***** The Lord of the Rings: Official Thread *****

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In reply to PatAg • 9:05a, 8/16/22
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My guess is it will be perfectly fine.
Hard to be worse than what they was done to the hobbit


There's a pretty big gulf between "perfectly fine" and "what was done to The Hobbit."
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 9:39a, 8/16/22
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I had no idea they were remaking Highlander!
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In reply to The Collective • 11:00a, 8/16/22
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Looks to be all based off quotes from the cast, and allegedly Amazon is doing damage control & trying to walk it all back. IDK, stuff just started showing up in my feed. Not sure why…


This. Some of the cast/crew have talked about how it's supposed to be more representative and inclusive.

Essentially, they're trying to copy recreate the success of GOT by playing on the success of the LOTR trilogy, which they didn't create, and playing to a fan base of Tolkien's work, which they also didn't create, by ripping it off, trying to throw their own woke spin on it, and throwing a lot of money at it. It just smacks of desperation and unoriginality.

I will remain highly skeptical until it is released.
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 11:26a, 8/16/22
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The Collective said:
Looks to be all based off quotes from the cast, and allegedly Amazon is doing damage control & trying to walk it all back. IDK, stuff just started showing up in my feed. Not sure why…


This. Some of the cast/crew have talked about how it's supposed to be more representative and inclusive.

Essentially, they're trying to copy recreate the success of GOT by playing on the success of the LOTR trilogy, which they didn't create, and playing to a fan base of Tolkien's work, which they also didn't create, by ripping it off, trying to throw their own woke spin on it, and throwing a lot of money at it. It just smacks of desperation and unoriginality.

I will remain highly skeptical until it is released.


After some research, The Tolkien society stuff has me worried. I'm sure they gave an opinion on the show
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In reply to DVC2010 • 11:42a, 8/16/22
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PatAg said:
My guess is it will be perfectly fine.
Hard to be worse than what they was done to the hobbit


There's a pretty big gulf between "perfectly fine" and "what was done to The Hobbit."
Yep, Im just hoping to enjoy it, but not expecting it to be great. I expect there will be many scenes, or parts of the story that I think just aren't very good. But overall I hope to like it.

Basically, for a frame of reference, I expect it to be better than Wheel of Time season 1, and I'm still going to watch season 2 of that show.
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5:41p, 8/17/22
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Premiering at a reasonable time. (8 pm CT on Thursday 9/1)

https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2022/08/16/114402-the-rings-of-power-full-airing-schedule-is-now-available/

11 pm for the rest of the episodes.
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5:46p, 8/17/22
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One day away from all the TexAgs arguments. It's about to go down on this thread...
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6:18p, 8/17/22
I expect it to be bad but am open to being surprised.
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In reply to Lathspell • 6:22p, 8/17/22
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One day away from all the TexAgs arguments. It's about to go down on this thread...
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In reply to PatAg • 7:02p, 8/17/22
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He thinks it means tomorrow
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In reply to wangus12 • 7:16p, 8/17/22
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He thinks it means tomorrow
Lol.... yeah, I read Thursday and immediately thought "tomorrow".

Fine... two weeks until the Thunderdome.
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3:26a, 8/18/22
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Why even make this series when they don't own the rights to the primary source material? So much of what I've heard/seen so far seems to directly contradict what Tolkien wrote in the Silmarillion.
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In reply to [removed post] • 7:59a, 8/18/22
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They already have the rights to LOTR, including the appendices. What they don't have is The Silmarillion.
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In reply to [removed post] • 8:28a, 8/18/22
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think of it as multiverse alt fan-fiction.

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8:55a, 8/23/22
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Top YT comment when I last checked, "When Galadriel pulled out her lightsaber and said, "Wakanda forever" sent shivers up my spine. Tolkien couldn't have written anything better."
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In reply to [removed post] • 8:59a, 8/23/22
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This sale does not affect them is my point.
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9:19a, 8/23/22
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Galadriel looks great.

I kind of wish the hobbits weren't in it at all to be honest. It feels like that was the whole point of how crazy it was that they were so much in focus for The Hobbit and LOTR. Most people in Middle Earth didn't even know they were around, or had never met one.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 9:39a, 8/23/22
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I think it still kind of tracks though because of how long before LOTR this stuff is occurring. Like they didn't settle in the Shire area until the beginning of the Third Age.
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10:19a, 8/23/22
Shire reckoning years are marked from the original settlement. SR year 1 is Third Age year 1601.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 11:02a, 8/23/22
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They already have the rights to LOTR, including the appendices. What they don't have is The Silmarillion.

That's not quite true.

By virtue of contracting with the Estate, if something is mentioned in the narrative of LOTR + Appendices, they can "look into" that particular narrative or item wherever more information can be gleaned.

But, if it only exists in UT or the Silmarillion, it's off-limits. Basically, it's complicated.

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In reply to Solo Tetherball Champ • 11:14a, 8/23/22
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Which is what I said?
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In reply to The Collective • 11:36a, 8/23/22
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Top YT comment when I last checked, "When Galadriel pulled out her lightsaber and said, "Wakanda forever" sent shivers up my spine. Tolkien couldn't have written anything better."
I do not like the style of this trailer at all
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12:12p, 8/23/22
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It definitely makes it tough to get excited when they don't say jack **** about what's going on. Give me some sort of narrative to latch onto.
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12:46p, 8/23/22
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This is my least favorite trailer but still very hopeful.
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 3:37p, 8/24/22
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The Collective said:
Looks to be all based off quotes from the cast, and allegedly Amazon is doing damage control & trying to walk it all back. IDK, stuff just started showing up in my feed. Not sure why…


This. Some of the cast/crew have talked about how it's supposed to be more representative and inclusive.

Essentially, they're trying to copy recreate the success of GOT by playing on the success of the LOTR trilogy, which they didn't create, and playing to a fan base of Tolkien's work, which they also didn't create, by ripping it off, trying to throw their own woke spin on it, and throwing a lot of money at it. It just smacks of desperation and unoriginality.

I will remain highly skeptical until it is released.


This show is going to be terrible. Almost every LOTR fan I have seen on nerd sites expects it to suck.
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AmarilloBQ02 said:
Why even make this series when they don't own the rights to the primary source material? So much of what I've heard/seen so far seems to directly contradict what Tolkien wrote in the Silmarillion.
think of it as multiverse alt fan-fiction.

We are not on Middle Earth Prime, but on Middle Earth 69, because lolz.

but the good thing is that with the sale today of the rights, Amazon can now go and license them from someone else on top of the ones they got from the Tolkien Estate.


This is exactly why it's going to be horrifically bad. I am frankly amazed the Tolkien estate even allowed any of this to happen. Why allow your series name to be attached to fan fiction?
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 3:41p, 8/24/22
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Galadriel looks great.

I kind of wish the hobbits weren't in it at all to be honest. It feels like that was the whole point of how crazy it was that they were so much in focus for The Hobbit and LOTR. Most people in Middle Earth didn't even know they were around, or had never met one.


Except that Galadriel is not and never was a fighter. She was so powerful she never needed to pick up a sword. That's one of the main aspects of her character.
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In reply to PatAg • 3:43p, 8/24/22
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The Collective said:


Top YT comment when I last checked, "When Galadriel pulled out her lightsaber and said, "Wakanda forever" sent shivers up my spine. Tolkien couldn't have written anything better."
I do not like the style of this trailer at all


The modern music is a clear sign that they missed the entire point. This trailer may be the worst one yet.
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