Democrat elected officials in Georgia already blaming guns and calling for gun bans/confiscation.

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Would just like to point out that these didn't happen 50 years ago when guns were not locked up, but the crazy people were.

You could have a rifle on the rack in your pickup in the school parking lot, but bad kids were suspended, sent to juvie, sent to a children's home, sent to reform school, made to enlist in the army, or in a mental institution.

Now the only ones getting locked up are the kids who accidentally bring hunting ammo to school in their car, and the bad kids are "accepted" and "celebrated.

Add social media and 24 hour news cycle, and here we are.

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There's a lot more crazy people now. Locking them all up would bankrupt the country.

Rapier108 said:

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Democrat elected officials in Georgia already blaming guns and calling for gun bans/confiscation.

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Gotta take advantage of this narrow window to scream for gun control before it comes out as a drug deal gone wrong or gang related beef and it gets memory holed

So, I'm sure your solution is to just ban guns then?

Maroon Dawn said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Democrat elected officials in Georgia already blaming guns and calling for gun bans/confiscation.

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Gotta take advantage of this narrow window to scream for gun control before it comes out as a drug deal gone wrong or gang related beef and it gets memory holed

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It's a losing position. It just is. It's one of those positions that may get the base riled up but in the end when it matter gun control in most parts of the country is a losing position.

Strange that Medina ISD doesn't have these problems:

No. I believe in the 2nd amendment. Not sure what a reasonable solution is.

Can't speak to the details here, but at my kids HS, there is always a police car parked out front. All the doors are locked. At the main entrances, there are two sets of doors.

Point being, harden the targets. Funny how there are so few inner city mass shootings like the ones we see in the suburbs.

As one would expect, we have about eleventy reporters on this. I somehow avoided getting shuffled there today, but I've already been told I'll be on it in the morning.

Aggie95 said:

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at least they got the shooter alive this time...seems like it's been a while in these scenarios.

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Be warned though, if he's a white shooter, the left will go crazy about him being alive only because he's white, even though many scenarios prove that wrong.

I'm so sick of these sickos doing this crap.

dallasiteinsa02 said:

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53.4%
Minority Enrollment

46.6%
White

26.3%
Hispanic

17.6%
Black

5.4%
Two or More Races

3.9%
Asian

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American Indian/Alaska Native

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Effing Alaskan Natives. AGAIN. Send 'em back.

We have the same setup but both are glass windows, would only slow down someone with a gun trying to get in but I think that is the point. Plus cameras all over the place

BlueSmoke said:

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Can't speak to the details here, but at my kids HS, there is always a police car parked out front. All the doors are locked. At the main entrances, there are two sets of doors.

Point being, harden the targets. Funny how there are so few inner city mass shootings like the ones we see in the suburbs.

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Isn't that a shame. In my day you could walk in and out of any school. That said, I'm glad to hear it

UTExan said:

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Strange that Medina ISD doesn't have these problems:

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Every school should have this posted in front of their building. A lot of these shooters do these things in so-called no gun zones for a reason. I'm sure the left wouldn't do it, but they should. Even if they don't have them there.

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There's a lot more crazy people now. Locking them all up would bankrupt the country.

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About 500,000 were hospitalized in 1955.

About 37,000 are today.

Population is over double 1955 levels, and we are institutionalizing less than 8% of the numbers we did when the population was half of today's.

You don't have to lock them all up, just start with the worst and work your way up. Been to Albuquerque lately? What they spend on homeless and security to protect normal people from homeless would easily pay to care for tens of thousands.

CanyonAg77 said:

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There's a lot more crazy people now. Locking them all up would bankrupt the country.

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About 500,000 were hospitalized in 1955.

About 37,000 are today.

Population is over double 1955 levels, and we are institutionalizing less than 8% of the numbers we did when the population was half of today's.

You don't have to lock them all up, just start with the worst and work your way up. Been to Albuquerque lately? What they spend on homeless and security to protect normal people from homeless would easily pay to care for tens of thousands.

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This is such an obvious answer. It amazes me that people either don't see it or don't want to admit it.

CanyonAg77 said:

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There's a lot more crazy people now. Locking them all up would bankrupt the country.

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About 500,000 were hospitalized in 1955.

About 37,000 are today.

Population is over double 1955 levels, and we are institutionalizing less than 8% of the numbers we did when the population was half of today's.

You don't have to lock them all up, just start with the worst and work your way up. Been to Albuquerque lately? What they spend on homeless and security to protect normal people from homeless would easily pay to care for tens of thousands.

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One reason I avoid staying overnight in Albuquerque and Santa Fe.

Good points. I didn't know those numbers. Thanks for sharing.

I imagine the number of really mentally ill people is in the millions. Having lived in LA and now Fort Lauderdale, they're everywhere. Talking to themselves. Many are violent.

Atlanta, Cleveland, Dallas, NYC, OKC, Kansas City, I've seen the same thing.

They are all over every downtown.

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Aggie95 said:

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at least they got the shooter alive this time...seems like it's been a while in these scenarios.

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Be warned though, if he's a white shooter, the left will go crazy about him being alive only because he's white, even though many scenarios prove that wrong.

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If he's white, the shooting will be blamed on racism. If he's black, it'll be placed on racism. Or Mexican.

BallerStaf2003 said:

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Good points. I didn't know those numbers. Thanks for sharing.

I imagine the number of really mentally ill people is in the millions. Having lived in LA and now Fort Lauderdale, they're everywhere. Talking to themselves. Many are violent.

Atlanta, Cleveland, Dallas, NYC, OKC, Kansas City, I've seen the same thing.

They are all over every downtown.

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It's really shocking to me. I grew up in Ft Worth and lived the first 38 years of my life in big cities all over the country. Now after being in the country for ten years I go back and it is crazy to see how many there are. It is much much worse than it was. I think there are a lot of reasons for that. One being when they were locked up they didn't breed.

Watch soft white underbelly on YouTube.

BallerStaf2003 said:

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No. I believe in the 2nd amendment. Not sure what a reasonable solution is.

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the best solution is never on the surface. We need a country of mentally healthy people and a strong deterrence to violent people.

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In this deal it sounds like someone brought a sidearm into a classroom

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One reason I avoid staying overnight in Albuquerque and Santa Fe.

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Unfortunately, we travel there often on business. The good news is that most hotels will provide security, and most places are relatively safe. Leave nothing in your car. Keep your head out of your butt, and avoid homeless.

In Santa Fe, stay north of town at someplace like Buffalo Thunder.

We've been going to ABQ for around 20 years. Have had scammers approach us in the hotel lot twice, one crazy person scream at me for ignoring them (on purpose) and one attempted car break in.

The latter turned out to be funny. It was a 17-year-old chevy pickup. They tried to punch the lock and turn it. Instead, it broke the plastic door handle, and the lock fell into the door. They couldn't open the door, we could still get in and out with the key fob and electric locks.

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-homeless-people-are-in-the-us-what-does-the-data-miss/

650,000 homeless according to this. Some are homeless by choice, some by circumstance, I suspect that 75% are mentally ill

Always the most depressing threads on this site. Watching both sides of political teams inserting their nonsense. The facts will be interesting. Is it a dispute or mass shooting?

Rapier108 said:

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Democrat elected officials in Georgia already blaming guns and calling for gun bans/confiscation.

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I guess I'm not a true 2A patriot, because I would absolutely welcome gun bans/confiscation of Democrats.

CanyonAg77 said:

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https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-homeless-people-are-in-the-us-what-does-the-data-miss/

650,000 homeless according to this. Some are homeless by choice, some by circumstance, I suspect that 75% are mentally ill

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I would put that more at 95-98% mentally ill. There are very few that are circumstantial. Though I did actually meet one the other day that was 19 but that's a little different story.

Fentanyl is making the situation exponentially worse.

Bearpitbull said:

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Always the most depressing threads on this site. Watching both sides of political teams inserting their nonsense. The facts will be interesting. Is it a dispute or mass shooting?

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It sure what you are reading. Right now I read a whole bunch of people sad about the situation and agreeing with each other.

Being reported that 4 are deceased.

BallerStaf2003 said:

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No. I believe in the 2nd amendment. Not sure what a reasonable solution is.

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Carry. More good people in the world than bad. Being out gunned is a deterrent. Peace through superior firepower.

Who is the shooter?

Zero info yet KJP pushing for banning weapons.

Doesn't matter, KJP is in her briefing already blaming guns, magazines, and Republicans.

I wonder if some of the students tried to stop him.. he was held down. that's why he survived.

just thinking about a classroom situation

Joe will whisper talk then randomly get enraged and start screaming in his presser.

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Zero info yet KJP pushing for banning weapons.

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Who cares. It is a losing issue.

It's like Republicans pushing for a total abortion ban. It gets the hard right excited but in the end is a losing position electorally. So is election deniers for both sides. Losing positions electorally. Gun confiscation is a losing position. They can grandstand all they want.