Rocag said:

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Logos Stick said:

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There is a way, its just not the ******ed way you want to go about it. HTH

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Let me guess, we just need more guns?

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More gun free signs.

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Muy said:

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Best way to prevent this is to open up mental asylums again and start locking up the lunatics.

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What's a lunatic and who determines just who the lunatics are?

Careful especially when those doing the evaluating overwhelming hate you and any views you may have.

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We have an Attorney General who unilaterally approves whether someone posting something dangerous about election officials should get arrested. I'm certain everyone of these lunatic shooters has a much more evident digital footprint.

Muy said:

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Best way to prevent this is to open up mental asylums again and start locking up the lunatics.

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...and crack down on our overly medicated society, and children's' access to social media poison, and bring god/religion and families/dads back into society.

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Guns kills people we are still running with this tired old argument.

Try him as an adult and execute him as an adult.

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Funny how folks calling for gun control now but not a peep when they took a shot at Trump.

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Really really strange, isn't it.

I would be careful posting pics, a quick google search shows this kid is from Oklahoma and might be the wrong one. Don't always trust what you see especially on FB.

People are claiming Apalachee High School Mass Shooter Colt Gray has a TikTok account that is obsessed with Bryan Kohberger.https://t.co/iy7yXq6Bda pic.twitter.com/TCmbh8KlGM

— JLR© (@JLRINVESTIGATES) September 4, 2024

Can't say it is his account, but it has been deleted now.

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Try him as an adult and execute him as an adult.

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Just looked it up. Any child over 13 can be tried as an adult depending on the crime. And yes, murder is at the top of the list. Life in prison is much more likely than execution, assuming the kid is not adjudicated to be insane and locked up in a mental institution.

i think that's a fake

saw a bigger version, roster picture from an okie hs.

There are a bunch of ways to prevent it.

Problem is that almost all of them don't involve the liberal wet dream of confiscating all guns or the ultra moron wet dream of turning all schools into defacto prisons.

As soon as soccer moms, liberal educators and stupid people that think taking away my firearms will stop this grow an actual brain, discussions can be had.

But since that will never actually happen...we are where we are and nothing much will change, just like with pretty much everything in the education system.

Roper v. Simmons says we can't execute anyone who committed the crime when under 18.

Texas velvet maestro said:

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i think that's a fake

saw a bigger version, roster picture from an okie hs.

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I think that kid in the picture is out of Oklahoma. Baseball has a ton of data that doesn't point to GA. I feel for the kid in the picture, if I am right.

Rapier108 said:

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Roper v. Simmons says we can't execute anyone who committed the crime when under 18.

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That and executions are very rare in Georgia to start with.

GoAgs11 said:

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Guns kills people we are still running with this tired old argument.

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As long as morons exist and procreate, we will have stupid arguments like this one.

A couple of the student interviews knew pretty much who it was they said, based on how he acted and said he very rarely even made class they thought if it ever happened it would be him. Sounds like there were red flags if true…

C@LAg said:

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Rocag said:

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Logos Stick said:

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There is a way, its just not the ******ed way you want to go about it. HTH

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Let me guess, we just need more guns?

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absolutely without question.

but we also need to be able to get back to punishing people.

punishing students who act up and disturb schools.
punishing criminals and making them actually serve time

let us know when your side is ready to hold people accountable for their action.

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That's a BS answer. Incarceration rates in this country are higher now than they were in the 1990's in the pre-Columbine era. There was a steady rise from the 1970's to a peak in about 2010 where it's leveled off. The United States incarcerates a higher percentage of its population than any other country in the entire world. The United States has more people in its prisons than China does, despite the fact that China has over a billion people living there. As of 2020, it's estimated that 1 in every 5 people currently in prison was in prison in the USA.

We punish people plenty in this country and it clearly isn't making a difference here. So try again.

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A couple of the student interviews knew pretty much who it was they said, based on how he acted and said he very rarely even made class they thought if it ever happened it would be him. Sounds like there were red flags if true…

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That's not good for the parents, if true.

The people we need to put in institutions are the mentally ill, and we are putting almost none of them away

Rocag said:

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Logos Stick said:

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There is a way, its just not the ******ed way you want to go about it. HTH

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Let me guess, we just need more guns?

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Many school districts(hundreds?) in Texas already have armed staff and/or guards. It works, unless the armed officer is not on the school grounds for some reason....cough cough

CanyonAg77 said:

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The people we need to put in institutions are the mentally ill, and we are putting almost none of them away

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ACLU started this in the 70s in California, its the reason we dont have places to put them

Rocag said:

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C@LAg said:

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Rocag said:

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Logos Stick said:

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There is a way, its just not the ******ed way you want to go about it. HTH

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Let me guess, we just need more guns?

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absolutely without question.

but we also need to be able to get back to punishing people.

punishing students who act up and disturb schools.
punishing criminals and making them actually serve time

let us know when your side is ready to hold people accountable for their action.

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That's a BS answer. Incarceration rates in this country are higher now than they were in the 1990's in the pre-Columbine era. There was a steady rise from the 1970's to a peak in about 2010 where it's leveled off. The United States incarcerates a higher percentage of its population than any other country in the entire world. The United States has more people in its prisons than China does, despite the fact that China has over a billion people living there. As of 2020, it's estimated that 1 in every 5 people currently in prison was in prison in the USA.

We punish people plenty in this country and it clearly isn't making a difference here. So try again.

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Your stats are suspect, but continue on.

aggiehawg said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Roper v. Simmons says we can't execute anyone who committed the crime when under 18.

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That and executions are very rare in Georgia to start with.

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That's extremely disappointing in this case. I'm glad the kids being charged as an adult, but every type of punishment should be on the table.

It's long past time real justice affects minors who commit these types of atrocities.

Texas velvet maestro said:

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Prayers for the victims. Two dead kids?


being an awful person, my 2nd thought is the anti 2A folks needed a school shooting leading up to Nov. I hope this isn't horribly exploited by politicians.

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We don't have a gun problem, we have a traditional family destroying evil democrat problem.

Rocag said:

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C@LAg said:

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Rocag said:

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Logos Stick said:

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There is a way, its just not the ******ed way you want to go about it. HTH

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Let me guess, we just need more guns?

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absolutely without question.

but we also need to be able to get back to punishing people.

punishing students who act up and disturb schools.
punishing criminals and making them actually serve time

let us know when your side is ready to hold people accountable for their action.

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That's a BS answer. Incarceration rates in this country are higher now than they were in the 1990's in the pre-Columbine era. There was a steady rise from the 1970's to a peak in about 2010 where it's leveled off. The United States incarcerates a higher percentage of its population than any other country in the entire world. The United States has more people in its prisons than China does, despite the fact that China has over a billion people living there. As of 2020, it's estimated that 1 in every 5 people currently in prison was in prison in the USA.

We punish people plenty in this country and it clearly isn't making a difference here. So try again.

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Not nearly severely enough. That is why so many who get arrested have a long rap sheet.

No Spin Ag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Roper v. Simmons says we can't execute anyone who committed the crime when under 18.

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That and executions are very rare in Georgia to start with.

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That's extremely disappointing in this case. I'm glad the kids being charged as an adult, but every type of punishment should be on the table.

It's long past time real justice affects minors who commit these types of atrocities.

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It was a case based in Georgia that struck down capital punishment in 1972, Furman v. Georgia.

Executions in Georgia did not begin again until the very early 80s. As of this year, only a little over 75 executions have occurred with a few dozen still on death row. Just doesn't happen very often.

aggiehawg said:

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aggiebrother33 said:

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A couple of the student interviews knew pretty much who it was they said, based on how he acted and said he very rarely even made class they thought if it ever happened it would be him. Sounds like there were red flags if true…

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That's not good for the parents, if true.

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My thoughts exactly.

Horrifying

POWERFUL: A 14-year-old Apalachee High School student recounts the traumatic scene as the sh**ting started.

"My teacher got in front of me like he was guarding [me]."

"In the midst of it, I was just thanking God, because he had his hands around me." pic.twitter.com/MqM3O2FrkV

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) September 4, 2024

No Spin Ag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Roper v. Simmons says we can't execute anyone who committed the crime when under 18.

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That and executions are very rare in Georgia to start with.

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That's extremely disappointing in this case. I'm glad the kids being charged as an adult, but every type of punishment should be on the table.

It's long past time real justice affects minors who commit these types of atrocities.

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Yep, old enough to kill, old enough to die for killing.

samurai_science said:

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Rocag said:

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C@LAg said:

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Rocag said:

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Logos Stick said:

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There is a way, its just not the ******ed way you want to go about it. HTH

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Let me guess, we just need more guns?

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absolutely without question.

but we also need to be able to get back to punishing people.

punishing students who act up and disturb schools.
punishing criminals and making them actually serve time

let us know when your side is ready to hold people accountable for their action.

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That's a BS answer. Incarceration rates in this country are higher now than they were in the 1990's in the pre-Columbine era. There was a steady rise from the 1970's to a peak in about 2010 where it's leveled off. The United States incarcerates a higher percentage of its population than any other country in the entire world. The United States has more people in its prisons than China does, despite the fact that China has over a billion people living there. As of 2020, it's estimated that 1 in every 5 people currently in prison was in prison in the USA.

We punish people plenty in this country and it clearly isn't making a difference here. So try again.

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Your stats are suspect, but continue on.

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Are Xinjiang internment camps counted as prisons? The Chinese call them vocational education and training centers

If you can provide any respected source that disagrees with any of the points I made in that post I will happily retract that statement. Go ahead, do your own research. You'll find that the USA imprisons more people than any other nation in the world, I'm confident on that.

But I will give you one I did just catch. The rate was highest among developed countries, with four or five small countries having higher rates. So we're still about in the top five in pure rate comparisons.

Rocag said:

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If you can provide any respected source that disagrees with any of the points I made in that post I will happily retract that statement. Go ahead, do your own research. You'll find that the USA imprisons more people than any other nation in the world, I'm confident on that.

But I will give you one I did just catch. The rate was highest among developed countries, with four or five small countries having higher rates. So we're still about in the top five in pure rate comparisons.

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Now do the crime stats on the cities where the police have been defunded (of those that actually report their stats correctly) and cashless bail has been implemented. We don't have an "over incarceration" problem. We have a crime problem.

Blaming the prisons for the criminals is about as backwards as it gets. True Democrat logic.

aggiehawg said:

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aggiebrother33 said:

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A couple of the student interviews knew pretty much who it was they said, based on how he acted and said he very rarely even made class they thought if it ever happened it would be him. Sounds like there were red flags if true…

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That's not good for the parents, if true.

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Nor the school administrators and teachers. Back in the day when teachers cared about the kid who stayed in the corner and assisted them. Now only the trans and other "special kids" get any attention.