No kidding. That's like a college baseball team lineup.RABAg04 said:
Altuve - .334
Correa - .320
MarGo - .319
Reddick - .315
Springer - .300
Yuli - .299
That's just nuts
Joker98 said:
This lineup has no obvious holes. Bag on Bregman and Beltran all you want, but they're not "holes". It wasn't so long ago that after you got past the clean up spot, it was a black hole of misery. The pitching has been pretty good overall so let's see what we can do in the 2nd half. There is no obvious Randy Johnson type stud this year to go get, but we could also use another good arm in the bullpen. At the rate that the current bullpen is being used, they're going to be worn out in September. It's going to be fun!
He also came up as a SS and they moved him to 3B for Correa to be at SS. I'd say he's done outstanding for moving over and learning a new position. His bat is "good enough" right now and his defensive play has been above average. Another year or two to develop in the Bigs and he could be an All Star.Joker98 said:
I completely agree with this but I recall folks bagging on him on this thread saying they'd be fine with trading him. The kid is only 2 years out of LSU, he's gonna be fine.
For me, I don't want to trade him, but if there were a top line ace pitcher available he's probably the only position player they can market.The Wonderer said:He also came up as a SS and they moved him to 3B for Correa to be at SS. I'd say he's done outstanding for moving over and learning a new position. His bat is "good enough" right now and his defensive play has been above average. Another year or two to develop in the Bigs and he could be an All Star.Joker98 said:
I completely agree with this but I recall folks bagging on him on this thread saying they'd be fine with trading him. The kid is only 2 years out of LSU, he's gonna be fine.
I want to keep him and don't think we need, or will be able to long-term afford, an ace arm. Correra is going to demand the big bucks when his contract is up and we may just need to let him go and move Bregman over to SS and promote a 3B with a big bat. Read the Crawfish Boxes article I posted a couple pages back. It talks about trades made for a WS run and how doing so in 2005 destroyed the 2006 and subsequent year teams because of the lack of a solid farm system.RABAg04 said:For me, I don't want to trade him, but if there were a top line ace pitcher available he's probably the only position player they can market.The Wonderer said:He also came up as a SS and they moved him to 3B for Correa to be at SS. I'd say he's done outstanding for moving over and learning a new position. His bat is "good enough" right now and his defensive play has been above average. Another year or two to develop in the Bigs and he could be an All Star.Joker98 said:
I completely agree with this but I recall folks bagging on him on this thread saying they'd be fine with trading him. The kid is only 2 years out of LSU, he's gonna be fine.
Sorry, not arms just the handling of "old talent" and free agency and the selling off of our farm system. Brain fart.JJxvi said:
What trades for arms in 2005 are we talking about????
JJxvi said:
Our farm system was not sold off. If was purposefully left to languish. If the idea is that we sucked after 2006 because McLane spent all his money on Pettitte and Clemens or whatever then thats a bunch of horse***** McLane was just a cheap ass who hoped to win a title before cashing out, and to offset the expense for his shiny new toys he decided we didn't need to spend on pesky things like draft picks, or signing international players, or all those other things that good teams, even ones with small payrolls have no problem spending money on.
I hope they don't trade Correa, he has MVP potential. I think Bregman could be a really good player and I don't want him traded, but he's the only one in my opinion that could be traded for another ace to try and win now.The Wonderer said:I want to keep him and don't think we need, or will be able to long-term afford, an ace arm. Correra is going to demand the big bucks when his contract is up and we may just need to let him go and move Bregman over to SS and promote a 3B with a big bat. Read the Crawfish Boxes article I posted a couple pages back. It talks about trades made for a WS run and how doing so in 2005 destroyed the 2006 and subsequent year teams because of the lack of a solid farm system.RABAg04 said:For me, I don't want to trade him, but if there were a top line ace pitcher available he's probably the only position player they can market.The Wonderer said:He also came up as a SS and they moved him to 3B for Correa to be at SS. I'd say he's done outstanding for moving over and learning a new position. His bat is "good enough" right now and his defensive play has been above average. Another year or two to develop in the Bigs and he could be an All Star.Joker98 said:
I completely agree with this but I recall folks bagging on him on this thread saying they'd be fine with trading him. The kid is only 2 years out of LSU, he's gonna be fine.
A ton of money? I don't think so. McLane's high water mark was 8th, and only got that high after what was a pretty stark shift to not even trying to develop talent. McLane was stupid, I agree, because he didnt understand that even most high dollar teams won because of their strong minor league systems.Finn Maccumhail said:JJxvi said:
Our farm system was not sold off. If was purposefully left to languish. If the idea is that we sucked after 2006 because McLane spent all his money on Pettitte and Clemens or whatever then thats a bunch of horse***** McLane was just a cheap ass who hoped to win a title before cashing out, and to offset the expense for his shiny new toys he decided we didn't need to spend on pesky things like draft picks, or signing international players, or all those other things that good teams, even ones with small payrolls have no problem spending money on.
McLane wasn't cheap he was stupid.
Go look at the payroll back then. The club spent a ton of money on aging talent who dramatically under-performed relative to their salaries.
He's been pretty strict to follow his game plan that he laid out from the date of purchase. Build the farm up and become competitive in the late 20-teens. He knew it wasn't going to be an overnight turnaround, but he wanted to be competitive year after year once getting everything back to the way it should be.Joker98 said:
Hopefully Crane doesn't squander the opportunity in front of him now to be a contending team for several more years to come. The pieces are in place.
Not sure when it'll happen, but Correa will eventually outgrow/age out of the SS position and slide to 3rd.Joker98 said:
I don't think anyone (of consequence) is getting traded off the major league roster. The two prime prospects that will be dangled are Derek Fisher and Francis Martes. As good a player as Correa is proving to be, it would be stupid to let him walk. I am betting they don't. Of the BIg 3, the guy I think will eventually leave is George Springer. It's far easier to replace an outfielder than a franchise SS with Correa's bat.
Hopefully after a few MVPs and World Series ChampionshipsHvilleAggie said:Not sure when it'll happen, but Correa will eventually outgrow/age out of the SS position and slide to 3rd.Joker98 said:
I don't think anyone (of consequence) is getting traded off the major league roster. The two prime prospects that will be dangled are Derek Fisher and Francis Martes. As good a player as Correa is proving to be, it would be stupid to let him walk. I am betting they don't. Of the BIg 3, the guy I think will eventually leave is George Springer. It's far easier to replace an outfielder than a franchise SS with Correa's bat.
HvilleAggie said:Not sure when it'll happen, but Correa will eventually outgrow/age out of the SS position and slide to 3rd.Joker98 said:
I don't think anyone (of consequence) is getting traded off the major league roster. The two prime prospects that will be dangled are Derek Fisher and Francis Martes. As good a player as Correa is proving to be, it would be stupid to let him walk. I am betting they don't. Of the BIg 3, the guy I think will eventually leave is George Springer. It's far easier to replace an outfielder than a franchise SS with Correa's bat.
Selling tickets. Need a big signing to get the folks excited again!Quote:
I don't know what McLane's motives were
I did.Ag_07 said:
You forgot Miguel Tejada and his 13M/year
Granted he did produce but we gave up a big haul to land him and paid him quite a bit.