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Have they announced the minor leaguer involved in the trade yet?
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Teoscer Hernandez
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He was probably our 6th/7th outfielder so was definitely expendable, but hopefully we didn't need him for another big trade
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JEFF LUNHOW IS CHITTING THE BED
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979ag said:

JEFF LUNHOW IS CHITTING THE BED
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979ag said:

JEFF LUNHOW IS CHITTING THE BED
What now?
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979ag said:

JEFF LUNHOW IS CHITTING THE BED


You must be the ridiculous trade proposer that calls in on radio stations, "uh yeah would we trade Bregaman for Mike Trout and Albert Pujulos? Seems like a good trade for both teams"
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nhayden said:

979ag said:

JEFF LUNHOW IS CHITTING THE BED


You must be the ridiculous trade proposer that calls in on radio stations, "uh yeah would we trade Bregaman for Mike Trout and Albert Pujulos? Seems like a good trade for both teams"
Hang on, I'm calling in now.
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This sucks. The Dodgers were already better than us and now they've gotten much much better still.

I dont know what you people want with all those minor leaguers. No banners in the rafters for the AAA championship
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ChiliBeans said:

nhayden said:

979ag said:

JEFF LUNHOW IS CHITTING THE BED


You must be the ridiculous trade proposer that calls in on radio stations, "uh yeah would we trade Bregaman for Mike Trout and Albert Pujulos? Seems like a good trade for both teams"
Hang on, I'm calling in now.


Hahahahaha! Well if you are calling into local AM you are a loser, only the cool people call into Sirius/XM Bean and the Blitz, they are the best and blow away AM local shows.
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The Milkman said:

This sucks. The Dodgers were already better than us and now they've gotten much much better still.

I dont know what you people want with all those minor leaguers. No banners in the rafters for the AAA championship


Eh, there were no true game changers out there and quite frankly I didn't want to trade for middle tier starter.
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If Liriano can hold his line against lefties out of the pen this is a GREAT deal for the Astros right now. Gray, Darvish, and Britton were asking too much.

For this team to get back on track we need Keuchel and McCullers to return to early season form and figure out 3-5 along with a normal bullpen situation use.

I think the best moves are the moves you don't make. We once got Randy Johnson and Carlos Beltran and it did nothing for the team to advance any further than normal. Liriano fills the most glaring hole if he can continue to dominate lefties out of the pen.

I like what we did and didn't do. This may not be our year but the pieces are there if they all fall back into place where they were to start the year.

I don't blame Lunhow one bit for what happened today. If he has one blame it's not moving Bergman for Sale as that would have been a game changer.
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At the very least, Luhnow will open himself up to criticism if we fail to make the world series. I'm not saying he deserves to be fired or anything extreme like that, (this is TexAgs, after all) but the fact remains that teams that are looking up at us in the standings made move designed to beat us.

I disagree that the Randy Johnson and Beltran trades back in the day didn't matter. Of course getting those guys didn't guarantee a World Series, but you have to go into the playoffs with the best team possible. Both those guys made those respective teams better.
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What did the Dodgers give up for Darvish?
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Quote:

Morosi reported that second baseman/outfielder Willie Calhoun, who is the Dodgers' No. 4-ranked prospect according to MLBPipeline.com, right-hander A.J. Alexy (No. 17) and infielder Brendon Davis (No. 27) were sent to Texas.
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I wonder if the Rangers were demanding more from the Astros than the Dodgers because of in state rivalry.

That's similar to what NY gave up for Gray it seems.

I'd given equal that for Darvish.

And no doubt Lunhow opened himself up to criticism. The thing with me though is if this entire staff can get back to where it was to start the season it's good enough to win it all. McCullers is the big head scratcher right now.
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welp, now mccullers is on the DL again
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They may be good enough still, for sure, but the competition got better. Let's see what happens. Also keep in mind that this was just the non-waiver trade deadline. There could still be some pieces that clear waivers that can help us.
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That sucks on McCullers and hopefully explains his ineffectiveness since coming back. I believe Keuchel will get back to his form but if McCullers can't get back to legit #2 status it'll be tough for this team to win it all.

Gray I'm not big on from a playoff standpoint but thought Darvish would net more in return. He can be homer prone but he was definitely the best arm out there hands down.

I still hope this is the Royals team from 2 years ago that has a solid 1-9, decent but not spectacular starters, and a solid bullpen.

Get everybody back and healthy by mid September and I like our chances this year and going forward in future seasons.
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Weren't you just saying we are already good enough? Or was that dependent on McCullers?

If you have a chance to sell unknowns with prospects to make yourself better I believe you have to do it. If you don't go into September as the best team in baseball and the favorite to win the World Series, you need to make a change to try and be that team.

There isn't anything to be gained by being the division favorite for the next 5-10 years if you aren't the World Series favorite as well. Ask the 1990s Braves
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the article said mccullers was trying to tough it out until some of the other guys like keuchel came back. so it probably hasn't been right since he got off the DL himself.
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The Milkman said:

Weren't you just saying we are already good enough? Or was that dependent on McCullers?

If you have a chance to sell unknowns with prospects to make yourself better I believe you have to do it. If you don't go into September as the best team in baseball and the favorite to win the World Series, you need to make a change to try and be that team.

There isn't anything to be gained by being the division favorite for the next 5-10 years if you aren't the World Series favorite as well. Ask the 1990s Braves


Id kill for the Astros to be the 1992 or whatever Braves right now going forward.
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The Milkman said:

Weren't you just saying we are already good enough? Or was that dependent on McCullers?

If you have a chance to sell unknowns with prospects to make yourself better I believe you have to do it. If you don't go into September as the best team in baseball and the favorite to win the World Series, you need to make a change to try and be that team.

There isn't anything to be gained by being the division favorite for the next 5-10 years if you aren't the World Series favorite as well. Ask the 1990s Braves
the braves were the World Series favorites many of those years.
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JJxvi said:

The Milkman said:

Weren't you just saying we are already good enough? Or was that dependent on McCullers?

If you have a chance to sell unknowns with prospects to make yourself better I believe you have to do it. If you don't go into September as the best team in baseball and the favorite to win the World Series, you need to make a change to try and be that team.

There isn't anything to be gained by being the division favorite for the next 5-10 years if you aren't the World Series favorite as well. Ask the 1990s Braves


Id kill for the Astros to be the 1992 or whatever Braves right now going forward.



I'd rather win a title, and then put the pieces back together later. Like the late 2000s Phillies. Win one, make it again.
JJxvi
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This Phillies went to back to back world
Series and went 1 for 2. Made the playoffs 5 times.

The Braves also won one world series, and made it there 5 times with 14 playoff appearances in a row. The ****ing Phillies?


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I was referring to the Braves winning 1 WS out of 14 straight postseason appearances. That is an all time MLB disappointment. What could have been a historic dynasty was instead a team that was just always pretty good. I don't want to be "pretty good" for 5-10 years. I want to win a damn title
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The Milkman said:

I was referring to the Braves winning 1 WS out of 14 straight postseason appearances. That is an all time MLB disappointment. What could have been a historic dynasty was instead a team that was just always pretty good. I don't want to be "pretty good" for 5-10 years. I want to win a damn title


Well for all the b****ing about them not making a deal on pitching, the Braves pitching staff was one of the best around with 3 HOF and the #4 in Avery were damn good and aHOF 3rd baseman in Chipper Jones, and McGriff at 1st. I can't exactly recall what more they needed to add, probably a bat given their pitching. I know they made trades during that period that did not pan out. I guess my point is that there is quite a bit of luck that goes into this along with good players and while the Braves failed they were a damn good team.
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Going tomorrow.

Anyone know how crazy Jackson St. BBQ is before the game? I don't remember the details of the parking deal there. I know it's been discussed here before but I wasn't paying attention.

TIA for any advice.
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its fuggin $1 hot dog night. forget Jackson St and go jam wieners in your mouth



sts7049
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go to Biggio's instead
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jetch17 said:

its fuggin $1 hot dog night. forget Jackson St and go jam wieners in your mouth




Liquid Wrench
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You're making me a little uncomfortable.

I still would appreciate input, so to speak, since this won't be the last game we go to.
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In a less uncomfortable fashion, it's dollar fugging hotdog night. Go throw down with the Tines finest and spend the rest on booze
Liquid Wrench
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Wednesdays are also dollar hotdogs at Fuddruckers if you want to make a whole day of it.
 
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