Wylie ISD is giving the option of at school or distance. They said 70% of parents said they wanted in school learning. As of right now lunch will still be held in the cafeteria
rojo_ag said:
Superintendent for my district sent out an email informing parents they will have two options for next year (obviously subject to change).
Option 1: Five days a week full-time in-person traditional learning on campus, with heightened hygiene and disinfection protocols.
Option 2: Full-time remote learning.
Looks like many districts in Texas have decided the hybrid model would be a challenge. Also, I have not heard about extracurricular activities and participation. He will provide more information next week regarding what "heightened hygiene and disinfection protocols" mean.
We also have had a little bit of information regarding sick leave and personal days. It looks we will receive 14 days for Covid related absences (quarantine, infected, exposed, child care) before we use our personal or sick days. This leave is provided through the CARES Act. There may be exceptions for the percentage of pay one will receive when taking the 14 days.
culdeus said:
I think from watching the way things unfolded in summer camps has me thinking this will be an utter disaster.
There is nearly no thought into how you should protect teachers from the virus, or how to manage extended sustained absences or lack of subs.
I mean what sub are you gonna get to go into a contaminated case with contacted kids, lol good luck.
There's zero point of even opening schools if we have to basically send kids home if just one in the class gets the sniffles from COVID. All that will do it just make parents not get their kids tested unless they actually show symptoms beyond a simple fever or cough.planoaggie123 said:
I don't know for sure but to me I would think the entire class either gets tested or has to co-quarantine and thus no subs for "infected" classrooms.
So what do you propose?tylercsbn9 said:There's zero point of even opening schools if we have to basically send kids home if just one in the class gets the sniffles from COVID. All that will do it just make parents not get their kids tested unless they actually show symptoms beyond a simple fever or cough.planoaggie123 said:
I don't know for sure but to me I would think the entire class either gets tested or has to co-quarantine and thus no subs for "infected" classrooms.
This kid with the sniffles stays home. The rest go to school. If a parent is worried they keep their kid home to learn online.The seasonal flu is more dangerous to kids than this and we don'e go through quarantine and **** for when a kid in school gets the flu.planoaggie123 said:So what do you propose?tylercsbn9 said:There's zero point of even opening schools if we have to basically send kids home if just one in the class gets the sniffles from COVID. All that will do it just make parents not get their kids tested unless they actually show symptoms beyond a simple fever or cough.planoaggie123 said:
I don't know for sure but to me I would think the entire class either gets tested or has to co-quarantine and thus no subs for "infected" classrooms.
No school?
If 1 kid in a room has it, just have him quarantine at home and the rest of the class just goes about as normal and only send others home as they develop symptoms / test positive?
What you are suggesting is for a fundamental shift in how we are responding to this virus. For districts to treat this infection and disease like any normal sickness, governments at all levels will need to admit that we have "lost" the battle and will be resigned to fact that at least 70% will be infected within 2 years. Since the risk is for most minimal, we will stomach a small percentage of people requiring hospitalizations and a handful even dying.tommyjohn said:
My thing about school is if not now then when?
Online for August? Then what happens in January? Send everyone back at the peak of flu season + COVID?
Crap or get off the pot. Give people an option for online open the schools back up and state your procedure for handling a positive case. People can make their own decision from there.
A 14 day quarantine for a positive test is not possible. You will just have to shut it down again in a few weeks.
Kids will get sick and they will get better. It happens all the time.
The government has shown to be pretty amazing at changing the story / narrative to fit whatever it needs. I see no reason they cannot do it again...rojo_ag said:What you are suggesting is for a fundamental shift in how we are responding to this virus. For districts to treat this infection and disease like any normal sickness, governments at all levels will need to admit that we have "lost" the battle and will be resigned to fact that at least 70% will be infected within 2 years. Since the risk is for most minimal, we will stomach a small percentage of people requiring hospitalizations and a handful even dying.tommyjohn said:
My thing about school is if not now then when?
Online for August? Then what happens in January? Send everyone back at the peak of flu season + COVID?
Crap or get off the pot. Give people an option for online open the schools back up and state your procedure for handling a positive case. People can make their own decision from there.
A 14 day quarantine for a positive test is not possible. You will just have to shut it down again in a few weeks.
Kids will get sick and they will get better. It happens all the time.
Extreme mitigation strategies such as shutting down schools for outbreaks, quarantining students, faculty, and staff after exposure for 14 days, limiting classes sizes, enforcing masking compliance, ensuring social distancing, eating in the classroom, creating one way hallways, staggering passing periods, keeping students in one class all day, and many others that have been suggested will sadly be ineffective. Many of us are going to be sick.
At the national level and state level, leaders have to admit that we are waving the white flag. For true traditional school to happen in the fall, we will have to take the regular precautions that we take for a flu outbreak: stay home when sick, wash hands often, and use hand sanitizer. We will not longer attempt to slow the spread.
Now, what evidence have you seen that leads you to believe that our leaders and the general public will support this?
Losing what battle?Quote:
What you are suggesting is for a fundamental shift in how we are responding to this virus. For districts to treat this infection and disease like any normal sickness, governments at all levels will need to admit that we have "lost" the battle and will be resigned to fact that at least 70% will be infected within 2 years.........
.........At the national level and state level, leaders have to admit that we are waving the white flag.
River Bass said:Losing what battle?Quote:
What you are suggesting is for a fundamental shift in how we are responding to this virus. For districts to treat this infection and disease like any normal sickness, governments at all levels will need to admit that we have "lost" the battle and will be resigned to fact that at least 70% will be infected within 2 years.........
.........At the national level and state level, leaders have to admit that we are waving the white flag.
The goal all along was avoid overwhelming the medical system.
We have been successful in that goal and I think we can continue to be successful with some common sense practices.
The virus wont go away if we do online learning.
Everyone will come into contact with COVID 19. Its not a matter of "if" but a matter of "when". With the advances that we have made I see no reason to keep kicking the can down the road.
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Instead of thinking of the impact this has on kids, shift the focus to teachers. Anyone who follows this thing for 30 seconds knows the risk to kids is near zero.
We've already lost 700+ medical professionals to this, how many teachers are you willing to sacrifice? How many teachers died doing distance learning?
How many before teachers simply walk off the job? Texas does not have a strong teacher union, but other states do and they are taking note of this "not if but when" stuff and they aren't going for it.
I'm glad we both agree. I put "lost" in quotations, but perhaps I was unclear. Even our president said at one time the he was a wartime president. We have often used war rhetoric during this pandemic. Many people see this is a battle to slow or stop the spread.River Bass said:Losing what battle?Quote:
What you are suggesting is for a fundamental shift in how we are responding to this virus. For districts to treat this infection and disease like any normal sickness, governments at all levels will need to admit that we have "lost" the battle and will be resigned to fact that at least 70% will be infected within 2 years.........
.........At the national level and state level, leaders have to admit that we are waving the white flag.
The goal all along was avoid overwhelming the medical system.
We have been successful in that goal and I think we can continue to be successful with some common sense practices.
The virus wont go away if we do online learning.
Everyone will come into contact with COVID 19. Its not a matter of "if" but a matter of "when". With the advances that we have made I see no reason to keep kicking the can down the road.
Because there is no requirement for the job to be conducted in person.River Bass said:I have to go to work in my industry.Quote:
Instead of thinking of the impact this has on kids, shift the focus to teachers. Anyone who follows this thing for 30 seconds knows the risk to kids is near zero.
We've already lost 700+ medical professionals to this, how many teachers are you willing to sacrifice? How many teachers died doing distance learning?
How many before teachers simply walk off the job? Texas does not have a strong teacher union, but other states do and they are taking note of this "not if but when" stuff and they aren't going for it.
I work for a construction company and each of our job sites has hundreds of workers that have to show up each day.
Police, fire fighters, doctors, nurses, mail carriers, auto mechanics, manufacturing employees, grocery store workers, etc. etc. all have to take the risk and go to work each day to keep our nation running.
Why are teachers exempt from this risk?
Daycares are for all intents 0 risk. You can't even get a firm figure on the kids under 5 data because HIPPA rules are tight when you can't count the cases on one hand.River Bass said:
Daycares have been open now for a long time.
They do temp checks for every kid entering the building.
When they discover a positive case for a student inside the school then that one person quarantines for 14 days and the school closes for 2-3 days for cleaning.
If that student has had contact with a positive case outside of the school then the student quarantines for 14 days, but the school does not close.
Our day care has not had to close yet in the last 8 weeks or so.
I see no reason that public schools cant follow the same program for a couple of months.
Eventually they may find that its not even necessary to close for 2-3 days.