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Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.

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how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?

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Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?

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Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?

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No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.

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Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dude

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I know Trumpers are new to this whole politics thing, but you do understand those are two different populations right?

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lol I saw my candidate win a presidential election in 2016 and you? I also know the coveted swing vote is not really that big and is generally overstated, most people know who they are voting when they walk in the booth.

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And all of us saw your candidate lose to a potato in 2020.

Congrats???

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You say he lost, many upon many folks still believe it was stolen…

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Ok?

They're wrong.

But, I get that they cannot believe that the man they have such an emotional attachment to could possible lose. Hell, they've already started the excuses just in case he loses yet again.

They love him so they don't understand that lots of people HATE him.

I'm not in the hate group, though. I'm in the sick and tired of the middle school antics group from man who is almost as old as my father.

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FireAg said:

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He appointed justices to overturn Roe and he started the wall…

All while being victimized by fabricated criminal prosecutions…

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Joes said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Boo

We deserve the two moronic, dementia-addled liberals then.

Third party it is. This country is filled with abject morons. Trump? Biden? This country is ****ed.

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Third party pretty much assures four more years of this crap you good with that?

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Wrong.

Nominating two old dementia-riddled corpses pretty much assures four more years of this crap.

Stop telling me that I have to vote for the less crappier of two crappy candidates. Stop telling me that my only option is to vote aganist the other party.

Give me a good candidate to vote for.

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Agreed. I hate this blackmail BS. "You have to vote Trump now or else it means you love Biden and want communism!" Most of us see it that nominating Trump at all is what assures the Dems the win.

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Well polling for now disagrees with you…

But you don't have to vote Trump…it's a free country…you do you…

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FireAg said:

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Ag with kids said:

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FireAg said:

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Ag with kids said:

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911sAg said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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911sAg said:

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BenFiasco14 said:

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Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.

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how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?

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Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?

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Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?

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No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.

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Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dude

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I know Trumpers are new to this whole politics thing, but you do understand those are two different populations right?

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lol I saw my candidate win a presidential election in 2016 and you? I also know the coveted swing vote is not really that big and is generally overstated, most people know who they are voting when they walk in the booth.

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And all of us saw your candidate lose to a potato in 2020.

Congrats???

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You say he lost, many upon many folks still believe it was stolen…

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Ok?

They're wrong.

But, I get that they cannot believe that the man they have such an emotional attachment to could possible lose. Hell, they've already started the excuses just in case he loses yet again.

They love him so they don't understand that lots of people HATE him.

I'm not in the hate group, though. I'm in the sick and tired of the middle school antics group from man who is almost as old as my father.

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You're welcome to your opinion…

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Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.

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how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?

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Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?

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Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?

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No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.

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Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dude

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I know Trumpers are new to this whole politics thing, but you do understand those are two different populations right?

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lol I saw my candidate win a presidential election in 2016 and you? I also know the coveted swing vote is not really that big and is generally overstated, most people know who they are voting when they walk in the booth.

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And all of us saw your candidate lose to a potato in 2020.

Congrats???

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You say he lost, many upon many folks still believe it was stolen…

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Ok?

They're wrong.

But, I get that they cannot believe that the man they have such an emotional attachment to could possible lose. Hell, they've already started the excuses just in case he loses yet again.

They love him so they don't understand that lots of people HATE him.

I'm not in the hate group, though. I'm in the sick and tired of the middle school antics group from man who is almost as old as my father.

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You're in the full of **** group, got it.

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I live in Texas. I could vote for Gumby and it wouldn't matter.

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Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.

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how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?

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Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?

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Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?

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No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.

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Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dude

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I know Trumpers are new to this whole politics thing, but you do understand those are two different populations right?

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lol I saw my candidate win a presidential election in 2016 and you? I also know the coveted swing vote is not really that big and is generally overstated, most people know who they are voting when they walk in the booth.

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And all of us saw your candidate lose to a potato in 2020.

Congrats???

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You say he lost, many upon many folks still believe it was stolen…

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Ok?

They're wrong.

But, I get that they cannot believe that the man they have such an emotional attachment to could possible lose. Hell, they've already started the excuses just in case he loses yet again.

They love him so they don't understand that lots of people HATE him.

I'm not in the hate group, though. I'm in the sick and tired of the middle school antics group from man who is almost as old as my father.

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You're in the full of **** group, got it.

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Yes. He's full of **** and I'm tired of it.

Even though I voted for him twice.

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wonder how desatnis supporters think about that their boy endorsed Trump, is he a dumb MAGA now too?

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The only thing that's dumb is this comment.

It is the type of comment made by someone who, some how finds some sort of joy, not over winning, but the opponent losing!

I'm of the opinion, the US lost today, the best possible Republican candidate (whom Trump should of passed the baton to from the very beginning) just stepped out.

I am not a MAGA, Nor am I against MAGA, it is Trump that created this divide. He acted like a hormonal teenage in his juvenile attacks and name calling against any one whom he may see as threat.

If Trump was truly for the best interest of the US he would know that he is extremely damaged goods and for the 'good of the country' would of supported Desantis and we would have a walk over win in 2024.

Why, because the MAGA voter is going to do whatever Trump tells them to do!

We went from having a slam dunk victory to having a 'fight for our lives' type of election between two boomer candidates one who is lightning rod and divisive, the other near vegetable proxy (he is just Obama's and Soros's and the WEF's stooge) who should both be sitting on the sidelines and if Trump really had the best interest of the nation at heart (and not his own wounded pride) he would of promoted Desantis from the start.

Having said that, I am an adult, who has the best interest of the country at heart. Therefore, I am not going to have a reactionary emotional reaction here, and go throw a childish tantrum in the corner. Furthermore, there should be no running around and 'spiking the football' in front of anyone's face here. This is not some silly stupid game we are playing here for smack talk privileges!

I will vote for Trump, (if there is one) why because the alternative is a speeded up death knell of this country that's why. This is not a time to get offended and make or not make a vote on emotional principle!

Now I believe that Trump did win the last election and that it was stolen, I understand all this 'unjust' lawfare and Trump just cannot walk away - (I believe it very easily could be part of a 'psyop' from the establishment to get Trump sympathy votes and to energize the MAGA movement and discount other potentially good truly conservative options , LIKE DESANTIS.) , Still if he was really for the best interest of MAGA, he would not have attack Desantis with such juvenile attacks because now there will be some Desantis supporters who will not vote for Trump because of it, And he is going to need every vote he can get, if not more! LOL

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FireAg said:

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Joes said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Boo

We deserve the two moronic, dementia-addled liberals then.

Third party it is. This country is filled with abject morons. Trump? Biden? This country is ****ed.

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Third party pretty much assures four more years of this crap you good with that?

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Wrong.

Nominating two old dementia-riddled corpses pretty much assures four more years of this crap.

Stop telling me that I have to vote for the less crappier of two crappy candidates. Stop telling me that my only option is to vote aganist the other party.

Give me a good candidate to vote for.

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Agreed. I hate this blackmail BS. "You have to vote Trump now or else it means you love Biden and want communism!" Most of us see it that nominating Trump at all is what assures the Dems the win.

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Well polling for now disagrees with you…

But you don't have to vote Trump…it's a free country…you do you…

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Gigem314 said:

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I hope DeSantis tries again in 2028. He's still my top pick.

But the stakes are too high to be petty…I'll be voting Trump to get Biden out.

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Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.

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how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?

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Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?

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Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?

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Just inches away from the victory two

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It's hilarious seeing such butthurt from some posters

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There's about a dozen on here that had rather see Biden again than vote for trump. It's one post after another. Not representative.

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Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.

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how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?

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Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?

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Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?

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No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.

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Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dude

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TAMUallen said:

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TAMUallen said:

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Ag with kids said:

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FireAg said:

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Ag with kids said:

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911sAg said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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911sAg said:

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BenFiasco14 said:

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911sAg said:

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BenFiasco14 said:

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Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.

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how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?

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Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?

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Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?

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No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.

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Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dude

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I know Trumpers are new to this whole politics thing, but you do understand those are two different populations right?

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lol I saw my candidate win a presidential election in 2016 and you? I also know the coveted swing vote is not really that big and is generally overstated, most people know who they are voting when they walk in the booth.

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And all of us saw your candidate lose to a potato in 2020.

Congrats???

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You say he lost, many upon many folks still believe it was stolen…

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Ok?

They're wrong.

But, I get that they cannot believe that the man they have such an emotional attachment to could possible lose. Hell, they've already started the excuses just in case he loses yet again.

They love him so they don't understand that lots of people HATE him.

I'm not in the hate group, though. I'm in the sick and tired of the middle school antics group from man who is almost as old as my father.

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You're in the full of **** group, got it.

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Yes. He's full of **** and I'm tired of it.

Even though I voted for him twice.

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You don't hate him but dedicate your posting to detest him in any way possible. That totally checks out.

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I "detest" him?

No. I'm ****ing tired of a geriatric acting like a 12 year old who is now only concerned with getting elected to build back his butthurt ego from 2020.

And I'm pretty sure that now the chances of getting rid of Biden have shrunk. Because I REALLY want to get rid of Biden.

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Foreverconservative said:

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Dept of Education should be dissolved and leave it up to the states to handle their business. DoE is nothing but a money pit with no function other to allow the teachers union become a lobbyist.

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911sAg said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Boo

We deserve the two moronic, dementia-addled liberals then.

Third party it is. This country is filled with abject morons. Trump? Biden? This country is ****ed.

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Third party pretty much assures four more years of this crap you good with that?

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aggie93 said:

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Foreverconservative said:

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Dept of Education should be dissolved and leave it up to the states to handle their business. DoE is nothing but a money pit with no function other to allow the teachers union become a lobbyist.

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DeSantis might have done that, zero chance with Trump. That's what we chose.

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annie88 said:

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I think DeSantis should try again in 2028.

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shiftyandquick said:

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I'm sitting here laughing at the people talking about how much GOP voters love DeSantis when he is polling 5% in a 3-person field in South Carolina. He really captured the hearts and minds of conservatives! Don't worry, he's going to make Florida great again. Disney Corp beware!

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Foreverconservative said:

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Dept of Education should be dissolved and leave it up to the states to handle their business. DoE is nothing but a money pit with no function other to allow the teachers union become a lobbyist.

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shiftyandquick said:

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I'm sitting here laughing at the people talking about how much GOP voters love DeSantis when he is polling 5% in a 3-person field in South Carolina. He really captured the hearts and minds of conservatives! Don't worry, he's going to make Florida great again. Disney Corp beware!

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FireAg said:

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SA68AG said:

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It's a sad time when the country rejects someone who could actually effectively govern and turn this country around.

I'll vote for Trump in the general as I did in 2016 and 2020 but this time I won't be contributing any money to his campaign - I'm not paying for his legal fees.

I have no doubt Trump will lose the general by continuing to say and do stupid things that will drive independents and suburban women back to Biden even though they know Biden is incompetent and his policies will hurt them economically.

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This is the HUGE problem looming not just for Trump, but for the GOP. MAGA may donate, but Not Trump won't. Which means a small pool of money for the general...for the down ballot candidates included.

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Your absolutely on point.

Unfortunately it's a problem Trump himself has created by putting his personal interests above the country's interest.

Trump is all about himself and to hell with the party, the downstream candidates and the country.

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Is he? SCOTUS picks on line 2 for you…

If he is all about himself and not the country, why didn't he just pick his own SCOTUS nominees and throw his "what's best for conservative America" list out the window?

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aggie93 said:

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FireAg said:

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SA68AG said:

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It's a sad time when the country rejects someone who could actually effectively govern and turn this country around.

I'll vote for Trump in the general as I did in 2016 and 2020 but this time I won't be contributing any money to his campaign - I'm not paying for his legal fees.

I have no doubt Trump will lose the general by continuing to say and do stupid things that will drive independents and suburban women back to Biden even though they know Biden is incompetent and his policies will hurt them economically.

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This is the HUGE problem looming not just for Trump, but for the GOP. MAGA may donate, but Not Trump won't. Which means a small pool of money for the general...for the down ballot candidates included.

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Your absolutely on point.

Unfortunately it's a problem Trump himself has created by putting his personal interests above the country's interest.

Trump is all about himself and to hell with the party, the downstream candidates and the country.

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Is he? SCOTUS picks on line 2 for you…

If he is all about himself and not the country, why didn't he just pick his own SCOTUS nominees and throw his "what's best for conservative America" list out the window?

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Trump picked the candidates he was told to pick and it was absolutely in his interest to do so. McConnell had already done the hard work of clearing the road with the filibuster gone. It's not like Trump has deep seated Constitutional thoughts on legal issues.

I'll give him credit for doing that but it would have been foolish for him not to.

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It doesn't work like that. DeSantis would be the candidate most likely to unify all sections of the GOP because he is the most acceptable to all parts of the GOP. Very, very few people in the GOP hate him and would never vote for him unlike Trump or Haley. He also would absolutely crossover with Suburban voters and Catholics which end up deciding General Elections because he is one.

He couldn't win because the Establishment and Con Media opposed him as they liked their candidates better and ignored the one guy that was likely to bring everyone together.

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FireAg said:

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aggie93 said:

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FireAg said:

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SA68AG said:

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SA68AG said:

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It's a sad time when the country rejects someone who could actually effectively govern and turn this country around.

I'll vote for Trump in the general as I did in 2016 and 2020 but this time I won't be contributing any money to his campaign - I'm not paying for his legal fees.

I have no doubt Trump will lose the general by continuing to say and do stupid things that will drive independents and suburban women back to Biden even though they know Biden is incompetent and his policies will hurt them economically.

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This is the HUGE problem looming not just for Trump, but for the GOP. MAGA may donate, but Not Trump won't. Which means a small pool of money for the general...for the down ballot candidates included.

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Your absolutely on point.

Unfortunately it's a problem Trump himself has created by putting his personal interests above the country's interest.

Trump is all about himself and to hell with the party, the downstream candidates and the country.

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Is he? SCOTUS picks on line 2 for you…

If he is all about himself and not the country, why didn't he just pick his own SCOTUS nominees and throw his "what's best for conservative America" list out the window?

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Trump picked the candidates he was told to pick and it was absolutely in his interest to do so. McConnell had already done the hard work of clearing the road with the filibuster gone. It's not like Trump has deep seated Constitutional thoughts on legal issues.

I'll give him credit for doing that but it would have been foolish for him not to.

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Agree would have been foolish, but for some folks, they'd argue "that's never stopped him from being foolish before!"

He made great picks from a great list that benefited states' rights in America…so he did something that benefitted America, and God bless him for it…

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