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FireAg said:

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Sorry I was right about the polling averages, and I'm sorry they didn't go your way…

I tried to warn y'all…

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The ones in 2020? That said that Trump lost the election?

Those were accurate, right?

Because, I'd hate to think you were being hypocritical about polls...

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You're lashing out…I forgive you…rough day…

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America's Sweetheart Ron DeSantis is hanging up his heels and suspending his presidential campaign. Take a look back with us at his spectacular disaster of a campaign. Laugh at what was, enjoy what could have been. pic.twitter.com/Q6erVTefLe

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) January 21, 2024

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Remember...the Lincoln Project was started as a "Republican" project to prevent Trump from being elected.

Of course, it was really a left wing project disguised that way and as time goes on, they show their true colors more and more.

FireAg said:

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FireAg said:

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Sorry I was right about the polling averages, and I'm sorry they didn't go your way…

I tried to warn y'all…

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The ones in 2020? That said that Trump lost the election?

Those were accurate, right?

Because, I'd hate to think you were being hypocritical about polls...

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You're lashing out…I forgive you…rough day…

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You don't learn how to not alienate people. Be quiet.

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So you DeSantis guys are going to back Trump, right?

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If the choice is Biden or Trump that's not really a choice at all. I hate it but I'll hold my nose and vote for Trump again in the general.

It's just incredibly frustrating to watch the one viable Republican candidate that Biden is likely to beat become the nominee largely on the basis of emotion and spite from the GOP electorate. Biden is probably going to become the most statistically unpopular President in US history to successfully run for re-election, and it would have been so easy to prevent. But instead we're gonna pull a Dan Campbell and keep going for two from the 7 because we're pissed.

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You brought up viability.

Nearly all the polls have asked this in their surveys, but it doesn't get reported in the top line results.
See page 16
https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2024-01/Reuters%20Ipsos%20Large%20Sample%20Survey%20%23%201%20January%202024%20Topline.pdf

This one is for primary voters. Trump loses a third of GOP voters here.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/19/us/elections/times-siena-poll-likely-electorate-crosstabs.html

RCP doesn't aggregate it either.

If convicted, it's going to be an electoral disaster. Say what you will about the validity of the charges, Trump avoiding conviction on every one of the 91 charges is extremely unlikely.

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The validity of the charges is laughable…

The people pursuing these things are enemies of the republic…something is eventually going to have to come to a head…and the there will be blood in the streets…

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BTW, this is the stuff that turns off the independents even though it makes MAGA giddy.

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Oh boo hoo, seriously? So they'd rather waste a vote instead?

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And I see you don't understand that the entire electorate is not comprised of MAGA.

Independents won't view it as wasting a vote. They'll view it as not voting for someone they really don't like or want to be POTUS. It's really not a difficult concept.

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It's not difficult. Voting for some random independent is going to be a wasted vote. We need to boot out the Marxist, not help them. But you do you.

Dark_Knight said:

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So you DeSantis guys are going to back Trump, right?

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Of course

Texas is not purple stop with that nonsene, GOP dominates this state.

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TexAgs91 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Boo

We deserve the two moronic, dementia-addled liberals then.

Third party it is. This country is filled with abject morons. Trump? Biden? This country is ****ed.

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Splitting the GOP vote is a vote for Biden or whatever commie takes over. You may not like it but it's irrefutable basic math.

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Vote for Trump OR ELSE!

The guilt trip campaign slogan.

My guy sucks balls but the other guy is worse.

Rah Team!

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Stop your whining and show the math to support your position.

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Math?

I'm in Texas. If Trump needs my vote to win, he's REALLY ****ed up the election.

There. Math.

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Ha! Texas is purple

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You don't know what a purple state looks like then.

When was the last Democrat elected in a state-wide election? How about the vote for POTUS?

How did the RGV pick up REPUBLICAN seats in the last election?

As is typical, the big city centers are blue. But the rest of the state stays solidly red...and hispanics are either staying at around 35/65 GOP or moving to a move even split.

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Dark_Knight said:

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FireAg said:

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TRM said:

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You brought up viability.

Nearly all the polls have asked this in their surveys, but it doesn't get reported in the top line results.
See page 16
https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2024-01/Reuters%20Ipsos%20Large%20Sample%20Survey%20%23%201%20January%202024%20Topline.pdf

This one is for primary voters. Trump loses a third of GOP voters here.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/19/us/elections/times-siena-poll-likely-electorate-crosstabs.html

RCP doesn't aggregate it either.

If convicted, it's going to be an electoral disaster. Say what you will about the validity of the charges, Trump avoiding conviction on every one of the 91 charges is extremely unlikely.

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The validity of the charges is laughable…

The people pursuing these things are enemies of the republic…something is eventually going to have to come to a head…and the there will be blood in the streets…

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BTW, this is the stuff that turns off the independents even though it makes MAGA giddy.

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Oh boo hoo, seriously? So they'd rather waste a vote instead?

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And I see you don't understand that the entire electorate is not comprised of MAGA.

Independents won't view it as wasting a vote. They'll view it as not voting for someone they really don't like or want to be POTUS. It's really not a difficult concept.

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It's not difficult. Voting for some random independent is going to be a wasted vote. We need to boot out the Marxist, not help them. But you do you.

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No no no! Some people don't get their way so they're totally gonna show YOU what's up!

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Texas is not purple stop with that nonsene, GOP dominates this state.

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I don't agree with you much, but this is 100% correct.

Dark_Knight said:

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Dark_Knight said:

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FireAg said:

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TRM said:

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You brought up viability.

Nearly all the polls have asked this in their surveys, but it doesn't get reported in the top line results.
See page 16
https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2024-01/Reuters%20Ipsos%20Large%20Sample%20Survey%20%23%201%20January%202024%20Topline.pdf

This one is for primary voters. Trump loses a third of GOP voters here.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/19/us/elections/times-siena-poll-likely-electorate-crosstabs.html

RCP doesn't aggregate it either.

If convicted, it's going to be an electoral disaster. Say what you will about the validity of the charges, Trump avoiding conviction on every one of the 91 charges is extremely unlikely.

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The validity of the charges is laughable…

The people pursuing these things are enemies of the republic…something is eventually going to have to come to a head…and the there will be blood in the streets…

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BTW, this is the stuff that turns off the independents even though it makes MAGA giddy.

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Oh boo hoo, seriously? So they'd rather waste a vote instead?

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And I see you don't understand that the entire electorate is not comprised of MAGA.

Independents won't view it as wasting a vote. They'll view it as not voting for someone they really don't like or want to be POTUS. It's really not a difficult concept.

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It's not difficult. Voting for some random independent is going to be a wasted vote. We need to boot out the Marxist, not help them. But you do you.

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I learned my lesson in '92. I voted for Ross Perot (independent) because I didn't like Bush Sr. You have 2 right leaning candidates that between them would get probably 60% of the country to vote for them. Instead, the 40% of the country wins with Clinton.

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bobbranco said:

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I think some grown ass men have some bizarre and scary dreams about Trump.

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You're talking about his supporters, right?

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Nope. Those with TDS. Keeps them up at night and makes them hide their wimmen. Lol.

Not surprising, but timing is a little odd. Would be a great VP.

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Dark_Knight said:

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Dark_Knight said:

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FireAg said:

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TRM said:

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You brought up viability.

Nearly all the polls have asked this in their surveys, but it doesn't get reported in the top line results.
See page 16
https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2024-01/Reuters%20Ipsos%20Large%20Sample%20Survey%20%23%201%20January%202024%20Topline.pdf

This one is for primary voters. Trump loses a third of GOP voters here.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/19/us/elections/times-siena-poll-likely-electorate-crosstabs.html

RCP doesn't aggregate it either.

If convicted, it's going to be an electoral disaster. Say what you will about the validity of the charges, Trump avoiding conviction on every one of the 91 charges is extremely unlikely.

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The validity of the charges is laughable…

The people pursuing these things are enemies of the republic…something is eventually going to have to come to a head…and the there will be blood in the streets…

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BTW, this is the stuff that turns off the independents even though it makes MAGA giddy.

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Oh boo hoo, seriously? So they'd rather waste a vote instead?

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And I see you don't understand that the entire electorate is not comprised of MAGA.

Independents won't view it as wasting a vote. They'll view it as not voting for someone they really don't like or want to be POTUS. It's really not a difficult concept.

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It's not difficult. Voting for some random independent is going to be a wasted vote. We need to boot out the Marxist, not help them. But you do you.

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No no no! Some people don't get their way so they're totally gonna show YOU what's up!

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Oooh...threaten and then insult.

It's a time proven method to get people to view things your way.

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Texas is not purple stop with that nonsene, GOP dominates this state.

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I don't agree with you much, but this is 100% correct.

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Give me a break. We can't even have a rule that says when republicans win, they can't appoint democrats to committees.

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TexAgs91 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Boo

We deserve the two moronic, dementia-addled liberals then.

Third party it is. This country is filled with abject morons. Trump? Biden? This country is ****ed.

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Splitting the GOP vote is a vote for Biden or whatever commie takes over. You may not like it but it's irrefutable basic math.

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Vote for Trump OR ELSE!

The guilt trip campaign slogan.

My guy sucks balls but the other guy is worse.

Rah Team!

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Stop your whining and show the math to support your position.

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Math?

I'm in Texas. If Trump needs my vote to win, he's REALLY ****ed up the election.

There. Math.

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Ha! Texas is purple

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Texas hasn't voted blue in a statewide or national election since what, 1990? That's not a purple state.

TexAgs91 said:

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Dark_Knight said:

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Dark_Knight said:

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FireAg said:

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TRM said:

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You brought up viability.

Nearly all the polls have asked this in their surveys, but it doesn't get reported in the top line results.
See page 16
https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2024-01/Reuters%20Ipsos%20Large%20Sample%20Survey%20%23%201%20January%202024%20Topline.pdf

This one is for primary voters. Trump loses a third of GOP voters here.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/19/us/elections/times-siena-poll-likely-electorate-crosstabs.html

RCP doesn't aggregate it either.

If convicted, it's going to be an electoral disaster. Say what you will about the validity of the charges, Trump avoiding conviction on every one of the 91 charges is extremely unlikely.

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The validity of the charges is laughable…

The people pursuing these things are enemies of the republic…something is eventually going to have to come to a head…and the there will be blood in the streets…

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BTW, this is the stuff that turns off the independents even though it makes MAGA giddy.

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Oh boo hoo, seriously? So they'd rather waste a vote instead?

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And I see you don't understand that the entire electorate is not comprised of MAGA.

Independents won't view it as wasting a vote. They'll view it as not voting for someone they really don't like or want to be POTUS. It's really not a difficult concept.

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It's not difficult. Voting for some random independent is going to be a wasted vote. We need to boot out the Marxist, not help them. But you do you.

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I learned my lesson in '92. I voted for Ross Perot (independent) because I didn't like Bush Sr. You have 2 right leaning candidates that between them would get probably 60% of the country to vote for them. Instead, the 40% of the country wins with Clinton.

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I voted Perot, too.

Would LOVE to vote for him in this election.

Instead, I get 2 people that are about his age...

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TexAgs91 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Boo

We deserve the two moronic, dementia-addled liberals then.

Third party it is. This country is filled with abject morons. Trump? Biden? This country is ****ed.

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Splitting the GOP vote is a vote for Biden or whatever commie takes over. You may not like it but it's irrefutable basic math.

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Vote for Trump OR ELSE!

The guilt trip campaign slogan.

My guy sucks balls but the other guy is worse.

Rah Team!

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Stop your whining and show the math to support your position.

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Math?

I'm in Texas. If Trump needs my vote to win, he's REALLY ****ed up the election.

There. Math.

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Ha! Texas is purple

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Texas hasn't voted blue in a statewide or national election since what, 1990? That's not a purple state.

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1992, I think. The GOP swept the statewide elections in 1994 and have been rolling ever since.

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TexAgs91 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Boo

We deserve the two moronic, dementia-addled liberals then.

Third party it is. This country is filled with abject morons. Trump? Biden? This country is ****ed.

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Splitting the GOP vote is a vote for Biden or whatever commie takes over. You may not like it but it's irrefutable basic math.

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Vote for Trump OR ELSE!

The guilt trip campaign slogan.

My guy sucks balls but the other guy is worse.

Rah Team!

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Stop your whining and show the math to support your position.

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Math?

I'm in Texas. If Trump needs my vote to win, he's REALLY ****ed up the election.

There. Math.

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Ha! Texas is purple

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You don't know what a purple state looks like then.

When was the last Democrat elected in a state-wide election? How about the vote for POTUS?

How did the RGV pick up REPUBLICAN seats in the last election?

As is typical, the big city centers are blue. But the rest of the state stays solidly red...and hispanics are either staying at around 35/65 GOP or moving to a move even split.

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LOL Dade Phelan is the Speaker of the House. Republicans may have the numbers in Texas, but dems run the state.

And then there's John Cornyn. Maybe you don't know what a red state looks like.

Early polls show Cruz with a 41-40 lead over Allred or Gutierrez. It will be interesting to monitor going forward.

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Early polls show Cruz with a 41-40 lead over Allred or Gutierrez. It will be interesting to monitor going forward.

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Democrats have a golden opportunity to take that seat.

Cruz is not well liked because too many idiots don't like how he talks or "comes off."

Trump dragging down the ballot.

Democrats have basically unlimited $$$ to spend and the GOP is broke thanks to Trump and Ronna. Texas will be their #1 target.

Not really. Same thing happened when Robert O Rourke ran against Cruz. Not liked. Tons of money backing him from the west coast. And he got smacked.

Then again in 22. Abbott was hammered over ERCOT and Uvalde. And Robert got a lot of money backing him and lost even worse.

I don't know - you hardly hear a peep from Cruz. All I know is this state is flooded with illegals, property taxes are high, road construction take eons, toll roads are the norm and public school districts are trash. I guess we're better than most other places but damn the expectations are low.

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I don't know - you hardly hear a peep from Cruz. All I know is this state is flooded with illegals, property taxes are high, road construction take eons, toll roads are the norm and public school districts are trash. I guess we're better than most other places but damn the expectations are low.

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Cruz is mainly selling his new book.

There is a lot of DeSantis hate still residing with MAGA. Many of them will never get over that he dared to challenge Trump. Just go read Free Republic. They hate DeSantis as much now if not even more so and still want him ground to dust.

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Just go read Free Republic.

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Yeah. That place is cray cray. Worse than the libertarian peeps in many ways. Don't get me started.

No thanks.

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It's a sad time when the country rejects someone who could actually effectively govern and turn this country around.

I'll vote for Trump in the general as I did in 2016 and 2020 but this time I won't be contributing any money to his campaign - I'm not paying for his legal fees.

I have no doubt Trump will lose the general by continuing to say and do stupid things that will drive independents and suburban women back to Biden even though they know Biden is incompetent and his policies will hurt them economically.

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This is the HUGE problem looming not just for Trump, but for the GOP. MAGA may donate, but Not Trump won't. Which means a small pool of money for the general...for the down ballot candidates included.

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Your absolutely on point.

Unfortunately it's a problem Trump himself has created by putting his personal interests above the country's interest.

Trump is all about himself and to hell with the party, the downstream candidates and the country.

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Is he? SCOTUS picks on line 2 for you…

If he is all about himself and not the country, why didn't he just pick his own SCOTUS nominees and throw his "what's best for conservative America" list out the window?

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Trump picked the candidates he was told to pick and it was absolutely in his interest to do so. McConnell had already done the hard work of clearing the road with the filibuster gone. It's not like Trump has deep seated Constitutional thoughts on legal issues.

I'll give him credit for doing that but it would have been foolish for him not to.

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Agree would have been foolish, but for some folks, they'd argue "that's never stopped him from being foolish before!"

He made great picks from a great list that benefited states' rights in America…so he did something that benefitted America, and God bless him for it…

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Correct, but you had responded that to a question about him doing something for himself and not the country. Appointing those Justices was definitely beneficial to himself. Might even keep him out of jail in the end.

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Name one time where nominating a SCOTUS justice was NOT beneficial to the man doing it?

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You are the one who brought up SC Justices, he just said anything that Trump had done that was not beneficial for him but was for the country. Trump has strengths but being selfless isn't really one of them. That also doesn't make him terribly unique among politicians.

This group pulling the Biden puppet strings are actually going to pull this off.

Crazy.

Nominating those three justices was great for the country I want…frankly the only firewall we have right now that gives our republic the slimmest of chances to survive…

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This group pulling the Biden puppet strings are actually going to pull this off.

Crazy.

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Someone needs to keep them fat and fed.

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TexAgs91 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Boo

We deserve the two moronic, dementia-addled liberals then.

Third party it is. This country is filled with abject morons. Trump? Biden? This country is ****ed.

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Splitting the GOP vote is a vote for Biden or whatever commie takes over. You may not like it but it's irrefutable basic math.

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Vote for Trump OR ELSE!

The guilt trip campaign slogan.

My guy sucks balls but the other guy is worse.

Rah Team!

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Stop your whining and show the math to support your position.

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Math?

I'm in Texas. If Trump needs my vote to win, he's REALLY ****ed up the election.

There. Math.

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Ha! Texas is purple

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Texas hasn't voted blue in a statewide or national election since what, 1990? That's not a purple state.

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1992, I think. The GOP swept the statewide elections in 1994 and have been rolling ever since.

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'90 every office went Blue but Ag Commissioner where Perry won a tight race as a new Republican. '94 W Bush won and they picked up some other offices. '98 was a Clean GOP Sweep and they haven't lost a Statewide office since.

We hope.

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Nominating those three justices was great for the country I want…frankly the only firewall we have right now that gives our republic the slimmest of chances to survive…

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You want a justice that just imagines trans people as being part of the Civil Rights Act beneficiaries?

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We hope.

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We are in desperate times…can't deny that…