Hey yall. Sorry i missed the party inv. Wouldve played if i was on.

Beezy2389 said:

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Warmind Live Stream Preview + Trailer April 24th


Warmind will make it tougher to reach max level

Soft cap is 340 and hard cap is 380 (without +5 mods)

The grind for the last 10 levels (370-380) is increased. They expect it to take as long for you to get those last 10 levels as it did for 340-370. Idea is to allow a comfortable path to reach end game recommended levels but make achieving max level rewarding.

Exotics that are not from weekly rewards will drop the same level as legendary engrams

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Read: "this is our attempt at more content"

Iron banner tonight?

I'll be on in a little bit! On the phone with my folks, ATM.

Turns out they are adding one more iron banner before season 3. Sounds like it'll be the last week leading up to the expansion (May 1st)

Teaser trailer for tomorrow

• Obviously Suros Regime is back

• Has there always been a day/night cycle?
• Looks like a horde mode at 18 seconds. "Level 6" "Time Remaining"
• "Unhallowed Acolyte" and "Dread Unhallowed Acolyte"
• New Exotic Sword/Staff with an aerial attack
Lot more Hive focused than I expected

Looks like Tractor Cannon will temporarily increase all void damage dealt

Also, Siva seems to be a thing?

Yep here is my long ambitious story that I know we won't see but here's how I'd write it,


We are gonna have reports that Hive looking for the Warmind on Mars to hack into and gain control of. The Warmind Charlemagne used to be in the Dust Palace but went missing a while back. These reports will lead us to Hella's Basin and, my guess, eventually the South Polar Cap where we'll receive a distress call from Ana Bray who is protecting a dormant Charlemagne from the Hive with a bunch of Frames. Charlemagne will sense us and awaken and release SIVA as a defense mechanism like Rasputin did on Earth. This will result in corrupting those frames probably attacking us as well. Climax is we fight to and somehow shut off its power source (I don't think we'd destroy it) and Ana will transfer it into an Exo giving us a new super powerful/knowledgeable NPC buddy that'll help fight the darkness in the future (basically Vision from Marvel).



Reasons this may happen:

• Reasons this is Ana Bray - There is a Warmind structure shown below her (Bray's are closely tied to Warmind tech), her wolf patch on her shoulder more closely matches her cloak in Destiny 1 (Strength of the Pack) than an Iron Lord wolf patch, there is a hidden ghost scannable (Ana Bray's Journal) in the Destiny 2 Tower above Future War Cult that mentions most of the journal entries are redacted. Also in Arecibo Adventure on Io, in the Warmind Vault, a scannable says that some data was scrubbed by someone named "Bray"

• Reasons this is NOT Ana Bray She'd dead.SupposedlyBUT come on, transferring consciousness into an Exo (a process which her family created) is much cooler than dying.
• The Hive have attempted to hack Warminds before (We stopped Omnigul from hacking Rasputin in D1)

• Charlemagne's Vault - A location cut from Destiny 1, that if my guess above is right, could be repurposed as the location of the Warmind that Ana and the Frames are protecting.
• An Exo Warmind Concept art of an Exo was described him as a puppet controlled by a Warmind. They could reveal this or make it a point to have Ana Bray transfer the Warmind into an Exo body.
• The strong presence of the Hive will lead nicely into the Fall expansion which is supposedly based around Savathun (Oryx's Sister)

Reasons this may not happen:

• Rasputin is sort of a ambiguous character who we can't tell if he is good or bad. In D1, he regained control of all of the Warminds and it's strongly hinted that he is the one controlling the music and distress signal sent in the Arecibo adventure on Io. It's very likely Charlemagne is not dormant at all and Rasputin has essentially just shifted his base of operations from the Cosmodrome to Mars. Basically puppeteering the whole situation using Charlemagne's hardware. If this were the case then I'd highly doubt Ana Bray is doing much protecting and would probably just reach out to us and ask that we help stop Rasputin's takeover.
• Maybe Rasputin is puppeting this Exo Ana Bray.

No, that didn't take like 2 hours.

I'm clearly in a speculating mood today, with the community summit vaguely hinting at all these things, I want to wildly speculate and then come back a year from now and say "Look! If you don't really think about it too much, I was totally right..."


So I've been listening to a lot of these new Community Summit videos where a bunch of content creators went up to Bungie HQ and chatted with the developers for like 7 hours in a single day and the reaction is unanimously hopeful (for the future of Destiny, not necessarily the Warmind DLC).

One thing that people are gushing over is a new game mode. Of course with their very strict NDA (supposedly a $5 million lawsuit for breaking it) they aren't sharing any specifics. That said, it's been described as unique to Destiny and could become Bungie's big thing, their sorta unique selling point. It's not clear if its for Warmind or the Fall Expanion, but I'm not sure why Bungie would allow them to immediately mention that there is a new game mode if it wouldn't be released until Fall. But any guesses as to what it is?

My fun idea that doesn't have a chance of happening is a PvP game mode thats Killzone 3's Warzone. Basically huge maps with continuous rotating random(ish) objectives. Best of 5 objectives win.



Imagine loading up the EDZ and spawning by the Church in the Trostlands and it's 6v6. One teams goal is to hold the church for 3 minutes while the others is to take it. Put a primary ammo station, a 15 second respawning special ammo station, and a single use heavy ammo station in the church. Say the team attacking takes the Church now they are up 1-0, the next battle is in the Outskirts where its classic deathmatch. 1st to 25 kills or something. Say the same team won as the Church encounter. It's 2-0, now hop on your sparrow because it's an SRL race to the Winding Cove. Other team wins it's 2-1. Next the two teams split up and it's a race to complete the servitor public event, one team goes to the Outskirts and one to Firebase Hades. Outskirt team won and it's now a tie game. The tie breaking objective is to capture the other teams flag (or rift?), which is located where their servitor died, and bring it back to your base.


Don't think about it too much, it's awesome, I promise.

That does sound like it would be fun.

Also, I've got 6 crucible boons I'd love to not spend on rando's. Anyone want to play some Iron Banner tonight?

I might be able to

Beezy2389 said:

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Yep here is my long ambitious story that I know we won't see but here's how I'd write it,


We are gonna have reports that Hive looking for the Warmind on Mars to hack into and gain control of. The Warmind Charlemagne used to be in the Dust Palace but went missing a while back. These reports will lead us to Hella's Basin and, my guess, eventually the South Polar Cap where we'll receive a distress call from Ana Bray who is protecting a dormant Charlemagne from the Hive with a bunch of Frames. Charlemagne will sense us and awaken and release SIVA as a defense mechanism like Rasputin did on Earth. This will result in corrupting those frames probably attacking us as well. Climax is we fight to and somehow shut off its power source (I don't think we'd destroy it) and Ana will transfer it into an Exo giving us a new super powerful/knowledgeable NPC buddy that'll help fight the darkness in the future (basically Vision from Marvel).



Reasons this may happen:

• Reasons this is Ana Bray - There is a Warmind structure shown below her (Bray's are closely tied to Warmind tech), her wolf patch on her shoulder more closely matches her cloak in Destiny 1 (Strength of the Pack) than an Iron Lord wolf patch, there is a hidden ghost scannable (Ana Bray's Journal) in the Destiny 2 Tower above Future War Cult that mentions most of the journal entries are redacted. Also in Arecibo Adventure on Io, in the Warmind Vault, a scannable says that some data was scrubbed by someone named "Bray"

• Reasons this is NOT Ana Bray She'd dead.SupposedlyBUT come on, transferring consciousness into an Exo (a process which her family created) is much cooler than dying.
• The Hive have attempted to hack Warminds before (We stopped Omnigul from hacking Rasputin in D1)

• Charlemagne's Vault - A location cut from Destiny 1, that if my guess above is right, could be repurposed as the location of the Warmind that Ana and the Frames are protecting.
• An Exo Warmind Concept art of an Exo was described him as a puppet controlled by a Warmind. They could reveal this or make it a point to have Ana Bray transfer the Warmind into an Exo body.
• The strong presence of the Hive will lead nicely into the Fall expansion which is supposedly based around Savathun (Oryx's Sister)

Reasons this may not happen:

• Rasputin is sort of a ambiguous character who we can't tell if he is good or bad. In D1, he regained control of all of the Warminds and it's strongly hinted that he is the one controlling the music and distress signal sent in the Arecibo adventure on Io. It's very likely Charlemagne is not dormant at all and Rasputin has essentially just shifted his base of operations from the Cosmodrome to Mars. Basically puppeteering the whole situation using Charlemagne's hardware. If this were the case then I'd highly doubt Ana Bray is doing much protecting and would probably just reach out to us and ask that we help stop Rasputin's takeover.
• Maybe Rasputin is puppeting this Exo Ana Bray.

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THIS!! is why Destiny 2 is such a flop. Take out all the bugs and errors they have made, because, well, Bungie's working as intended.

They removed everything that we loved in the original Destiny by making everything the same. There's no lore, no unique weapons to fight for, everyone has the same stuff and we all win. Yay.

In reality, no one wins. There's no competition. It's all teamshots for crucicble, which was nerfed to 4v4. When the prestige mode on the raid was released, you got a new shader on the armor, let me show you my surpised face...

Now, I get that they are scrambling to try and bring some folks back, but by making it a "safe place where everyone wins!" it makes a game that was competitive and challenging so vanilla in Destiny 2. I understand their perspective with nerfing stuff like Gjallerhorn in the first Destiny because it seemed like folks were being singled out for not having it, but not letting you get a weapon like Fatebringer unless you did the hard mode VoG gave you a reason to keep playing. There are NO incentives to keep playing if you have the gear sets right now. No unique weapon drops=no reason to grind because, let's be honest, there's no lore or story left to discover. Really, an "infinite" forest that has take the same freaking path just with a new turn on every mission for Osiris was you new story? Give me a break!!

I'll come back for the content drops and DLCs, but the Bungie live team has a lot of work cut out for them to bring me back with any consistency...

Yep, it hurts to imagine where Destiny 2 would be had they not got rid of the things that made D1 great. I'd love to see what Bungie could do if they ever were playing from ahead. I know I'm already caught in the cycle though. I have the season pass so I'm getting Warmind, I actually have faith with the Fall Expansion and onward but can't bring myself to have confidence in the D3 team to not have a repeat disaster so I'm playing for a while.

Beezy2389 said:

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Yep, it hurts to imagine where Destiny 2 would be had they not got rid of the things that made D1 great. I'd love to see what Bungie could do if they ever were playing from ahead. I know I'm already caught in the cycle though. I have the season pass so I'm getting Warmind, I actually have faith with the Fall Expansion and onward but can't bring myself to have confidence in the D3 team to not have a repeat disaster so I'm playing for a while.

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Lord knows I've been gone alot, but I'm not sure yet if anything could bring me back to D2. I leveled one of each toon and immediately felt there really wasn't much left to do. After reading about the failure of opportunity with the first DLC, I'm skeptical about the second, or if Bungie will ever right the ship.

Honestly, taking an extended hiatus might not be the worst thing for some people. Quality content is pretty slow right now and sounds like Warmind might not deliver too much more. I'm hoping that enough people stick around or come back for the fall DLC because I really do think it'll be a game changer. I trust the live team, I see their dedication to righting the ship, I just don't know about the D3 team. Hopefully they understand the mistakes and don't make changes for the sake of change like they did with D2.

I'd expect holding out on Curse of Osiris and Warmind and then getting the discounted bundle when the Fall DLC comes out would be a great amount of content to come back to but we'll see. Again, they're making a lot of good changes now and their stated plans for the future are promising, it's just a matter of if they can deliver or are they being too optimistic.

Like said I'm in it for the long run so I'll keep everyone updated.

Hopefully that arrogant ass hat (Luke Smith) keeps his hands off anything else that comes out from Bungie (with regards to D2). I would love to hear what that jerk has to say now that the studio is undoing everything he pushed on us.

kill0509 said:

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Beezy2389 said:

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Yep here is my long ambitious story that I know we won't see but here's how I'd write it,


We are gonna have reports that Hive looking for the Warmind on Mars to hack into and gain control of. The Warmind Charlemagne used to be in the Dust Palace but went missing a while back. These reports will lead us to Hella's Basin and, my guess, eventually the South Polar Cap where we'll receive a distress call from Ana Bray who is protecting a dormant Charlemagne from the Hive with a bunch of Frames. Charlemagne will sense us and awaken and release SIVA as a defense mechanism like Rasputin did on Earth. This will result in corrupting those frames probably attacking us as well. Climax is we fight to and somehow shut off its power source (I don't think we'd destroy it) and Ana will transfer it into an Exo giving us a new super powerful/knowledgeable NPC buddy that'll help fight the darkness in the future (basically Vision from Marvel).



Reasons this may happen:

• Reasons this is Ana Bray - There is a Warmind structure shown below her (Bray's are closely tied to Warmind tech), her wolf patch on her shoulder more closely matches her cloak in Destiny 1 (Strength of the Pack) than an Iron Lord wolf patch, there is a hidden ghost scannable (Ana Bray's Journal) in the Destiny 2 Tower above Future War Cult that mentions most of the journal entries are redacted. Also in Arecibo Adventure on Io, in the Warmind Vault, a scannable says that some data was scrubbed by someone named "Bray"

• Reasons this is NOT Ana Bray She'd dead.SupposedlyBUT come on, transferring consciousness into an Exo (a process which her family created) is much cooler than dying.
• The Hive have attempted to hack Warminds before (We stopped Omnigul from hacking Rasputin in D1)

• Charlemagne's Vault - A location cut from Destiny 1, that if my guess above is right, could be repurposed as the location of the Warmind that Ana and the Frames are protecting.
• An Exo Warmind Concept art of an Exo was described him as a puppet controlled by a Warmind. They could reveal this or make it a point to have Ana Bray transfer the Warmind into an Exo body.
• The strong presence of the Hive will lead nicely into the Fall expansion which is supposedly based around Savathun (Oryx's Sister)

Reasons this may not happen:

• Rasputin is sort of a ambiguous character who we can't tell if he is good or bad. In D1, he regained control of all of the Warminds and it's strongly hinted that he is the one controlling the music and distress signal sent in the Arecibo adventure on Io. It's very likely Charlemagne is not dormant at all and Rasputin has essentially just shifted his base of operations from the Cosmodrome to Mars. Basically puppeteering the whole situation using Charlemagne's hardware. If this were the case then I'd highly doubt Ana Bray is doing much protecting and would probably just reach out to us and ask that we help stop Rasputin's takeover.
• Maybe Rasputin is puppeting this Exo Ana Bray.

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THIS!! is why Destiny 2 is such a flop. Take out all the bugs and errors they have made, because, well, Bungie's working as intended.

They removed everything that we loved in the original Destiny by making everything the same. There's no lore, no unique weapons to fight for, everyone has the same stuff and we all win. Yay.

In reality, no one wins. There's no competition. It's all teamshots for crucicble, which was nerfed to 4v4. When the prestige mode on the raid was released, you got a new shader on the armor, let me show you my surpised face...

Now, I get that they are scrambling to try and bring some folks back, but by making it a "safe place where everyone wins!" it makes a game that was competitive and challenging so vanilla in Destiny 2. I understand their perspective with nerfing stuff like Gjallerhorn in the first Destiny because it seemed like folks were being singled out for not having it, but not letting you get a weapon like Fatebringer unless you did the hard mode VoG gave you a reason to keep playing. There are NO incentives to keep playing if you have the gear sets right now. No unique weapon drops=no reason to grind because, let's be honest, there's no lore or story left to discover. Really, an "infinite" forest that has take the same freaking path just with a new turn on every mission for Osiris was you new story? Give me a break!!

I'll come back for the content drops and DLCs, but the Bungie live team has a lot of work cut out for them to bring me back with any consistency...

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kill0509 said:

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THIS!! is why Destiny 2 is such a flop. Take out all the bugs and errors they have made, because, well, Bungie's working as intended.

They removed everything that we loved in the original Destiny by making everything the same. There's no lore, no unique weapons to fight for, everyone has the same stuff and we all win. Yay.

In reality, no one wins. There's no competition. It's all teamshots for crucicble, which was nerfed to 4v4. When the prestige mode on the raid was released, you got a new shader on the armor, let me show you my surpised face...

Now, I get that they are scrambling to try and bring some folks back, but by making it a "safe place where everyone wins!" it makes a game that was competitive and challenging so vanilla in Destiny 2. I understand their perspective with nerfing stuff like Gjallerhorn in the first Destiny because it seemed like folks were being singled out for not having it, but not letting you get a weapon like Fatebringer unless you did the hard mode VoG gave you a reason to keep playing. There are NO incentives to keep playing if you have the gear sets right now. No unique weapon drops=no reason to grind because, let's be honest, there's no lore or story left to discover. Really, an "infinite" forest that has take the same freaking path just with a new turn on every mission for Osiris was you new story? Give me a break!!

I'll come back for the content drops and DLCs, but the Bungie live team has a lot of work cut out for them to bring me back with any consistency...

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This right here.

They took some of the best gameplay on consoles and made it unfun. That takes some dedication.

Whomever thought of the two primary slots needs to never make a decision about a video game again. That single decision alone really affects the depth of the gameplay, loadouts, and fun factor. I mean...Just wow. Its not immediately prevalent at first, but once you really get into the game, and in the end game when you are pushing at the edge, you see just how flat this makes the game in terms of WOW factor.

That, and nerf all the fun guns (guns worth chasing) into the damn ground, you are left with a really boring shooter.

I picked up Titanfall 2 on sale for the campaign. EFFING AWESOME 6 hours. Movement/guns, all felt awesome. Hell, Warframe now feels better than Destiny 2 does.

The DLC probably wont do enough for me to bring me back. I'm cautiously optimistic about the fall DLC, but this is no longer 2014/2015. There are alot of awesome games out there that provide alot of the same things Destiny does.

Doublepost

Im debating adding another dlc, just not worth my time...

Thinking about where Destiny could be right now if they would have just built on what they had instead of trying to reinvent the wheel in the worst way possible makes my head hurt

But if you want to watch the stream today it starts at 12pm here https://www.twitch.tv/bungie/

Officially starts in about 7 minutes. I still enjoy getting excited over these.

DLC 2

• Going back to mars. Will see the story of Rasputin & Warminds as well as the 'Brays'.
• Main enemy seems to be a mix of cabal and new frozen hive
• You can use your sparrow on Mars
• New endgame activity: horde mode public event. 7 rounds and get's harder every round. The final round is a special boss with special mechanics. There are 5 unique bosses that will cycle every week
• Cool new weapon you can use in the activity that is a 'rocket launcher spear'
• Unique armor and weapons will drop from this activity
• People that work at Bungie still call green ammo special, not energy lol
• They've created new perks to add to the new weapons they're introducing
• Crucible will now have 2 new ranked modes. 1 where you rank up with every win but can't drop (valor). The other (glory) is more competitive and you gain rank with wins and lose rank with losses. Leaving a match early makes you lose rank. Once you max your competitive rank you can reset it and your emblem will track how many times you max your rank
• Private matches are back
• There are new emblems and weapons to chase based on your crucible rank.
• New exotic changes to just about every exotic weapon
• 2 new strikes
• New Raid Lair: Spire of Stars
• Emote wheel

Some strike enemies

Here's my updated prediction

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We are gonna have reports that Hive looking for the Warmind on Mars to hack into and gain control of. The Warmind Charlemagne used to be in the Dust Palace but went missing a while back. These reports will lead us to Hella's Basin and, my guess, eventually the South Polar Cap where we'll receive a distress call from Ana Bray who is protecting a dormant Charlemagne from the Hive with a bunch of Frames. Charlemagne will sense us and awaken and release SIVA as a defense mechanism like Rasputin did on Earth. This will result in corrupting those frames probably attacking us as well. Climax is we fight to and somehow shut off its power source (I don't think we'd destroy it) and Ana will transfer it into an Exo giving us a new super powerful/knowledgeable NPC buddy that'll help fight the darkness in the future (basically Vision from Marvel).

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Damn so close!

Although Ana did have some futuristic scanning eye ability.

But this was pretty much spot on

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• Rasputin is sort of a ambiguous character who we can't tell if he is good or bad. In D1, he regained control of all of the Warminds and it's strongly hinted that he is the one controlling the music and distress signal sent in the Arecibo adventure on Io. It's very likely Charlemagne is not dormant at all and Rasputin has essentially just shifted his base of operations from the Cosmodrome to Mars. Basically puppeteering the whole situation using Charlemagne's hardware. If this were the case then I'd highly doubt Ana Bray is doing much protecting and would probably just reach out to us and ask that we help stop Rasputin's takeover.

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• That awesome new game mode everyone has been talking about is not this horde mode but will come at a later date (probably fall expansion).
• Redrix's Claymore - legendary high impact pulse rifle that is incredibly hard to get. Perks are outlaw which now no longer has a cooldown, each precision headshot allows blazing fast reload and desperado where when you activate outlaw, your rate of fire increases for 7 seconds (basically: get a precision kill, reload quickly, that turns your gun from a high impact pulse to a high rate of fire pulse without the decrease in bullet damage) This is a PvP reward gun, you get it by reaching one of the highest ranks in competitive PvP and it's only available during season 3. Basically almost no one is going to be able to get this weapon. Each season will bring a new weapon reward tied to competitive PvP rank.
• New legendary cluster bomb rocket launcher.
• New submachine gun that is the 1st in a new archtype (Aggresive Frame) fires 750 rounds/minute. Has overpenetration and a new perk where if you take down a shield (assuming elemental shields although the footage did show knights as having physical handheld shields) you'll get a buff to kinetic precision damage. Supposedly works in PvP too.
• Full auto Shotgun (Raid/Perfect Paradox type). Attacking after a melee will increase damage, handling, etc.
• Rocket Launcher - Same archetype as Sins of the Past and has Cluster Bombs

Masterwork Exotics - Upgrading an exotic to a masterwork will add a new hidden perk (or new feature) that will change the way the gun works in a big way. Doesn't specifically mention how the upgrades will drop but Riskrunners has to do with strike bosses (maybe others are different). Viligance Wing as a masterwork will be pretty cool apparently (damn NDAs)

List of Exotics that are releasing with the DLC (at least the non-hidden ones)

https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/24/17276260/destiny-2-warmind-expansion-exotic-weapon-armor-list

Not personally a fan of the ugly exotic helmets :/. Give me something sleek damn it! Also not too crazy about some of the D1s they are bringing back. Suros & Armamentarium yes, everything else eh. Maybe perks will be changed for the better.

Also from the official destiny product page...

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Now free, the Hive swarm in service to their god Xol. Help Ana discover her past and destroy the Hive's gargantuan worm-god before it is too late.

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I know it doesn't say WE, specifically, will destroy a gargantuan worm god but...please...Bungie...Don't tease me like this.