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MUST WATCH🚨 10 minutes of Democrats denying election results.

Democrats objected to the certification of presidential elections in 2000, 2004, and 2016.

Will Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, and Jack Smith arrest these Democrats who made false statements and denied these elections?… pic.twitter.com/fgTz18v5re

— KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) August 2, 2023

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[MUST WATCH* 10 minutes of Democrats denying election results.]

All this shows is that in prior elections, the losing party knew how to question and object to election results. They also knew when to give up after legal avenues had been exhausted, something the Donald seems to be unaware is even a possibility.

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This guy still thinks it's a partisan issue.

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And for anyone who does not know who Garland Favorito is, he's been doing election integrity work in Georgia for years. Not a Trumper. Those press releases are relevant to the charges specific to what Trump said about the results in Georgia. Court cases over 2020 are still pending there.

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Since the DOJ has turned itself into a joke, can Trump legally have his 4 or 5 Attorney co-conspirators represent him in this case ?

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And then you hide behind that disinterest to claim that "well, then the evidence must not be there".

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And for anyone who does not know who Garland Favorito is, he's been doing election integrity work in Georgia for years. Not a Trumper. Those press releases are relevant to the charges specific to what Trump said about the results in Georgia. Court cases over 2020 are still pending there.

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While Favorito has been around before Trump started running for office, Favorito is certainly "a Trumper" who has spoken on stage at multiple Trump campaign rallies.

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And that is relevant how? Are you just going to dismiss every thing Favorito has said and done for years prior to Trump even coming down the escalator in 2015? Favorito's motives for working towards election integrity have nothing to do with Trump, per se. He wants clean transparent elections. The fact that Trump happened to be the one affected in 2020, is a sidenote.

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Watermelon Man said:

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aggiehawg said:

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MUST WATCH🚨 10 minutes of Democrats denying election results.

Democrats objected to the certification of presidential elections in 2000, 2004, and 2016.

Will Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, and Jack Smith arrest these Democrats who made false statements and denied these elections?… pic.twitter.com/fgTz18v5re

— KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) August 2, 2023

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[MUST WATCH* 10 minutes of Democrats denying election results.]

All this shows is that in prior elections, the losing party knew how to question and object to election results. They also knew when to give up after legal avenues had been exhausted, something the Donald seems to be unaware is even a possibility.

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So Donald Trump is combative, vindictive, short-tempered, arrogant, likes to sue, and holds grudges. None of those things are crimes.

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In April 2022, the New York Times delved into the priorities of Attorney General Merrick Garland and the Biden administration, the latter of which had been hoping Garland would be more aggressive and take more decisive action to target Trump for January 6. According to the Times' report, Biden had "confided to his inner circle that he believed former President Donald J. Trump was a threat to democracy and should be prosecuted, according to two people familiar with his comments."

"And while the president has never communicated his frustrations directly to Mr. Garland, he has said privately that he wanted Mr. Garland to act less like a ponderous judge and more like a prosecutor who is willing to take decisive action over the events of Jan. 6," according to the report. At the time, Garland said they would "do the right thing" and "follow the facts and the law wherever they may lead."

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In 2022, the New York Times reported Biden was frustrated his AG Merrick Garland hadn't prosecuted his chief political rival Donald Trump yet for J6 and believed it had to happen. Today, he got what he asked his DOJ for via the New York Times. https://t.co/yzaGCxvCqe

— Mollie (@MZHemingway) August 1, 2023

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And for anyone who does not know who Garland Favorito is, he's been doing election integrity work in Georgia for years. Not a Trumper. Those press releases are relevant to the charges specific to what Trump said about the results in Georgia. Court cases over 2020 are still pending there.

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While Favorito has been around before Trump started running for office, Favorito is certainly "a Trumper" who has spoken on stage at multiple Trump campaign rallies.

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And that is relevant how? Are you just going to dismiss every thing Favorito has said and done for years prior to Trump even coming down the escalator in 2015? Favorito's motives for working towards election integrity have nothing to do with Trump, per se. He wants clean transparent elections. The fact that Trump happened to be the one affected in 2020, is a sidenote.

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Do you, or anyone else, have an explanation for the multiple boxes of apparently unfolded ballots that were identical with Biden as the only candidate voted for with nearly perfect bubbling of his name? (_Interestingly, can't seem to find anything on that any more by doing a Google search)

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And didn't General Flynn plead guilty ?

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Flynn got railroaded into a guilty plea.

The FBI withheld evidence that would have given Flynn a valid reason to believe he would be exonerated from the charges.

Then, after failing to provide the evidence to Flynn, they threatened his son with prosecution.

https://www.cato.org/blog/two-things-nearly-everyone-gets-wrong-about-michael-flynn-case

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It has been reported, credibly in my judgment, that the stalemate was brought to a head when the SCO leaked to certain reporters that a guilty plea from Flynn would ensure that Flynn's son, who was under investigation as Flynn senior's business partner (and also happened to be the father of Flynn senior's fourmonthold grandchild) would not be prosecuted. This is the sort of despicable tactic one associates with tyrants and dictators; but to our infinite discredit, it appears to have become a routine feature of American prosecutions as well.

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This was a power play to get the father to plead guilty.

AG Barr realized the game being played here and dropped the charges against Flynn, only to have Democrat Judge Sullivan step in and attempt to enforce the ill-gotten guilty plea. Issue was only settled by Trump's pardon of Flynn.

After years of Piss Tape Prophets, Steele Dossiers, and FISA Court fraud, how on earth can you trust anything that comes out of the Department of Justice or the FBI when it comes to Trump?

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Well, yes, he is those things.

In addition, it appears that he has committed several crimes. We won't know for sure until the trials are concluded

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Favorito is a fringe, conspiracy theorist, who occasionally gets attention from other fringe, conspiracy theorists and whose work has never accomplished anything. He's a product of the internet age when anyone can start a website. Before moving to election integrity, he wrote an unsuccessful book pushing 9/11 conspiracy theories.

As I acknowledged, he's been yelling at clouds since before Trump but he's absolutely attached himself at the hip to the Trump campaign.

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If a Democratic president conspired to retain the presidency against the results of the election, you guys that are giving a complete pass to Trump would be calling for the Democrat's head.

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Watermelon Man said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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aggiehawg said:

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MUST WATCH🚨 10 minutes of Democrats denying election results.

Democrats objected to the certification of presidential elections in 2000, 2004, and 2016.

Will Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, and Jack Smith arrest these Democrats who made false statements and denied these elections?… pic.twitter.com/fgTz18v5re

— KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) August 2, 2023

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[MUST WATCH* 10 minutes of Democrats denying election results.]

All this shows is that in prior elections, the losing party knew how to question and object to election results. They also knew when to give up after legal avenues had been exhausted, something the Donald seems to be unaware is even a possibility.

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So Donald Trump is combative, vindictive, short-tempered, arrogant, likes to sue, and holds grudges. None of those things are crimes.

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Well, yes, he is those things.

In addition, it appears that he has committed several crimes. We won't know for sure until the trials are concluded (or, he takes a plea, but I don't see a combative, vindictive, short-tempered, arrogant orangeman who likes to sue and hold grudges doing that. If he was going to do that, he could have just conceded like all of those Democrats did in the video clip.)

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The poster above is correct. If a Democratic president conspired to retain the presidency against the results of the election, you guys that are giving a complete pass to Trump would be calling for the Democrat's head.

Luckily Trump is not very smart and not very skilled and surrounds himself with corrupt idiots who are also not skilled and smart, so he was unable to pull it off.

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The poster above is correct. If a Democratic president conspired to retain the presidency against the results of the election, you guys that are giving a complete pass to Trump would be calling for the Democrat's head.

Luckily Trump is not very smart and not very skilled and surrounds himself with corrupt idiots who are also not skilled and smart, so he was unable to pull it off.

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Favorito is a fringe, conspiracy theorist, who occasionally gets attention from other fringe, conspiracy theorists and whose work has never accomplished anything. He's a product of the internet age when anyone can start a website. Before moving to election integrity, he wrote an unsuccessful book pushing 9/11 conspiracy theories.

As I acknowledged, he's been yelling at clouds since before Trump but he's absolutely attached himself at the hip to the Trump campaign.

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The guy that took election cases to the SCOTUS and won his case is a fringe conspiracy theorist? Who won his case on standing in the Georgia state supreme court too?

Now ifFavorito was out there alone making assertions, you might have a point albeit a small one but the huge number of witnesses, experts, etc. he produces in court debunk that.

It was one of his cases before Judge Amero's court wherein issues with the absentee ballots in Fulton County presented enough evidence to convince him to orally order a higher resolution scan of them, only to inexplicably dismiss the case a few weeks later. A decision that was appealed and has now been reinstated.

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Harvard Law Professor Emeritus Alan Dershowitz predicted Tuesday on Fox News Channel's "Hannity" that the Supreme Court would overrule a conviction of former President Donald Trump for his alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 election.

Discussing the indictment, Dershowitz said, "They claim that Donald Trump actually believed that he lost the election. That everything he did was fraudulent. That he conspired with un named lawyers mostly."

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He continued, "I read the indictment carefully. There is no smoking gun. There is no one who is credibly prepared to testify that Donald Trump said to him, I know personally, I lost the election. There is a lot of evidence a lot people told me he lost the election but you know Donald Trump and you ,know he will make up his own mind. And they'll have a very hard time proving it. District of Columbia, so 90 percent of the jury pool voted against him. So, they may actually get a conviction from a D.C. jury but will survive appellate review and review in the Supreme Court? I don not think so."

Dershowitz added, "I think he may lose in the states court of appeals for the D.C. Circuit, but I think he will probably win appeals the United States Supreme Court if they grant review and they should grant review."

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Favorito is a fringe, conspiracy theorist, who occasionally gets attention from other fringe, conspiracy theorists and whose work has never accomplished anything. He's a product of the internet age when anyone can start a website. Before moving to election integrity, he wrote an unsuccessful book pushing 9/11 conspiracy theories.

As I acknowledged, he's been yelling at clouds since before Trump but he's absolutely attached himself at the hip to the Trump campaign.

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The guy that took election cases to the SCOTUS and won his case is a fringe conspiracy theorist? Who won his case on standing in the Georgia state supreme court too?

Now ifFavorito was out there alone making assertions, you might have a point albeit a small one but the huge number of witnesses, experts, etc. he produces in court debunk that.

It was one of his cases before Judge Amero's court wherein issues with the absentee ballots in Fulton County presented enough evidence to convince him to orally order a higher resolution scan of them, only to inexplicably dismiss the case a few weeks later. A decision that was appealed and has now been reinstated.

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Favorito is a fringe, conspiracy theorist, who occasionally gets attention from other fringe, conspiracy theorists and whose work has never accomplished anything. He's a product of the internet age when anyone can start a website. Before moving to election integrity, he wrote an unsuccessful book pushing 9/11 conspiracy theories.

As I acknowledged, he's been yelling at clouds since before Trump but he's absolutely attached himself at the hip to the Trump campaign.

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The guy that took election cases to the SCOTUS and won his case is a fringe conspiracy theorist? Who won his case on standing in the Georgia state supreme court too?

Now ifFavorito was out there alone making assertions, you might have a point albeit a small one but the huge number of witnesses, experts, etc. he produces in court debunk that.

It was one of his cases before Judge Amero's court wherein issues with the absentee ballots in Fulton County presented enough evidence to convince him to orally order a higher resolution scan of them, only to inexplicably dismiss the case a few weeks later. A decision that was appealed and has now been reinstated.

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Aggiehawg just steam rolled over poor txaggie2011, then put it in reverse to make a point. Facts 1 - 0 feelings 0.

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Favorito is a fringe, conspiracy theorist, who occasionally gets attention from other fringe, conspiracy theorists and whose work has never accomplished anything.

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Favorito is a fringe, conspiracy theorist, who occasionally gets attention from other fringe, conspiracy theorists and whose work has never accomplished anything. He's a product of the internet age when anyone can start a website. Before moving to election integrity, he wrote an unsuccessful book pushing 9/11 conspiracy theories.

As I acknowledged, he's been yelling at clouds since before Trump but he's absolutely attached himself at the hip to the Trump campaign.

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The guy that took election cases to the SCOTUS and won his case is a fringe conspiracy theorist? Who won his case on standing in the Georgia state supreme court too?

Now ifFavorito was out there alone making assertions, you might have a point albeit a small one but the huge number of witnesses, experts, etc. he produces in court debunk that.

It was one of his cases before Judge Amero's court wherein issues with the absentee ballots in Fulton County presented enough evidence to convince him to orally order a higher resolution scan of them, only to inexplicably dismiss the case a few weeks later. A decision that was appealed and has now been reinstated.

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Aggiehawg just steam rolled over poor txaggie2011, then put it in reverse to make a point. Facts 1 - 0 feelings 0.

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Aggiehawg is better at making stuff up than I am. I will admit as much and live to see another day.

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It was one of his cases before Judge Amero's court wherein issues with the absentee ballots in Fulton County presented enough evidence to convince him to orally order a higher resolution scan of them, only to inexplicably dismiss the case a few weeks later. A decision that was appealed and has now been reinstated.

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The Green Dragon said:

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All the people crying that a former president has never been indicted are likewise saying to prosecute a sitting president.

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It was one of his cases before Judge Amero's court wherein issues with the absentee ballots in Fulton County presented enough evidence to convince him to orally order a higher resolution scan of them, only to inexplicably dismiss the case a few weeks later. A decision that was appealed and has now been reinstated.

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Judge Amero essentially said "I'm throwing your case out but Georgia law says ballots are public record so sure, I'll order them to be scanned and available to the public."

I'm sure you tell great stories about fishing trips.

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