Can anybody with experience with that Wickr encryption app?

Is that a lot of words to say nothing is going to happen and having a 53 year old drug addicted tax cheat and gun criminal son is inspirational parenting so leave Joe alone you meany Republicans?

jja79 said:

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Is that a lot of words to say nothing is going to happen and having a 53 year old drug addicted tax cheat and gun criminal son is inspirational parenting so leave Joe alone you meany Republicans?

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The House investigations better keep going before the 30 days after up and the judge considers whatever new deal is struck.

How much faith do you have in them? I have zero.

jja79 said:

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How much faith do you have in them? I have zero.

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Depends on what Devon Archer says. He's the lynchpin.

aggiehawg said:

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Can anybody with experience with that Wickr encryption app?

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Wickr was pretty early on the encrypted app, delete, no trace, and no screenshot game. You registered, supposedly the comm was encrypted to a high level, messages disappeared after reading (recall you could set how long they would last), and if you took a screenshot it would immediately send a note to the other user you had done so, breaking the trust.

Absolutely no reason to use such an app other than to hide comms. None, no reason. Setup like that for doing nefarious things.

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aggiehawg said:

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Can anybody with experience with that Wickr encryption app?

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Wickr was pretty early on the encrypted app, delete, no trace, and no screenshot game. You registered, supposedly the comm was encrypted to a high level, messages disappeared after reading (recall you could set how long they would last), and if you took a screenshot it would immediately send a note to the other user you had done so, breaking the trust.

Absolutely no reason to use such an app other than to hide comms. None, no reason. Setup like that for doing nefarious things.

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But do they really completely go away? No cloud storage? No NSA?

aggiehawg said:

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fka ftc said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Can anybody with experience with that Wickr encryption app?

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Wickr was pretty early on the encrypted app, delete, no trace, and no screenshot game. You registered, supposedly the comm was encrypted to a high level, messages disappeared after reading (recall you could set how long they would last), and if you took a screenshot it would immediately send a note to the other user you had done so, breaking the trust.

Absolutely no reason to use such an app other than to hide comms. None, no reason. Setup like that for doing nefarious things.

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But do they really completely go away? No cloud storage? No NSA?

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Likely yes.

I would have to go back but it would be highly unlikely any retrievable info remained. Encrypted, expiring, point to point… it was actually well rated for doing what it was intended to do.

However, apps like that are no fun if there is no record. I would suspect, just like with Al Capone, someone has a ledger.

Isn't he giving an interview rather than sworn testimony? Not that it matters in America today.

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Isn't he giving an interview rather than sworn testimony? Not that it matters in America today.

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Believe it is to be a sworn deposition.

LOL, team Biden lawyers pissed at the judge is sure to help them out.

https://www.axios.com/2023/07/27/rejected-plea-deal-leaves-hunter-biden-team-fuming

Are these messages on wickr or a secure app on the laptop?

How pathetic/predictable is it that a non-profit group with a public copy of the laptop hard drive had to announce this information, instead of our intrepid FBI/DoJ?

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But the non-profit group Marco Polo, which has a site with all the laptop photos and video, has discovered something new after an analysis of the hard drive that Hunter Biden used at least 16 private messaging apps, many of which were encrypted, which could have had even more sensitive communications if what was on the open drive wasn't already shocking enough.

Among the apps were Signal, the Chinese messaging app WeChat, and Wickr, an app termed as "favored in the criminal underworld" and liked by the U.S. military.

According to a person familiar with the research, "We know he downloaded the app Wickr. The app downloaded 226 times from his iCloud account from 2012 onward." The person speculated, "I think that's where you're going to find the Joe Biden conversations."

"There is no trace of Wickr on the iPhone or the laptop, which means he was very secure with it," the source said.

The Wickr app did not appear on the iPhone backup included in the laptop but had previously been downloaded onto the phone from iCloud. So, it may have been installed and then subsequently deleted, according to the source.

But he has multiple emails that mention the use of Wickr, where he's talking about communicating with others on it.

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I think I saw one of the republican stooges tell one of the Fox stooges Archer is giving a a transcribed interview Monday. Not sure what that actually is.

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Isn't he giving an interview rather than sworn testimony? Not that it matters in America today.

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Was supposed to be sworn testimony but yesterday DOJ sent a letter to the judge overseeing Devon Archer's prior bond case to order his surrender date, since he lost an appeal of conviction last week.

So DOJ is putting pressure on Archer.

Might be a stupid question, but is Archer's conviction for something that Biden could theoretically pardon? It's just hard for me to imagine a scenario in which one of Hunter's closest business partners "flips". It's unusual for anyone to wake up one day and suddenly develop a sense of ethics, "find religion", what have you. Especially knowing how bad he could potentially make both the Bidens AND the DOJ look if he spills the beans.

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Might be a stupid question, but is Archer's conviction for something that Biden could theoretically pardon? It's just hard for me to imagine a scenario in which one of Hunter's closest business partners "flips". It's unusual for anyone to wake up one day and suddenly develop a sense of ethics, "find religion", what have you. Especially knowing how bad he could potentially make both the Bidens AND the DOJ look if he spills the beans.

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Not stupid at all. And yes he was convicted of federal securities law violations arising out of a separate bond deal. (Note, Hunter could arguably have been charged in that case.) So a pardon might be in play.

OTOH, he made restitution and has only been sentenced to a year and a day of prison time and for white collar, that would be in Club Fed most likely.

But here is where it might get a little sticky. My understanding is that Devon's legal troubles started around 2015 with his conviction in 2017. So how much contact did he have with Hunter and businesses in the meantime? Could he be in potential legal jeopardy for any of that? Now in theory, Congress can offer him immunity but after the Oliver North issue wherein his convictions were thrown out for lack of parallel construction, Congressional immunity is usually much more limited now, if even offered.

So we'll see what happens tomorrow. Does he show? Does he testify or take the 5th out of an abundance of caution? Even either of those happen, I'd wager there is a pardon possibility floating around.

The Dems running the DoJ obviously don't want him to…be able to show up.

Just In: In a shocking update, the Biden DOJ has asked the judge to force Devin Archer to surrender to a prison to begin his sentence, just two days before he’s set to testify on Monday morning.

Archer was sentenced last year for a scheme in which he claims he was also a… pic.twitter.com/jgoRlNXQHj

— 🇺🇸Travis🇺🇸 (@Travis_in_Flint) July 30, 2023

Hopefully Devon is spending the night in the speaker of the house's office bathroom.

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From Devon Archer attorney Matthew L. Schwartz: pic.twitter.com/z6WvbPJYeL

— Catherine Herridge (@CBS_Herridge) July 30, 2023

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Sounds like Mr. Archer enthusiastically supports the idea of him reporting to prison.

thats kina wild.

But it's 2023 so who knows what the story is.

But I would recommend putting in an IT work ticket to double check the cameras in an around his cell.

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Hopefully Devon is spending the night in the speaker of the house's office bathroom.

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No. He needs to be livestreaming with multiple cameras/feeds and a crowd around him, imho, preferably from a ground floor, with a plan for a brief walk to the Capitol tomorrow morning, cameras in tow, and a very high priced security detail.

Just a few years ago, I'd have only joked/mocked such a suggestion. I fully expect to wake up to a dawn FBI swat team raid Oliver Stone style on his residence and arrest/murder.

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Hopefully Devon is spending the night in the speaker of the house's office bathroom.

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Better than staying with Kevin McCarthy at Frank Luntz's hourse.

Is there a law on the books that prevents a non-dependent relative of a politician from making money from lobbying or any other service that they likely would not get if their relative was not a politician? If so, what is the law?

FTA 2001 said:

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Is there a law on the books that prevents a non-dependent relative of a politician from making money from lobbying or any other service that they likely would not get if their relative was not a politician? If so, what is the law?

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Sort of. But House employees and Senate employees oversee that. So in fact, no.

If this dude goes to prison before testifying about Hunter, he's not going to make it out of prison.

Epstein 2.0

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The Dems running the DoJ obviously don't want him to…be able to show up.

Just In: In a shocking update, the Biden DOJ has asked the judge to force Devin Archer to surrender to a prison to begin his sentence, just two days before he’s set to testify on Monday morning.

Archer was sentenced last year for a scheme in which he claims he was also a… pic.twitter.com/jgoRlNXQHj

— 🇺🇸Travis🇺🇸 (@Travis_in_Flint) July 30, 2023

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LOL. Seems legit

Democrat Rep. Dan Goldman says Hunter Biden did, in fact, frequently put his dad on speakerphone for his business partners — but they were only talking about the weather pic.twitter.com/HoJ5EKYOEc

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) July 31, 2023

His license is suspended for non payment of his bar fees in Connecticut. Not a huge lie but still a misrepresentation. Better way to answer that would be to say he is currently inactive in Connecticut.

So Joe was bootlegging as a meteorologist. Explains why he coming to Arizona next week to tell us it's hot.

Might look at the FCPA.

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Is there a law on the books that prevents a non-dependent relative of a politician from making money from lobbying or any other service that they likely would not get if their relative was not a politician? If so, what is the law?

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The better question: if this situation involved Trump and family, would you be as obtuse?

Devon Archer’s testimony:
•In December 2015, Mykola Zlochevsky, the owner of Burisma, and Vadym Pozharski, an executive of Burisma, placed constant pressure on Hunter Biden to get help from D.C. regarding the Ukrainian prosecutor, Viktor Shokin. Shokin was investigating Burisma…

— Miranda Devine (@mirandadevine) July 31, 2023

You read it here first, with background https://t.co/EK84zFXYpo

— Miranda Devine (@mirandadevine) July 31, 2023

2) The argument was that then-Vice President Joe Biden brought the most value to “the brand.” Archer also stated that Burisma would have gone under if not for “the brand.”

— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) July 31, 2023

4) Hunter Biden, along with Zlochevsky and Pozharski, “called DC” to discuss the matter. Biden, Zlochevsky, and Pozharski stepped away to take make the call.

— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) July 31, 2023

6) These phone calls include a dinner in Paris with a French energy company and in China with Jonathan Li of BHR.

— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) July 31, 2023

8) The Biden Administration’s public sanctions list for Russian oligarchs does not contain Baturina.

— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) July 31, 2023

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So Joe was bootlegging as a meteorologist. Explains why he coming to Arizona next week to tell us it's hot.

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Add it to the list:

Truck Driver
Life Guard
University Professor
Train Engineer

ETA: alleged Paramour