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Astros 2015/2016 Offseason Thread
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Here you go.
Bout time!
Gregreson shows up injured.
Not the best way to start a ST in which you're battling for the closer job. Addition by subtraction?
quote:
Astros reliever Luke Gregerson will be limited as camp gets underway because of left oblique soreness he suffered in the last week while throwing, manager A.J. Hinch said Thursday morning.
Not the best way to start a ST in which you're battling for the closer job. Addition by subtraction?
quote:Is he though? We don't give up as much as we did for Giles if he's not the closer.
Gregreson shows up injured.quote:
Astros reliever Luke Gregerson will be limited as camp gets underway because of left oblique soreness he suffered in the last week while throwing, manager A.J. Hinch said Thursday morning.
Not the best way to start a ST in which you're battling for the closer job. Addition by subtraction?
And no its not addition by subtraction. He should be one of the top set up guys in the league this year.
I thought when Giles was acquired that Hinch said he wasn't going to give him the job and said that he and Gregerson would be in a competition.
I agree with you that Giles should be the guy, but I was under the impression they haven't named him the closer.
I agree with you that Giles should be the guy, but I was under the impression they haven't named him the closer.
Technically they haven't (I don't think), but lets be real. We all know Giles is supposed to be the guy. Something went very very wrong if he's not the closer game 1 and game 162.
Great...
I wasn't too down on Gregerson until the final stretch of last season. It started with the Hinch argument and was capped off by imploding in Game 4 of the KC series.
Maybe he projects better as setup man, but he's just not that good.
I wasn't too down on Gregerson until the final stretch of last season. It started with the Hinch argument and was capped off by imploding in Game 4 of the KC series.
Maybe he projects better as setup man, but he's just not that good.
Opp Avg: .211
WHIP: 0.95
Saves: 31 (5 blown)
Those are solid #s for a closer and he's not being ask to hold.
The 7th-8th-9th combo of Harris-Gregerson-Giles with Sipp mixed in there too is pretty damn salty. I know they blew the KC series, but more often than not the pen was a strength that should be even stronger this year.
WHIP: 0.95
Saves: 31 (5 blown)
Those are solid #s for a closer and he's not being ask to hold.
The 7th-8th-9th combo of Harris-Gregerson-Giles with Sipp mixed in there too is pretty damn salty. I know they blew the KC series, but more often than not the pen was a strength that should be even stronger this year.
Gregersuck has terrible stuff for a closer.
He doesn't have a whole lot of velocity and he tends to miss spots often.
His stats don't look bad from last year, but you never really felt safe when he came in to close it out. Especially with only a 1 run lead.
There is a reason that one of the Astros' biggest needs this off season was a closer.
He doesn't have a whole lot of velocity and he tends to miss spots often.
His stats don't look bad from last year, but you never really felt safe when he came in to close it out. Especially with only a 1 run lead.
There is a reason that one of the Astros' biggest needs this off season was a closer.
yep - we had to have a closer who had velocity. Hopefully that need has been filled.
The BP will still be a steaming pile if we continue to get Hinched every night. [/HinchHaters]
I'm still a believer in using your best available relief pitcher in the high leverage situation. If that means we're facing 2/3/4 in the opponent's lineup in the 8th, put Giles in there.
The closer role is symbolically and psychologically important but give me the right tool at the right time instead of saving bullets we may never use because our "7th inning" "8th inning" guy blew the lead.
I think we can be pretty solid in the pen this year.
The closer role is symbolically and psychologically important but give me the right tool at the right time instead of saving bullets we may never use because our "7th inning" "8th inning" guy blew the lead.
I think we can be pretty solid in the pen this year.
quote:It's intriguing after those names that we still have Neshek and Fields, with the 6th starter as a long relief type.
Opp Avg: .211
WHIP: 0.95
Saves: 31 (5 blown)
Those are solid #s for a closer and he's not being ask to hold.
The 7th-8th-9th combo of Harris-Gregerson-Giles with Sipp mixed in there too is pretty damn salty. I know they blew the KC series, but more often than not the pen was a strength that should be even stronger this year.
quote:I don't think much of Neshek, but Fields is a serviceable guy. And you're right. Fiers, Fister, and Feldman cannot all make the rotation if Kuechel, McCullers, and McHugh are healthy.quote:It's intriguing after those names that we still have Neshek and Fields, with the 6th starter as a long relief type.
Opp Avg: .211
WHIP: 0.95
Saves: 31 (5 blown)
Those are solid #s for a closer and he's not being ask to hold.
The 7th-8th-9th combo of Harris-Gregerson-Giles with Sipp mixed in there too is pretty damn salty. I know they blew the KC series, but more often than not the pen was a strength that should be even stronger this year.
quote:
I'm still a believer in using your best available relief pitcher in the high leverage situation. If that means we're facing 2/3/4 in the opponent's lineup in the 8th, put Giles in there.
The closer role is symbolically and psychologically important but give me the right tool at the right time instead of saving bullets we may never use because our "7th inning" "8th inning" guy blew the lead.
I think we can be pretty solid in the pen this year.
I'm not against this if you're in a situation where you have a mediocre closer. However, if you have a closer who's as close to a sure thing as possible I like keeping him in that 9th inning spot. Hopefully Giles becomes that guy.
I also like the idea of uniformity and defined roles in the BP. Just seems guys are more effective when they know what they're in for as a game progresses and can really embrace their role.
You know who doesn't like the idea of uniformity and defined roles, and who will live and die by the lefty righty match up (which directly led to many blown saves last year)?
quote:I get that argument and it has merit, but if we're going to always try and get the best matchup when it comes to platoon splits (pitching or hitting), use shifts as much as we do, why wouldn't we use the right tool at the right time? It comes back to that saving bullets you never get a chance to use that I mentioned before.quote:
I'm still a believer in using your best available relief pitcher in the high leverage situation. If that means we're facing 2/3/4 in the opponent's lineup in the 8th, put Giles in there.
The closer role is symbolically and psychologically important but give me the right tool at the right time instead of saving bullets we may never use because our "7th inning" "8th inning" guy blew the lead.
I think we can be pretty solid in the pen this year.
I'm not against this if you're in a situation where you have a mediocre closer. However, if you have a closer who's as close to a sure thing as possible I like keeping him in that 9th inning spot. Hopefully Giles becomes that guy.
I also like the idea of uniformity and defined roles in the BP. Just seems guys are more effective when they know what they're in for as a game progresses and can really embrace their role.
It will definitely be interesting to see how it works out though.
quote:quote:I don't think much of Neshek, but Fields is a serviceable guy. And you're right. Fiers, Fister, and Feldman cannot all make the rotation if Kuechel, McCullers, and McHugh are healthy.quote:It's intriguing after those names that we still have Neshek and Fields, with the 6th starter as a long relief type.
Opp Avg: .211
WHIP: 0.95
Saves: 31 (5 blown)
Those are solid #s for a closer and he's not being ask to hold.
The 7th-8th-9th combo of Harris-Gregerson-Giles with Sipp mixed in there too is pretty damn salty. I know they blew the KC series, but more often than not the pen was a strength that should be even stronger this year.
Just saw on Twitter that Neshek played last season injured, but didn't tell the media... Had surgery and had a bone removed from his foot.
Valbuena also played the second half of the season with an injured foot and he, too, had surgery in the off-season. Just goes to show that you never know what these guys are battling through out there.
Poll for the board..
Who of the position players on the current squad that are expected to break Spring Training on the 25 man (so no Reed or White) are we most underrating heading into the season?
To me, its got to be Gattis, Marisnick, or Castro.
Gattis: Nobody expects him to bounce back. We all assume what we saw last year is what we get.
Castro: Two years in a row of injuries and reduced performance. No bounce back. Seems very below average at the plate.
Marisnick: 4th outfielder. Speed and depth is the expectation.
I'm guessing one of those three guys has a big time year. It will be harder for Marisnick, as all of the starters are firmly entrinched in the OF and other than days off he wont get as much of a chance as the other two. We'll see.
Who of the position players on the current squad that are expected to break Spring Training on the 25 man (so no Reed or White) are we most underrating heading into the season?
To me, its got to be Gattis, Marisnick, or Castro.
Gattis: Nobody expects him to bounce back. We all assume what we saw last year is what we get.
Castro: Two years in a row of injuries and reduced performance. No bounce back. Seems very below average at the plate.
Marisnick: 4th outfielder. Speed and depth is the expectation.
I'm guessing one of those three guys has a big time year. It will be harder for Marisnick, as all of the starters are firmly entrinched in the OF and other than days off he wont get as much of a chance as the other two. We'll see.
Gomez
quote:As underrated?
Gomez
I think everyone expects him to perform to the standards he's set in his career.
Great question
Looks like someone beat me while typing...I'm gonna say Gomez. He's being severely overlooked both from a production standpoint and the fact that I think an entire season with his fire and emotion is huge to this team. As far as production I expect him to bounce back healthy and put up some really nice numbers. Not MVP quality numbers like he did for a couple years, but solid .260-.280 with 20-25 HRs with 25 steals. Think his base running with see a significant spike from years past.
Jake won't get enough PT to contribute much. He'll be valauble off the bench, but about what we saw last year.
Gattis won't produce any more than he did last year.
Castro has proven that last year was more of the norm and that 2013 was the outlier. He's crap offensively
Looks like someone beat me while typing...I'm gonna say Gomez. He's being severely overlooked both from a production standpoint and the fact that I think an entire season with his fire and emotion is huge to this team. As far as production I expect him to bounce back healthy and put up some really nice numbers. Not MVP quality numbers like he did for a couple years, but solid .260-.280 with 20-25 HRs with 25 steals. Think his base running with see a significant spike from years past.
Jake won't get enough PT to contribute much. He'll be valauble off the bench, but about what we saw last year.
Gattis won't produce any more than he did last year.
Castro has proven that last year was more of the norm and that 2013 was the outlier. He's crap offensively
quote:quote:As underrated?
Gomez
I think everyone expects him to perform to the standards he's set in his career.
So you're expecting Gattis to be better than he was 2 years ago? I just know y'all weren't big Gomez fans last year.
Gattis wasn't an Astro two years ago. If he plays like he did then, you could absolutely call that playing above current expectations, because expectations seem to be that he is going to continue to do what he did last year.
quote:I can see it from that angle.
Great question
Looks like someone beat me while typing...I'm gonna say Gomez. He's being severely overlooked both from a production standpoint and the fact that I think an entire season with his fire and emotion is huge to this team. As far as production I expect him to bounce back healthy and put up some really nice numbers. Not MVP quality numbers like he did for a couple years, but solid .260-.280 with 20-25 HRs with 25 steals. Think his base running with see a significant spike from years past.
Jake won't get enough PT to contribute much. He'll be valauble off the bench, but about what we saw last year.
Gattis won't produce any more than he did last year.
Castro has proven that last year was more of the norm and that 2013 was the outlier. He's crap offensively
Gattis. I'm thinking he bounces back in a big way. The numbers support it too, just gotta stay healthy.
quote:What #s?
Gattis. I'm thinking he bounces back in a big way. The numbers support it too, just gotta stay healthy.
Also, Jon Singleton.. here was his major league line for last year.. small sample size.
.191 BA, .328 OBP, .298 SLG, 1 HR, 6 RBIs
Obviously what sticks out is the batting average and power. But to me, I felt like he was starting to put together when we sent him down. He obviously did VERY well once again in the minors.
I think Singleton proves himself this year. If he started the whole year, I could see
.255 BA, .315 OBP, .450 SLG, 20 HR, 50-60 RBI
That would put him on par with what we got from Rasmus last year, which I think is a fair performance to set as an over under for a player with Singletons abilities and potential.
.191 BA, .328 OBP, .298 SLG, 1 HR, 6 RBIs
Obviously what sticks out is the batting average and power. But to me, I felt like he was starting to put together when we sent him down. He obviously did VERY well once again in the minors.
I think Singleton proves himself this year. If he started the whole year, I could see
.255 BA, .315 OBP, .450 SLG, 20 HR, 50-60 RBI
That would put him on par with what we got from Rasmus last year, which I think is a fair performance to set as an over under for a player with Singletons abilities and potential.
Also, its starting to feel like we have a more veteran team, but we are still VERY young.
27.92 average age for our predicted 25 man.
27.92 average age for our predicted 25 man.
I just saw this little blurb concerning Paredes on fangraphs on a thread showcasing positional ball in play data. A couple of yall were talking positively about him. This writer disagreed..
quote:
Sell your Jimmy Paredes stock, if you have any. He had the highest Unadjusted Contact Score among DHs at 140, and it was clearly luck-based. His K-BB foundation is poor, his liner rate unusually high and ripe for regression, and his fly-ball rate too low to sustain power moving forward. He's also a dead-pull guy likely to be overshifted in the infield moving forward.
quote:He will have to have that stat line to stay around here... With White and Reed coming up, there's no room for an underachieving first basemen
Also, Jon Singleton.. here was his major league line for last year.. small sample size.
.191 BA, .328 OBP, .298 SLG, 1 HR, 6 RBIs
Obviously what sticks out is the batting average and power. But to me, I felt like he was starting to put together when we sent him down. He obviously did VERY well once again in the minors.
I think Singleton proves himself this year. If he started the whole year, I could see
.255 BA, .315 OBP, .450 SLG, 20 HR, 50-60 RBI
That would put him on par with what we got from Rasmus last year, which I think is a fair performance to set as an over under for a player with Singletons abilities and potential.
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