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I think I posted this before, but in my district what they are currently saying is the if a class has to quarantine because of an exposure, that entire class will transition to remote learning the following day... with the teacher leading the remote learning.

I don't think that will be easy, but at least the school as a 1:1 ipad/student ratio and all work will already be done that way regardless of physical/remote presence.

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3rd Generation Ag said:

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I hope all of you who are pushing for reopening without precaustions are calling your local schools and signing up to be substitute teachers. This from a practical point is going to be a huge issue.

Most districts are short of subsitutes anyway. Rarely a day goes by that our sub clerk does not have to put out an email begging teachers to take that extra class that no sub is there for. When we start combining classes that will make social distancing even more difficult.

I teach 16 to 18 year olds who are minorities, have jobs, and most live in multi generational homes. 31 in a class with no way to get that 31st desk in without blocking the door, so last one in sits at teacher desk. That is the reality in big city high schools.

So kids come to school sick...did this before covid. Every stomach virus and such makes the rounds every year. We already have huge problems getting subs for these outages before covid. Almost all our subs are retired teachers who work to supplement their income. Some of them have even higher risk spouses at home. I suspect they will want to sit this year out.

So if you are young and not worried becuase this is just like the flu and you won't get that sick anyway...then sign up to be a subsittute teacher for middle or high school in your area. You will be needed,

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Player To Be Named Later said:

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All I ever see being kicked around and discussed is "teacher safety" as in trying to keep them from not dying being the only reason schools may consider going online.

Here's another perspective I'm not seeing discussed.... so this thing is apparently awfully contagious, so how many teachers/administrators, etc can a school handle being out sick for a minimum of 14 days while they quarantine after being infected?

At what point can a school not function due to folks being at home? How many teachers out sick is a really bad day prior to Covid? It will likely be much worse if they fully open, even if everyone gets a "mild" case and is only out 14 days. We've already had teachers here say that finding a sub is damn near impossible these days. So a school has an outbreak, X number of teachers are sent home for 14 days, how many subs are going to think "Yeah, cool, I'll go teach in that building for 14 days"

And how many kids will have to go home for 14 days during an outbreak? If we aren't offering any online lessons, how many of them will just have 2 weeks of make up work to do?

Maybe there are other considerations than just "we don't even 1 teacher to die" at play here.

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But it is in the nature of middle-school kids to rebel, not to obey teachers, not to wear masks or keep apart.

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Can we all at least agree that middle schoolers suck? Man, you couldn't pay me enough to be that age again or teach that age

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it seems like students and the parents are carrying the intellectual and emotional burden, mostly to benefit the physical safety of the staff and teachers.

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I think as it gets closer, teachers are realizing that a lot of folks seem to be willing to sacrifice the teachers' health and safety and, believe it or not, a lot are NOT ok with that.

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Similarly there are parents (and students) that are now realizing that lot of folks seem to be willing to sacrifice their child's education and, believe it or not, a lot are NOT ok with that.

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Teachers aren't happy about this either - most WANT to teach.

But they want to be able to do it safely.

I don't think that's unreasonable. I expect to be safe when I go to my job.

Right now TEA/school districts etc are doing a terrible job letting teachers know how they are going to be kept safe and what is going to be required of them and how they will achieve those requirements.

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But it is in the nature of middle-school kids to rebel, not to obey teachers, not to wear masks or keep apart.

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Can we all at least agree that middle schoolers suck? Man, you couldn't pay me enough to be that age again or teach that age

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They are my circus.

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But thats the best thing about online learning. Throw a $200 TV in the classroom and stream in the same video feed the online students are getting. Remote teaching requires no additional labor. If done well, the large scale need for substitutes can become a thing of the past.

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3rd Generation Ag said:

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I hope all of you who are pushing for reopening without precautions are calling your local schools and signing up to be substitute teachers. This from a practical point is going to be a huge issue.

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We already have signed up to be substitute teachers. If our kids aren't in school, that's exactly what every one of us will be as parents. Oh, and we'll also be doing our regular day jobs as well.

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Exactly. It is such a ridiculous argument. Maybe my tax dollars should be spent more efficiently. Lord knows I pay enough. If you can't get a substitute to come in, you aren't paying them enough money that the market dictates.

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I hope all of you who are pushing for reopening without precautions are calling your local schools and signing up to be substitute teachers. This from a practical point is going to be a huge issue.

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We already have signed up to be substitute teachers. If our kids aren't in school, that's exactly what every one of us will be as parents. Oh, and we'll also be doing our regular day jobs as well.

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Exactly. It is such a ridiculous argument. Maybe my tax dollars should be spent more efficiently. Lord knows I pay enough. If you can't get a substitute to come in, you aren't paying them enough money that the market dictates.

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3rd Generation Ag said:

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I hope all of you who are pushing for reopening without precautions are calling your local schools and signing up to be substitute teachers. This from a practical point is going to be a huge issue.

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We already have signed up to be substitute teachers. If our kids aren't in school, that's exactly what every one of us will be as parents. Oh, and we'll also be doing our regular day jobs as well.

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