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Daily reminder for Leftist and CM living in denial and refusing to see basic patterns:

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June 7: FBI releases documents to Congress alleging the Bidens took a $10M bribe from Burisma.
June 8: Jack Smith indicts Trump in Mar-a-Lago docs case.

July 26: Hunter Biden goes to court and rejects sweetheart plea deal after it was revealed DOJ tried to give him blanket immunity from future prosecutions.
July 27: Jack Smith adds more charges for Trump in the Mar-a-lago case.

July 31: Hunter Biden's former business partner testifies to Congress that Joe Biden was on over 20 calls with his son's business partners and that Burisma execs pressured them to fire the prosecutor
August 1: Jack Smith indicts Trump again for January 6

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You left off DeSantis Disciples. They seem just as giddy about this news as our concerned moderates. They just see this as a way for their boy to get yhe nod. Sad.

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Daily reminder for Leftist and CM living in denial and refusing to see basic patterns:

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June 7: FBI releases documents to Congress alleging the Bidens took a $10M bribe from Burisma.
June 8: Jack Smith indicts Trump in Mar-a-Lago docs case.

July 26: Hunter Biden goes to court and rejects sweetheart plea deal after it was revealed DOJ tried to give him blanket immunity from future prosecutions.
July 27: Jack Smith adds more charges for Trump in the Mar-a-lago case.

July 31: Hunter Biden's former business partner testifies to Congress that Joe Biden was on over 20 calls with his son's business partners and that Burisma execs pressured them to fire the prosecutor
August 1: Jack Smith indicts Trump again for January 6

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You left off DeSantis Disciples. They seem just as giddy about this news as our concerned moderates. They just see this as a way for their boy to get yhe nod. Sad.

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Being proven right about an oncoming disaster and being happy about being proven right about an oncoming disaster are not the same thing.

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They seem just as giddy about this news as our concerned moderates. They just see this as a way for their boy to get yhe nod. Sad.

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very fake news.

the only desantis "supporters" happy about this are posters that aren't going to vote republican anyway. they will eventually find a reason to vote biden or whatever democrat is nominated

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Daily reminder for Leftist and CM living in denial and refusing to see basic patterns:

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June 7: FBI releases documents to Congress alleging the Bidens took a $10M bribe from Burisma.
June 8: Jack Smith indicts Trump in Mar-a-Lago docs case.

July 26: Hunter Biden goes to court and rejects sweetheart plea deal after it was revealed DOJ tried to give him blanket immunity from future prosecutions.
July 27: Jack Smith adds more charges for Trump in the Mar-a-lago case.

July 31: Hunter Biden's former business partner testifies to Congress that Joe Biden was on over 20 calls with his son's business partners and that Burisma execs pressured them to fire the prosecutor
August 1: Jack Smith indicts Trump again for January 6

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You left off DeSantis Disciples. They seem just as giddy about this news as our concerned moderates. They just see this as a way for their boy to get yhe nod. Sad.

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Being proven right about an oncoming disaster and being happy about being proven right about an oncoming disaster are not the same thing.

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Proven right that DC is a swamp and is attacking every fabric of our constitutional republic. Um everyone already knew that. Don't know why you need this sham indictment to see that.

Trump staging a rally on Jan 6 when the vote was going to be certified, knowing that the most radical elements of his base, e.g. Proud Boys, etc.. would show up, telling them to "fight like hell," telling them to march to the Capitol, etc... was reckless at best. That is not criminal.

But if there is evidence of admission that he knew he lost the election, evidence of intent to obstruct the certification, coupled with intent to set up fake electors in the swing states that is another matter.

Take off your orange colored glasses. Now imagine it was Hillary or Biden

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They seem just as giddy about this news as our concerned moderates. They just see this as a way for their boy to get yhe nod. Sad.

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very fake news.

the only desantis "supporters" happy about this are posters that aren't going to vote republican anyway. they will eventually find a reason to vote biden or whatever democrat is nominated

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That is actually my point. There are several of them. Especially ones who spam post between 2-3am in the morning...

Maroon Dawn said:

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Daily reminder for Leftist and CM living in denial and refusing to see basic patterns:

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June 7: FBI releases documents to Congress alleging the Bidens took a $10M bribe from Burisma.

June 8: Jack Smith indicts Trump in Mar-a-Lago docs case.

July 26: Hunter Biden goes to court and rejects sweetheart plea deal after it was revealed DOJ tried to give him blanket immunity from future prosecutions.

July 27: Jack Smith adds more charges for Trump in the Mar-a-lago case.

July 31: Hunter Biden's former business partner testifies to Congress that Joe Biden was on over 20 calls with his son's business partners and that Burisma execs pressured them to fire the prosecutor

August 1: Jack Smith indicts Trump again for January 6

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They'll believe all three are coincidences and Jack Smith is an honorable conservative just doing his job. While also believing they had no idea how senile poor Joe was when they voted for him in 2020, but their prayer group prays for him. They had no idea the democrats would be so partisan and divisive, it's so perplexing.

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Still don't think TDS is real? I'm sure the DeSantites are tickled ****less.

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Don't make this about Trump vs. Desantis.

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I didn't.

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Yes you did. You claimed, using an infantile nickname to do so, that DeSantis supporters are supporting the indictments.

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Good, but based on your typical rhetoric in regards to Trump you have to admit that TDS runs deep for DeSantis supporters. DeSantites is a legitimate word to use in describing you and your brethren. Too bad you can't say the same. You typically use slang descriptions for Trump supporters, and that's fact. Stop being a hypocrite.

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Be careful...if you hurt his feelings, he will whine to Staff and get you banned!

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Trump staging a rally on Jan 6 when the vote was going to be certified, knowing that the most radical elements of his base, e.g. Proud Boys, etc.. would show up, telling them to "fight like hell," telling them to march to the Capitol, etc... was reckless at best. That is not criminal.

But if there is evidence of admission that he knew he lost the election, evidence of intent to obstruct the certification, coupled with intent to set up fake electors in the swing states that is another matter.

Take off your orange colored glasses. Now imagine it was Hillary or Biden

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But the FBI and Metro policies infiltration and role in encouraging still peaceful citizens to break the law is A-Ok because they were doing the work of the democrats. We already know you have terrible judgement you don't need to keep posting it.

It's interesting that 4 or 5 of the Co-Conspirators are licensed Attorneys that are " Officers Of The Court " Is it illegal if you follow the advice of your Attorney when the attorney tells you it is legal ? I would think this will be a major point in Trump's defense !

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People who see Trump for the person he really is are following and promoting a political process.

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Justice is supposed to be blind. Totalitarians cannot have that.

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It's interesting that 4 or 5 of the Co-Conspirators are licensed Attorneys that are " Officers Of The Court " Is it illegal if you follow the advice of your Attorney when the attorney tells you it is legal ? I would think this will be a major point in Trump's defense !

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Rudy's response video at LINK He mad!

MUST WATCH🚨 10 minutes of Democrats denying election results.

Democrats objected to the certification of presidential elections in 2000, 2004, and 2016.

Will Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, and Jack Smith arrest these Democrats who made false statements and denied these elections?… pic.twitter.com/fgTz18v5re

— KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) August 2, 2023

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It's interesting that 4 or 5 of the Co-Conspirators are licensed Attorneys that are " Officers Of The Court " Is it illegal if you follow the advice of your Attorney when the attorney tells you it is legal ? I would think this will be a major point in Trump's defense !

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yes, trump can say he was acting on advice of legal counsel. the downside is that opens up all of his communications with any of those lawyers to no longer being privileged. while some communications are already ruled not-privileged by crime-fraud exception, this would make all of the related communications not privileged.

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Trump staging a rally on Jan 6 when the vote was going to be certified, knowing that the most radical elements of his base, e.g. Proud Boys, etc.. would show up, telling them to "fight like hell," telling them to march to the Capitol, etc... was reckless at best. That is not criminal.

But if there is evidence of admission that he knew he lost the election, evidence of intent to obstruct the certification, coupled with intent to set up fake electors in the swing states that is another matter.

Take off your orange colored glasses. Now imagine it was Hillary or Biden

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If Trump was President and his DOJ or Trump appointed judges were indicting Biden, Hillary, or any vocal Democrat leader for the summer 2020 protests or mishandling classified documents the day after one of Don Jr.'s associates testified that the Trumps took bribes and covered it up...you would be SCREAMING for Trump to be thrown in jail and impeached from office.

Thank you.

This Rudy?
https://www.fox5ny.com/news/rudy-giuliani-admits-he-made-false-statements-about-georgia-election-workers
https://theconversation.com/giuliani-claims-the-first-amendment-lets-him-lie-3-essential-reads-210514

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Daily reminder for Leftist and CM living in denial and refusing to see basic patterns:

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June 7: FBI releases documents to Congress alleging the Bidens took a $10M bribe from Burisma.

June 8: Jack Smith indicts Trump in Mar-a-Lago docs case.

July 26: Hunter Biden goes to court and rejects sweetheart plea deal after it was revealed DOJ tried to give him blanket immunity from future prosecutions.

July 27: Jack Smith adds more charges for Trump in the Mar-a-lago case.

July 31: Hunter Biden's former business partner testifies to Congress that Joe Biden was on over 20 calls with his son's business partners and that Burisma execs pressured them to fire the prosecutor

August 1: Jack Smith indicts Trump again for January 6

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They'll believe all three are coincidences and Jack Smith is an honorable conservative just doing his job. While also believing they had no idea how senile poor Joe was when they voted for him in 2020, but their prayer group prays for him. They had no idea the democrats would be so partisan and divisive, it's so perplexing.

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While Smith is the one who indicted Trump, it will be up to a jury to decide guilt or innocence. And remember, it will be Trump's OWN PEOPLE who will be the witnesses called. It won't be democrats being called. Pointing a finger at who is divisive....that's not hard to look at transcripts from Trump's 4 years of partisan divisiveness (not to mention right wing media). All you have to do is look at FOXNews front web page any given day to see article after article of "Democrats bad.....conservatives good".

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Daily reminder for Leftist and CM living in denial and refusing to see basic patterns:

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June 7: FBI releases documents to Congress alleging the Bidens took a $10M bribe from Burisma.

June 8: Jack Smith indicts Trump in Mar-a-Lago docs case.

July 26: Hunter Biden goes to court and rejects sweetheart plea deal after it was revealed DOJ tried to give him blanket immunity from future prosecutions.

July 27: Jack Smith adds more charges for Trump in the Mar-a-lago case.

July 31: Hunter Biden's former business partner testifies to Congress that Joe Biden was on over 20 calls with his son's business partners and that Burisma execs pressured them to fire the prosecutor

August 1: Jack Smith indicts Trump again for January 6

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They'll believe all three are coincidences and Jack Smith is an honorable conservative just doing his job. While also believing they had no idea how senile poor Joe was when they voted for him in 2020, but their prayer group prays for him. They had no idea the democrats would be so partisan and divisive, it's so perplexing.

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While Smith is the one who indicted Trump, it will be up to a jury to decide guilt or innocence. And remember, it will be Trump's OWN PEOPLE who will be the witnesses called. It won't be democrats being called. Pointing a finger at who is divisive....that's not hard to look at transcripts from Trump's 4 years of partisan divisiveness (not to mention right wing media). All you have to do is look at FOXNews front web page any given day to see article after article of "Democrats bad.....conservatives good".

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While Smith was clearly acting partisan in his weaponizing of the law against an American, that's okay because a jury will be involved. Stupidest logic ever.

This is believed to be jason miller. a funny response from him:

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As early as mid-November, for instance, the Senior Campaign Advisor had
informed the Defendant that his claims of a large number of dead voters in Georgia were untrue.
With respect to the persistent false claim regarding State Farm Arena, on December 8, the Senior
Campaign Advisor wrote in an email, "When our research and campaign legal team can't back up
any of the claims made by our Elite Strike Force Legal Team, you can see why we're 0-32 on our cases. I'll obviously hustle to help on all fronts, but it's tough to own any of this when it's all just conspiracy **** beamed down from the mothership."

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The judge in the Trump J6 case - an Obama appointee and donor - worked at the same law firm as Hunter Biden.

This is the level of contempt they have for the Constitution, the rule of law - and YOU. pic.twitter.com/ZyqZ3YNTA8

— Monica Crowley (@MonicaCrowley) August 2, 2023

Are we at 3 indictments now? Are the Trumpsters realizing yet, for right or wrong, he has no chance to win the general election?

I know today's democrats get off on destroying the country they hate so much and prefer Marxist overlords, but imprisoning political opponents because they're very popular with the lowly proletariat people that are beneath them is going to take us to a very bad place from which there is no coming back.


Co-conspirator who is convinced the election was super ****ed up, which it was, sent a memo about the idea of whether Pence could do something about it by sending it back to the states: not a crime

Co-conspirator still thinks the election was super ****ed up, which it was, even though a court case was dismissed: not a crime

Co-conspirator thought the justice department might be able to somehow step in based on how ****ed up the election was: not a crime

Co-conspirator wrote a memo detailing possibility of alternate electors because of how ****ed up the election was, something democrats have done in multiple other elections: not a crime

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Trump staging a rally on Jan 6 when the vote was going to be certified, knowing that the most radical elements of his base, e.g. Proud Boys, etc.. would show up, telling them to "fight like hell," telling them to march to the Capitol, etc... was reckless at best. That is not criminal.

But if there is evidence of admission that he knew he lost the election, evidence of intent to obstruct the certification, coupled with intent to set up fake electors in the swing states that is another matter.

Take off your orange colored glasses. Now imagine it was Hillary or Biden

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If Trump was President and his DOJ or Trump appointed judges were indicting Biden, Hillary, or any vocal Democrat leader for the summer 2020 protests or mishandling classified documents the day after one of Don Jr.'s associates testified that the Trumps took bribes and covered it up...you would be SCREAMING for Trump to be thrown in jail and impeached from office.

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Whataboutism but I don't like Biden. If he committed crimes, prosecute him and throw him in jail.

No one is above the law. If the testimony is so damning why won't they GOP release the testimony?

If there is ever a trial on yesterday’s indictment, there will be MONTHS of testimony from lawyers on both sides about election laws in multiple states and what was and was not reasonable legal theories - even if later proven to be factually wrong. Lawyers cross-examining…

— Shipwreckedcrew (@shipwreckedcrew) August 2, 2023

But you'll vote for him again like a good soldier.

given that, and the likelihood the co-conspirators are joined, there is no chance this case is tried before the election.

of course, it will be set under the speedy trial act, and posters will freak out about that initial date as usual.

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I know today's democrats get off on destroying the country they hate so much and prefer Marxist overlords, but imprisoning political opponents because they're very popular with the lowly proletariat people that are beneath them is going to take us to a very bad place from which there is no coming back.


Co-conspirator who is convinced the election was super ****ed up, which it was, sent a memo about the idea of whether Pence could do something about it by sending it back to the states: not a crime

Co-conspirator still thinks the election was super ****ed up, which it was, even though a court case was dismissed: not a crime

Co-conspirator thought the justice department might be able to somehow step in based on how ****ed up the election was: not a crime

Co-conspirator wrote a memo detailing possibility of alternate electors because of how ****ed up the election was, something democrats have done in multiple other elections: not a crime

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Since I was usually watching all of the hearings being held in Georgia, Arizona, Michigan and Pennsylvania being conducted before committees of the state legislatures, it wasn't just Rudy sitting there alone, he had dozens of witnesses testifying at each with dozens and dozens of other witnesses attending but not testifying due to time. I also watched videotaped interviews of witnesses coming forward to speak on the record and signing affidavits as to what they witnessed in the various counting centers.

How would that many people who did not know each other, lived in different states possibly be in on the alleged conspiracy?

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That's rich coming from an apparent simpleton who voted for Biden, pretends to be surprised at his behavior and his pals at the DOJ/FBI, and constantly goal tends for him...while making up these crazy stories about Trump encouraging his 'best buddies' the 'Proud Boys' to 'attack' the Capitol on Jan 6.

You think spreading false narratives deflects from your choices and views, but it doesn't. And you know damn well Biden's DOJ won't do a thing to prosecute him for crimes and the FBI has clearly gone out of their way to protect him by the way they handled the Hunter laptop story...which you conveniently interpret as "Well I guess Biden did no wrong since they're not going after him. All is well! Trump bad!". You are either very naive, stupid, or too partisan to question what the Democrats tell you.

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to me, its when someone tried to deliver these "fake electors" to pence in the capitol that this rises to potentially criminal. however, when its a former president/current candidate, I think you need unequivocal theories on crimes and clear evidence of it.

i just don't see that here based on what I read in the indictment.

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But, but didn't you read the indictment? Its so damning and worse than Hitler

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aggiehawg said:

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MUST WATCH🚨 10 minutes of Democrats denying election results.

Democrats objected to the certification of presidential elections in 2000, 2004, and 2016.

Will Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, and Jack Smith arrest these Democrats who made false statements and denied these elections?… pic.twitter.com/fgTz18v5re

— KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) August 2, 2023

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[MUST WATCH* 10 minutes of Democrats denying election results.]

All this shows is that in prior elections, the losing party knew how to question and object to election results. They also knew when to give up after legal avenues had been exhausted, something the Donald seems to be unaware is even a possibility.

After the hanging chad debacle of 2000, Congress passed and W. signed the Help America Vote Act in 2002. One of the provisions in Title III of HAVA is a minimum error rate irrespective of the electronic voting machine used that must be complied with before that system can be acceptable and the results can be certified. The FEC sets the guidelines on the error rate.

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(5) Error rates. The error rate of the voting system in counting ballots (determined by taking into account only those errors which are attributable to the voting system and not attributable to an act of the voter) shall comply with the error rate standards established under section 3.2.1 of the voting systems standards issued by the Federal Election Commission which are in effect on the date of the enactment of this Act [enacted Oct. 29, 2002].

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Of course, Pence ignored whether any of the disputed states had verified their voting systems complied with that requirement in possible (more likely than not) violation of federal law. So can improperly certified results not be challenged?