In cases like this where it is largely a "he said, she said" cooperation of the witness is pretty vital, especially when dealing with a high level defendant with a high level defense team, as I am sure is the case here.HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:
I haven't been following the whole situation closely, but I remember some of the pictures I saw were pretty horrific. I don't know much about the legal system there but I thought I remember reading that charges could still proceed even if witness/witnesses stop cooperating, bc of the supposed amount of evidence, so them completely dropping all charges seems pretty extreme to me.
HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:
I haven't been following the whole situation closely, but I remember some of the pictures I saw were pretty horrific. I don't know much about the legal system there but I thought I remember reading that charges could still proceed even if witness/witnesses stop cooperating, bc of the supposed amount of evidence, so them completely dropping all charges seems pretty extreme to me.
Yeah there is proof in the public perception (pictures) and then there is proof in the criminal system (someone testifying that Greenwood caused the marks on her). Without a witness willing to testify that he caused the bruises it is a dead case.Dre_00 said:HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:
I haven't been following the whole situation closely, but I remember some of the pictures I saw were pretty horrific. I don't know much about the legal system there but I thought I remember reading that charges could still proceed even if witness/witnesses stop cooperating, bc of the supposed amount of evidence, so them completely dropping all charges seems pretty extreme to me.
Likewise, I also don't know much about the legal system in the UK but those pictures and video are authentic. That part I'm pretty confident about as I don't think that was ever in question.
If I remember correctly, his partner did not release the video but a friend did under her account (or at least that was claimed). She didn't want it to come out. That part, I'm less confident about but pretty sure I "heard" (for what it's worth). She may have refused to testify and/or said the video was consensual. That is obviously pure conjecture.
No matter what, I hope he never sees a football pitch again and I certainly don't want to see him in a United kit. Ever. Ever. Ever.
Aston94 said:Yeah there is proof in the public perception (pictures) and then there is proof in the criminal system (someone testifying that Greenwood caused the marks on her). Without a witness willing to testify that he caused the bruises it is a dead case.Dre_00 said:HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:
I haven't been following the whole situation closely, but I remember some of the pictures I saw were pretty horrific. I don't know much about the legal system there but I thought I remember reading that charges could still proceed even if witness/witnesses stop cooperating, bc of the supposed amount of evidence, so them completely dropping all charges seems pretty extreme to me.
Likewise, I also don't know much about the legal system in the UK but those pictures and video are authentic. That part I'm pretty confident about as I don't think that was ever in question.
If I remember correctly, his partner did not release the video but a friend did under her account (or at least that was claimed). She didn't want it to come out. That part, I'm less confident about but pretty sure I "heard" (for what it's worth). She may have refused to testify and/or said the video was consensual. That is obviously pure conjecture.
No matter what, I hope he never sees a football pitch again and I certainly don't want to see him in a United kit. Ever. Ever. Ever.
United will have to proceed cautiously, without a criminal conviction United will need to make sure there is sufficient evidence to fully remove their contract. If they terminate without that they could find themselves on the wrong end of a defamation lawsuit from Greenwood, which is very similar to the position US Soccer finds itself in right now with Berhalter.
(THREAD) Regarding Greenwood:
— Ole was right, Esq. (@ole_was_right) February 2, 2023
In the past, my threads on this topic have been unabashedly pro-victim. I stand by that position; but, I’m going to try to set my personal stance aside for this thread, so people can arrive at their own decisions. This thread will discuss: what we