If that's what happens, I wouldn't be upset.

He was raised to be a GL, trained by a GL, has used Hal's ring in the past (sparingly)...and they told him, all he had to do was put it on and say the oath, and he'd be a GL.

Seems like everything needed was already set in motion...other than him opting out previously.

I dont really have an issue with him saying the oath now, and becoming a GL.

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I dont really have an issue with him saying the oath now, and becoming a GL.

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I don't really think that's his intention.

The more I think about it, the more I think it's going to be something along the lines of:

- He uses the Halogram to open that box in the storage unit
- The lantern is in the box along with some kind of recording and/or he otherwise comes across evidence that Hal left a trail of clues for him pointing to some kind of issue with the guardians
- He doesn't necessarily WANT to become a green lantern, but he has to to stop whatever this conspiracy is

But the Guardians (or whoever is in charge of decommissioning rings) not making sure it was completely out of power or whatever is still dumb.

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CharleyKerfeld said:

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bobinator said:

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It's not li

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For example, the majority of the episode titled "The Weenie" contributed nothing to the overall plot and was just a setup for Hal's joke, "Well, I guess we've seen his weenie!".

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I really gotta disagree with that first sentence.

That episode:

Gave the back story of the Manhunters via Sinestro
Made Hal say out loud that John is his replacement
Dangles the idea that if Hal captures the Manhunter, the Guardians will let him stay a lantern
Has Lianna dangle the instant access to becoming GL to John
Exposes who the Manhunter actually is

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I exaggerated a little but not much. What I meant was that the show engineered that whole unnecessary scene and the leadup conversation about Disney calling the non-visible parts his park "The Weenie", just for that one joke. All of the relevant info relayed in that particular episode could have been relayed without that scene, and I think it actually does happen outside of that scene. So, just IMO the whole joke and setup for the joke came across as silly and juvenile in a show that wants to be gritty and mature, and a waste of time in a season that only has 8 episodes.

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It does also establish Johns interest in architecture prior to the 2026 reveal that he becomes on.
Thays the exact sort of thing someone who nerds out about architecture on would know (the Walt Disney structure)

If Laura Linney's character is a Guardian gone rogue, which certainly seems likely given we don't know anyone else who would have broken Sinestro out, she could easily have not really decommissioned the ring, but still made it possible for JS to use it in case she was able to eventually convince him to join her side.

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I'd have bought that if he didn't already tap it on a headstone or whatever to get it to work. If it would have just worked because he has some kind of magical abilities that would be easier to buy into.

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He had to tap the ring on the headstone to access the emergency 5% power reserve.

This is the "unnecessarily convoluted plot" method I came up with in my own head. That somehow someone (or several someones) wanted Guy to get the ring and bring it to John for some reason, but I couldn't come up with a way there that isn't just comically complicated.

I know but that's what I'm saying. For me it would be easier to buy into him having some kind of magical ability to use the ring without it being powered on than the guardians of the universe forgetting to discharge the extra 5%.

From what I've seen a second season of this has not been confirmed yet. So, how much is covered in these last two episodes without it either A) feeling rushed just to complete the story, or B) is left open at the end of episode 8 in the assumption there's a 2nd season.

To me, there's a lot to cram into only 2 more episodes, especially if the 7th episode spends a lot of time on Hal's past.

I'm no screenwriter , and obviously there's still two episodes left to go in the season , but here's how I would have shaped this season.....

Keep the marketing as is and totally play up the entire season as a very earthbound murder mystery. However, that plot line is actually completed by the end of episode four. Not only that, but Hal and John dislike each other, but they've learned some mutual respect for what the other is capable of and part ways at the end of the episode after having taken down the manhunter threat and the mission accomplished. Viewer is left wondering what the heck is gonna happen in the second half of the season.

Episode 5 opens 10 years later and John is a private citizen architect. But suddenly something happens to him personally (mom getting killed?) that he quickly discovers has to do with the events in rushville. Hal shows up on John's doorstep and reveals that he's come across some major clues about a cover up related to the events in Rushviille, and these two realize they're gonna have to work together because no one else believes or cares about this deeper mystery. They interview Sinestro in jail early on in the episode, and the episode ends with them hearing of Sinestro's breakout. The remaining three episodes take place primarily in space as they unravel this mystery that involves Guardian corruption, the manhunter they killed 10 years earlier, the death of john's mom, and Sinestro breaking out of prison.

CharleyKerfeld said:

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Yeah, you're no screenwriter.

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Lol.

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I know but that's what I'm saying. For me it would be easier to buy into him having some kind of magical ability to use the ring without it being powered on than the guardians of the universe forgetting to discharge the extra 5%.

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Feel like we will find out its either intentional by someone that it had 5%

Or they have been around forever and have become too complacent

Well that was a slow burn. I have to say. That was not what I expected to be in the safe in the storage room.

Yeah, what a strange episode. I liked it better than last week's, but strange.

I really liked it. Answered some questions about the Hal construct being a physical presence. More on Hal's background. Opens the door on his death not being a murder. Why Sinestro said to Hal that he should be most afraid of John. And also perhaps a path towards John's training to be a green lantern.

I really liked this episode.

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Kelly Macdonald acted her ass off in that scene in the science lab.

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I don't think I have watched anything with her in it before and she is absolutely a highlight of the series. What a stacked trio between her, Pierre, and Chandler

Also like this John in 2026 that is a little less of a harass and dead pan. The whole scene lying to Hal about the funeral was hilarious.

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I know she is in a lot of shows and movies, but I mostly know her from Boardwalk Empire

I liked her episode of Black Mirror also

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Kelly Macdonald acted her ass off in that scene in the science lab.

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I don't think I have watched anything with her in it before and she is absolutely a highlight of the series. What a stacked trio between her, Pierre, and Chandler

Also like this John in 2026 that is a little less of a harass and dead pan. The whole scene lying to Hal about the funeral was hilarious.

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John: "Of course! Me and Mogo? We stood right over there together!"
Hal: "Mogo's a planet!"

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That was such great writing

Their chemistry is so good, I wish we would get or gotten a couple of seasons of them solving mysteries together.

I also like that they didnt find the lantern yet. Adds some additional suspense, since they're running out of time.

would have been too convenient to wrap it up in one episode.

Definitely a lot of "not good" stuff looking here for Hal

He's got a wormhole thing that goes straight to the planet where the Manhunter slaughtered everyone
Sinestro is there
Sinestro know exactly who John is.
Sinestro definitely seems to have a very tellow forge/engine thing in the ground
Sinestro couldn't have escaped by himself.

Regardless of what I think of the show overall, I don't think it's possible for Kyle Chandler to not be charismatic. Great call casting him, I just wish we'd have gotten to see him actually be the Green Lantern for a full season.

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Regardless of what I think of the show overall, I don't think it's possible for Kyle Chandler to not be charismatic. Great call casting him, I just wish we'd have gotten to see him actually be the Green Lantern for a full season.

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Nothing says a later season of Lanterns can't go back to an early time period.

CharleyKerfeld said:

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Definitely a lot of "not good" stuff looking here for Hal

He's got a wormhole thing that goes straight to the planet where the Manhunter slaughtered everyone
Sinestro is there
Sinestro know exactly who John is.
Sinestro definitely seems to have a very tellow forge/engine thing in the ground
Sinestro couldn't have escaped by himself.

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Sinestro already knew when Hal visited him Spacezkaban 10 years ago, right?

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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Regardless of what I think of the show overall, I don't think it's possible for Kyle Chandler to not be charismatic. Great call casting him, I just wish we'd have gotten to see him actually be the Green Lantern for a full season.

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Nothing says a later season of Lanterns can't go back to an early time period.

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Very true, but what I've read says Chandler isn't signed up for anything past season 1 while Pierre and Fillion are contracted at least for Man of Tomorrow. Plus, there's still no word that a Season 2 for Lanterns has been confirmed. Yeah, I know, glass half empty way to view it, but plenty of shows have been re-upped for a 2nd season well before the 1st season is complete. I have a feeling this whole DCU under Gunn is going to come to a grinding halt after Man of Tomorrow.

FL_Ag1998 said:

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Regardless of what I think of the show overall, I don't think it's possible for Kyle Chandler to not be charismatic. Great call casting him, I just wish we'd have gotten to see him actually be the Green Lantern for a full season.

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Seems like a waste of Chandler for just one season. I guess they could do flashbacks, etc. Initially, I thought the show would be more a of buddy cop type setup.

Great episode. Honestly had a True Detective vibe.