2000 Mules? Geofencing doesn't work, not narrow enough to pinpoint locations, uber and taxi drivers, garbage trucks.

Jan 6th protesters? It works! We get warrants solely due to those..

Covid contact tracing? It works!

Finding out if Joe Biden was sitting next to Hunter when he sent that threatening Whats App message extorting payoffs? Not working, don't even bother to look.

Whether Trump was in the WH bathroom or bathroom at MAL when he retweeted something? It works again!

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You really want us to believe that you can't understand why cell phone location technology can be used to locate within 2500 miles is useless to locate within 250 feet? I know lawyers aren't supposed to understand hard sciences, but come on, man!

Tell me you've never purchased geofenced locations for advertising and don't understand their accuracy without admitting you don't understand their accuracy....

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Tell me you've never purchased geofenced locations for advertising and don't understand their accuracy without admitting you don't understand their accuracy....

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I haven't purchased geofenced locations for advertising, but I like to believe that I have some understanding how they collect their data. I doubt the methods used by PV are the same used by the advertising companies.

I also doubt that ms. hawg has purchased geofenced locations for advertising, so I am not sure what your point is.

The point is that your "2500 mile" explanation is bull***** Technology exist to be much more accurate with cell phone location... but apparently that's only used when convenient.

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So geofencing works again, now?

They need to make up their minds. 2000 Mules? Geofencing doesn't work, not narrow enough to pinpoint locations, uber and taxi drivers, garbage trucks.

Jan 6th protesters? It works! We get warrants solely due to those..

Covid contact tracing? It works!

Finding out if Joe Biden was sitting next to Hunter when he sent that threatening Whats App message extorting payoffs? Not working, don't even bother to look.

Whether Trump was in the WH bathroom or bathroom at MAL when he retweeted something? It works again!

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You really want us to believe that you can't understand why cell phone location technology can be used to locate within 2500 miles is useless to locate within 250 feet? I know lawyers aren't supposed to understand hard sciences, but come on, man!

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Everyone here knows my bona fides.

Post yours. How many degrees you have and in what? How many states in which you have passed the bar and took more tests to be licensed in federal courts? Your vitae curriculae would be helpful here.

TIA.

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The point is that your "2500 mile" explanation is bull***** Technology exist to be much more accurate with cell phone location... but apparently that's only used when convenient.

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Whether Trump was in the WH bathroom or bathroom at MAL when he retweeted something? It works again!

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I guess that is based on bull*****

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So geofencing works again, now?

They need to make up their minds. 2000 Mules? Geofencing doesn't work, not narrow enough to pinpoint locations, uber and taxi drivers, garbage trucks.

Jan 6th protesters? It works! We get warrants solely due to those..

Covid contact tracing? It works!

Finding out if Joe Biden was sitting next to Hunter when he sent that threatening Whats App message extorting payoffs? Not working, don't even bother to look.

Whether Trump was in the WH bathroom or bathroom at MAL when he retweeted something? It works again!

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You really want us to believe that you can't understand why cell phone location technology can be used to locate within 2500 miles is useless to locate within 250 feet? I know lawyers aren't supposed to understand hard sciences, but come on, man!

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Everyone here knows my bona fides.

Post yours. How many degrees you have and in what? How many states in which you have passed the bar and took more tests to be licensed in federal courts? Your vitae curriculae would be helpful here.

TIA.

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You don't have to believe a thing I post. Much like I believe very little of what you post.

You're welcome.

America hating communists giddy with excitement about destroying this thing with reckless abandon only trust cell phone gps accuracy when it's (d)ifferent like when it involves imprisoning j6 selfie takers or imprisoning trump for location when tweeting. Obviously cellphone gps tracking when stuffing insecure ballot drop boxes without surveillance at least ten times, it might have been an Uber driver and gps can't be trusted.

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So geofencing works again, now?

They need to make up their minds. 2000 Mules? Geofencing doesn't work, not narrow enough to pinpoint locations, uber and taxi drivers, garbage trucks.

Jan 6th protesters? It works! We get warrants solely due to those..

Covid contact tracing? It works!

Finding out if Joe Biden was sitting next to Hunter when he sent that threatening Whats App message extorting payoffs? Not working, don't even bother to look.

Whether Trump was in the WH bathroom or bathroom at MAL when he retweeted something? It works again!

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You really want us to believe that you can't understand why cell phone location technology can be used to locate within 2500 miles is useless to locate within 250 feet? I know lawyers aren't supposed to understand hard sciences, but come on, man!

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Everyone here knows my bona fides.

Post yours. How many degrees you have and in what? How many states in which you have passed the bar and took more tests to be licensed in federal courts? Your vitae curriculae would be helpful here.

TIA.

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Tests for federal bar admission? You don't take tests. You pay a fee, you find a sponsor, you provide your state bar information. You get admitted.

Vitae curriculae? Curriculum vitae, perhaps?

For context re 11 million pages of discovery and setting a trial date.

Assume Defendant X -- a former senior Govt official -- could not afford counsel and counsel was appointed for him under the CJA (Criminal Justice Act).

That counsel has to follow certain standards in…

— Shipwreckedcrew (@shipwreckedcrew) August 18, 2023

This is January 6 prisoner Ryan Samsel, seen here in the closet room he was held in for 5 months.

He has been held in prison IN ISOLATION since January 2021.

During that time he has been moved around to 17 different facilities.

He has been beaten, abused, tortured, and… pic.twitter.com/j8xD3GYLtJ

— Joey Meugniot (@realjoeymUS) August 17, 2023

Update: Neither Trump, nor any major party politicians have said a word about the abuse of J6 prisoners in DC's uniparty gulags.

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Many don't even require a sponsor. Never heard of a test for federal bar admission.

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Many don't even require a sponsor. Never heard of a test for federal bar admission.

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There's no such thing. But, it's funny how people hang on every word of a certain poster regarding trial issues. Especially since that person didn't try cases.

Ryan told The Gateway Pundit in a conversation this week, "I was kept in … a hard cell. And in that particular cell about five, six months. I even told you what was happening is the judge was actually calling, trying to get in contact with me because I wasn't in a named cell. They were missing me and they were saying I wasn't showing up to court. They were saying I wasn't showing up to medical. But they were pretty much keeping me in there… Like I said, it was cold, the light was on, there's zero window. And that followed me from Virginia. When I was in Virginia, it was the same exact conditions."



This guy had the audacity to be mad about the "most secure election ever" and demonstrated. Damn near overthrew the US government without a weapon!!! If only he had chosen to burn buildings or loot stores in the name of a dead drug addict criminal, things would be (d)ifferent for him.

Well, that's his side of the story.

Special Counsel Jack Smith repeats his demands for Trump to go to trial in DC on December 11 -

He calls it a "faulty assertion" that a fair trial requires time for Trump's lawyers to review millions of pages of documents. pic.twitter.com/zEfRg4DZzG

— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) August 21, 2023

Trump raised $35mm in Q2, He could afford doc review on this by December, 10 times over with just that quarter.

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Special Counsel Jack Smith repeats his demands for Trump to go to trial in DC on December 11 -

He calls it a "faulty assertion" that a fair trial requires time for Trump's lawyers to review millions of pages of documents. pic.twitter.com/zEfRg4DZzG

— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) August 21, 2023

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Jack Smith is a jack-booted fascist. He doesn't give a single **** about fairness or the Constitution. And he was not hired to be fair or to seek justice.

As posted one post before yours, trump is raising money on this and had more than enough for a proper doc review and defense.

Judge: "I've seen many cases delayed because the defendant lacks adequate representation. That is not the case here"

TRIAL is MARCH 4, 2024

— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) August 28, 2023

not feasible imo

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This is January 6 prisoner Ryan Samsel, seen here in the closet room he was held in for 5 months.

He has been held in prison IN ISOLATION since January 2021.

During that time he has been moved around to 17 different facilities.

He has been beaten, abused, tortured, and… pic.twitter.com/j8xD3GYLtJ

— Joey Meugniot (@realjoeymUS) August 17, 2023

Update: Neither Trump, nor any major party politicians have said a word about the abuse of J6 prisoners in DC's uniparty gulags.

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Special Housing Units (SHUs) are controversial and used at most jails and prisons in the U.S.

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Trump raised $35mm in Q2, He could afford doc review on this by December, 10 times over with just that quarter.

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Then it really has benefited Trump by owning the libs with his record haul of his merch sales of his mug shot. Seeing as how the sales were meant for his defense, it looks like the money is coming in just in time.

Judge Tanya Chutkan sets the Trump DC case for trial on March 4, 2024.

A potential 6th Am. violation in a case with millions of pages of documents and hundreds of witnesses.

No effective assistance of counsel where there is inadequate time to prepare for trial. pic.twitter.com/aYQPRxc2xX

— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) August 28, 2023