***** The Lord of the Rings: Official Thread *****

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DallasTeleAg
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Lol... GET OUT OF MY YOUTUBE FEED!
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Andrew Dufresne said:

The Battle of the Five Armies is badass.
Actually no. It's not. It was completely terrible.
Al Bula
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Me to AI: "generate an image of Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin in the barrow with wights."

AI:

redline248
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Amazing.
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Why does one of them look like a short fat Ed Sheeran?
Brian Earl Spilner
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One looks like Aragorn.
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Where do you make these?
Al Bula
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YouBet said:

Where do you make these?
Microsoft Bing search app or Microsoft Copilot app. Half the time the AI servers either can't create an image because something in the prompt you are telling the engine to create is flagged for a dumb reason or the engine returns a string of text instead of an image.
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Rewatching the extended edition of The Two Towers. The whole lead up and battle of Helms Deep is so perfect. I would say say it's the best battle scene in a movie all time!
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Unpopular opinion:

The splitting of the fellowship marked the start of the boring point in LOTR. Frodo, Sam and Gollum just aren't very interesting together. It is not until the encounter with Faramir that the story line picks somewhat up before going flat until they are rescued by the eagles.

Two Hobbits and a corrupt proto-Hobbit can't carry a story. Lots of ways the Frodo/Sam fiasco could have been improved upon.

Two alternatives:

1) Aragorn could dispatched Legolas to go after Frodo and Sam as a guide. If you can be honest with yourself, Legolas was apretty undeveloped elf that could see far and had a contest with a dwarf on killing orcs. That's really all. Had he had more delegated leadership from
Aragorn, there was a real chance to develop Legolas.

2) Boromir survived and became devoted to helping Frodo get closer to Mordor after his madness. Very little development on Boromir until after he was dead through Merry, Faramir and Denethor's perspectives. Faramir and Boromir should have been reunited before he died.
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Al Bula said:

Unpopular opinion:

The splitting of the fellowship marked the start of the boring point in LOTR. Frodo, Sam and Gollum just aren't very interesting together. It is not until the encounter with Faramir that the story line picks somewhat up before going flat until they are rescued by the eagles.

Two Hobbits and a corrupt proto-Hobbit can't carry a story. Lots of ways the Frodo/Sam fiasco could have been improved upon.

Two alternatives:

1) Aragorn could dispatched Legolas to go after Frodo and Sam as a guide. If you can be honest with yourself, Legolas was apretty undeveloped elf that could see far and had a contest with a dwarf on killing orcs. That's really all. Had he had more delegated leadership from
Aragorn, there was a real chance to develop Legolas.

2) Boromir survived and became devoted to helping Frodo get closer to Mordor after his madness. Very little development on Boromir until after he was dead through Merry, Faramir and Denethor's perspectives. Faramir and Boromir should have been reunited before he died.
Frodo and Sam dealing with shelob was interesting.
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If one wanted to buy the Silmarillion, what is a good version to buy?
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ETA - I just bought a copy at Barnes and Noble and use a lot of org charts and LOTR wikis in the background as I try to read through it.
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Al Bula said:

Unpopular opinion:

The splitting of the fellowship marked the start of the boring point in LOTR. Frodo, Sam and Gollum just aren't very interesting together. It is not until the encounter with Faramir that the story line picks somewhat up before going flat until they are rescued by the eagles.

Two Hobbits and a corrupt proto-Hobbit can't carry a story. Lots of ways the Frodo/Sam fiasco could have been improved upon.

Two alternatives:

1) Aragorn could dispatched Legolas to go after Frodo and Sam as a guide. If you can be honest with yourself, Legolas was apretty undeveloped elf that could see far and had a contest with a dwarf on killing orcs. That's really all. Had he had more delegated leadership from
Aragorn, there was a real chance to develop Legolas.

2) Boromir survived and became devoted to helping Frodo get closer to Mordor after his madness. Very little development on Boromir until after he was dead through Merry, Faramir and Denethor's perspectives. Faramir and Boromir should have been reunited before he died.
I can't recall what happened in the books, but his redemptive arc (albeit very short) was incredible in the movie. I would not change that.
DallasTeleAg
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Deal with it?

Your two options either:

1) Remove a great story of finding a lifelong friend in someone you had spent hundreds of years basically hating. (shown more in the book than the movies).

2) Take away the only real death of the Fellowship and a penultimate scene in the movie. One I would argue is the greatest death scene in movie history. The fall of Boromir is necessary for the story to hold the weight it does.

The Two Towers is the middle of an enormous and dense book. Is it the most boring of the books? Yes. You think following Frodo and Sam in the movie is slow? Try reading it. At least we didn't get 20 pages of Ent poetry in the movies. However, that's the story and I see nothing wrong with that.

Sending anyone else with Frodo who can also fight off the allure of the Ring cheapens the entire story and lessens the threat of the Ring, itself. Frodo is our hero because he was able to make it all the way to Mt. Doom before finally being overcome by the Ring. Sam is also our Hero because his love for Frodo and selflessness allowed him to resist the Ring all together. The whole idea is that no one else could have completed this task. Boromir definitely would not have been able to resist the Ring, seeing as he was the first to fall. Legolas may have lasted longer, but he too would have eventually given in.
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