I'm really not going to disagree with a lot of that at all. I guess my point was a change in definitions and the blatant propaganda in the whole dying with Covid versus dying by Covid is the root of the problem. There were some major eff ups like cuomo and shoving ventilators on people cause China said so. It was more media propaganda push. But outright murder, not so sure about that, however I can see your argument.

It was old people and comorbidities that felt the impact. Some were isolated from their families and left to die. I guess in your view, doctors didn't do their job, which again, I really can't dispute. I only knew one person that died with Covid and he was a doctor, 72, with early on set Parkinson's.

I think you're skipping over the part where he mentioned it was made in a lab. Fauci knew what was going on over there. The previous safety violations were known and ignored.

Covid is considered a thought out attack on the Trump presidency. "They knew it would kill some but it had to be done to achieve their goals."

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I'm really not going to disagree with a lot of that at all. I guess my point was a change in definitions and the blatant propaganda in the whole dying with Covid versus dying by Covid is the root of the problem. There were some major eff ups like cuomo and shoving ventilators on people cause China said so. It was more media propaganda push. But outright murder, not so sure about that, however I can see your argument.

It was old people and comorbidities that felt the impact. Some were isolated from their families and left to die. I guess in your view, doctors didn't do their job, which again, I really can't dispute. I only knew one person that died with Covid and he was a doctor, 72, with early on set Parkinson's.

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I think covid was much more diabolical than just a bunch of screwups. It was planned. And it worked.

I used to ponder about how if those in power weren't such screwups, so many problems could be solved, so many people could be helped. After my 911 opinion changed, I realized that the problems, suffering, starvation are not caused by screwups. The world's problems exist because the powerful elites want them to exist.

They don't want a better world for all, they don't give a **** about peons like me, or any of the peons that died on 911 or died of covid.

The Queen just died and so many were so sad. That woman and her family have billions of dollars (trillions?). How much could they help with just half of what they have? I'm not some bleeding socialist demanding equality, I'm simply saying that I couldn't watch suffering and starvation if I had money to help - like so much money I couldn't spend it all in 100 lifetimes. But the royal family sure can. No problem.

In a world where the people in power really cared about the masses, how could Jeffrey Epstein have existed and thrived, making half a billion dollars traficking kids to the rich and powerful? All while so many suffer?

They want it that way. They like it that way. They just don't care, as long as they get everything they want. I might sound distraught, but I'm not. I've come to grips with it. There's not much I can do except teach my kids to be good kids and try to be the best person I can be. The rest is just yelling at clouds.

This is veering dangerously close to turning into another Q thread.

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This is veering dangerously close to turning into another Q thread.

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There is no danger, but there is nothing wrong with being sensitive.

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I think you're skipping over the part where he mentioned it was made in a lab. Fauci knew what was going on over there. The previous safety violations were known and ignored.

Covid is considered a thought out attack on the Trump presidency. "They knew it would kill some but it had to be done to achieve their goals."

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No, I get that and believe it about the lab leak and Fauci is aware. Not sure I can say it was on purpose yet. But I fully believe it was handled in the worst way ever and data was completely shielded and manipulated.

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I feel like it would make more sense to just crash the planes with the people inside them.

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The original planes are probably on a treadmill somewhere, never to take off again. Thats about as logical as the rest of EEs theories.

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The conveyor is moot!

Ah yes...the elites. The Rothschilds, the Gettys, the Queen King, the Vatican, and Colonel Sanders before he went tits up!

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Ah yes...the elites. The Rothschilds, the Gettys, the Queen King, the Vatican, and Colonel Sanders before he went tits up!

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Wow. Ok. So there are no evil elites. Your incredible logic is overwhelming. Just genius. So how did Jeffrey Epstein get so rich? Why was Prince Andrew video'd in Epstein's NY house?

Do you even know who Jimmy Savile is?

Are there bad people in this world? Absolutely.

Is there an elite class that has a degree of power? Sure.

Do "the elites" engage in widespread pedofilia and kill children to drink their blood and planned 9/11 and COVID, etc etc? No.

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Are there bad people in this world? Absolutely.

Is there an elite class that has a degree of power? Sure.

Do "the elites" engage in widespread pedofilia and kill children to drink their blood and planned 9/11 and COVID, etc etc? No.

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Well, thanks for actually answering and not just posting a useless sarcastic post.

But your post is illogical. You say that the elites don't engage in widespread pedophilia, but the facts don't support this.

Jeffrey Epstein was a human trafficker/pedophile worth at least half a billion dollars. Where did he get that money? Who were his clients if not incredibly powerful, rich elites?

Jimmy Savile was the most heinous pedophile/human trafficker in the history of Great Britain. Not only was he a friend to the Royal family, he was knighted. Savile lived a life of luxury until he died. It was well-known what he was, accusations were made, but he never faced a court of law for his horrible crimes. Protected, no doubt, by the Royal family. After he died, hundreds of people came forward to reveal how evil he was.

Evil, powerful, elite scumbags exist. They have enough money to make Jeffrey Epstein filthy rich, rich enough to buy his own island to fly these elites to. And, of course, to fly his victims to.

Ignore it if you want, but it's there. I hate it, I wish it wasn't true, just like 911, but it is.

These people are a kind of evil that common people don't understand. They don't care about the victimization of children. They protect the traffickers of children. Why would they care about victims of 911 and covid?

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I don't know what they did exactly. The point I'm making is that your use of the "wouldn't kill their own people" and "somehow nobody revealed the conspiracy" arguments are proven wrong unless you believe all the covid stuff just "happened" and our government and the media have been honest and correct in everything they've done.

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Except that plenty of people are speaking out about the covid stuff calling out the media, the government and the medical community.

Nobody is speaking out about planting charges in buildings, landing AIRLINERS at secret airports and killing the occupants.

The two are not even remotely close to the same thing.

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Our resident official story conspiracy theorists ignore the most plausible explanation for those collapses, which is controlled demolition, and is corroborated by the physical evidence and basic common sense. We have controlled demolition experts saying within certainty that WTC7 is 100% a controlled demolition, and yet to believe NIST you have to run through all sorts of mental gymnastics to think that one column alone expanded and brought the entire structure to the point of collapse (yet global collapse was never studied).

They should have made the buildings out of passports instead of steel, given that a passport from one of the alleged hijacker's is sturdy enough to survive the plane impact, fire, and land pretty well in tact at ground level and yet you can only find the tiniest of bone fragments for the vast majority of those in the towers.

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These sort of arguments should be embarrassing for the author, but delusion in some run deep they would rather live in an obviously fictional la la land.

We have a few control demolition "experts" who have their own theories that they discuss likely to amuse themselves and their friends then sit back and watch gullible folks lap it up.

What you fail to see is that not believing your conspiracy theories in nonsense does NOT mean I or anyone else trusts the government explicitly and believe beyond all doubt they would never lie to us.

I can simultaneously believe the election of 2020 has some major issues and was at least manipulated for Biden, I can believe we were massively mislead and duped on COVID, and I can also believe 09/11 was an act of planned terrorist attacks using hijacked airplanes.

There were more than just "the tiniest of bone fragments" found for a great number of people. The comment on the passport ignores physics. That passport was traveling at several hundred miles per hour and forward of the fuel on the plane. It is entirely reasonable, if not expected, that pieces of the plane and its occupants would travel through the building and out the other side.

Again, is a low q argument to accuse anyone who doesn't latch on to your teet as being a lactose intolerant milk hater.

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Sure, you can believe COVID was man made, you can believe the election was stolen, you can also believe the official story of 9/11 is true.

But the truth is that there's far more actual evidence of WTC buildings being controlled demolitions to the point where there's zero doubt than there is for those other theories.

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No there's not.

Who planted the charges and how was it done in complete secrecy and no one single person has said anything?

Why was B7 brought down in addition to WTC1 and WTC2?

Oh, ****, now I know. They people who planted the charges were boarded on the remote controlled plane's (thinking they were going to Epstein's island for a pleasure vacation! haha, jokes on them) that hit the towers while the real passengers were offloaded, forced to make fake phone calls and then executed. That explains it.

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I feel like it would make more sense to just crash the planes with the people inside them.

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The original planes are probably on a treadmill somewhere, never to take off again. Thats about as logical as the rest of EEs theories.

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there are not enough blue stars to give! Bravo!

OP theory is that the elites created a fantastically complex plan involving 1000s hrs blue collar labor/manpower. Either duped or threatened to keep secret. The wire alone is significant enough to make finding receipt~money trail a cakewalk. No proof exists.

Fact is the conspiracy only took 2 maybe 3 intelligence agents to source funding and implement the psyop to sway 20+ swarmy muslins including Bin Laden to do the terrorism. Same conspiracy result without the seriously complicated maze of nutball fantasy.

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I don't know what they did exactly. The point I'm making is that your use of the "wouldn't kill their own people" and "somehow nobody revealed the conspiracy" arguments are proven wrong unless you believe all the covid stuff just "happened" and our government and the media have been honest and correct in everything they've done.

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Except that plenty of people are speaking out about the covid stuff calling out the media, the government and the medical community.

Nobody is speaking out about planting charges in buildings, landing AIRLINERS at secret airports and killing the occupants.

The two are not even remotely close to the same thing.

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Tons of people have spoken out about hearing explosions. You dismiss them immediately. The media announced tower 7 falling 20 minutes before it fell. You dismiss that as just a screwup. If there were actual whistle-blowers saying they planted explosives, you would dismiss them as liars.

But your analagy is flawed anyway. You want whistle-blowers saying they planted explosives or killed plane occupants. This would be akin to covid whistle-blowers coming forward to say they planted the virus on someone on purpose. The covid whistle-blowers have been underlings at Pfizer and doctors and nurses, not anyone that had direct knowledge of a planned attack. Basically the same people that heard or witnessed explosions on 911, or Willie Rodriguez or Barry Jennings.

The people who would have killed passengers or planted explosives are obviously not the kind of people who would confess. You don't believe those people exist, that's fine, but the lack of directly-involved whistle-blowers to 911 does not prove it didn't happen, and does not dismantle the possible correlation that the same people were responsible for covid.

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AggiEE said:

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Our resident official story conspiracy theorists ignore the most plausible explanation for those collapses, which is controlled demolition, and is corroborated by the physical evidence and basic common sense. We have controlled demolition experts saying within certainty that WTC7 is 100% a controlled demolition, and yet to believe NIST you have to run through all sorts of mental gymnastics to think that one column alone expanded and brought the entire structure to the point of collapse (yet global collapse was never studied).

They should have made the buildings out of passports instead of steel, given that a passport from one of the alleged hijacker's is sturdy enough to survive the plane impact, fire, and land pretty well in tact at ground level and yet you can only find the tiniest of bone fragments for the vast majority of those in the towers.

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These sort of arguments should be embarrassing for the author, but delusion in some run deep they would rather live in an obviously fictional la la land.

We have a few control demolition "experts" who have their own theories that they discuss likely to amuse themselves and their friends then sit back and watch gullible folks lap it up.

What you fail to see is that not believing your conspiracy theories in nonsense does NOT mean I or anyone else trusts the government explicitly and believe beyond all doubt they would never lie to us.

I can simultaneously believe the election of 2020 has some major issues and was at least manipulated for Biden, I can believe we were massively mislead and duped on COVID, and I can also believe 09/11 was an act of planned terrorist attacks using hijacked airplanes.

There were more than just "the tiniest of bone fragments" found for a great number of people. The comment on the passport ignores physics. That passport was traveling at several hundred miles per hour and forward of the fuel on the plane. It is entirely reasonable, if not expected, that pieces of the plane and its occupants would travel through the building and out the other side.

Again, is a low q argument to accuse anyone who doesn't latch on to your teet as being a lactose intolerant milk hater.

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Sure, you can believe COVID was man made, you can believe the election was stolen, you can also believe the official story of 9/11 is true.

But the truth is that there's far more actual evidence of WTC buildings being controlled demolitions to the point where there's zero doubt than there is for those other theories.

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No there's not.

Who planted the charges and how was it done in complete secrecy and no one single person has said anything?

Why was B7 brought down in addition to WTC1 and WTC2?

Oh, ****, now I know. They people who planted the charges were boarded on the remote controlled plane's (thinking they were going to Epstein's island for a pleasure vacation! haha, jokes on them) that hit the towers while the real passengers were offloaded, forced to make fake phone calls and then executed. That explains it.

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These are emotional arguments, they are not based on the physical evidence of what we know happened.

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These are emotional arguments, they are not based on the physical evidence of what we know happened.

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Like these?



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How do you convince an entire nation to wear masks?

Take an experimental vaccine?

Go to war with Iraq?

Completely shut down?

I've answered all these questions of yours plenty of times before. The physical evidence is where you'll find all of your truth, the rest is speculative appeals for emotion in a governmental system you consider to never have the capacity to perform heinous acts of atrocity, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary throughout history.

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I don't know what they did exactly. The point I'm making is that your use of the "wouldn't kill their own people" and "somehow nobody revealed the conspiracy" arguments are proven wrong unless you believe all the covid stuff just "happened" and our government and the media have been honest and correct in everything they've done.

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Except that plenty of people are speaking out about the covid stuff calling out the media, the government and the medical community.

Nobody is speaking out about planting charges in buildings, landing AIRLINERS at secret airports and killing the occupants.

The two are not even remotely close to the same thing.

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Tons of people have spoken out about hearing explosions. You dismiss them immediately. The media announced tower 7 falling 20 minutes before it fell. You dismiss that as just a screwup. If there were actual whistle-blowers saying they planted explosives, you would dismiss them as liars.

But your analagy is flawed anyway. You want whistle-blowers saying they planted explosives or killed plane occupants. This would be akin to covid whistle-blowers coming forward to say they planted the virus on someone on purpose. The covid whistle-blowers have been underlings at Pfizer and doctors and nurses, not anyone that had direct knowledge of a planned attack. Basically the same people that heard or witnessed explosions on 911, or Willie Rodriguez or Barry Jennings.

The people who would have killed passengers or planted explosives are obviously not the kind of people who would confess. You don't believe those people exist, that's fine, but the lack of directly-involved whistle-blowers to 911 does not prove it didn't happen, and does not dismantle the possible correlation that the same people were responsible for covid.

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"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

Lol

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I don't know what they did exactly. The point I'm making is that your use of the "wouldn't kill their own people" and "somehow nobody revealed the conspiracy" arguments are proven wrong unless you believe all the covid stuff just "happened" and our government and the media have been honest and correct in everything they've done.

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Except that plenty of people are speaking out about the covid stuff calling out the media, the government and the medical community.

Nobody is speaking out about planting charges in buildings, landing AIRLINERS at secret airports and killing the occupants.

The two are not even remotely close to the same thing.

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Tons of people have spoken out about hearing explosions. You dismiss them immediately. The media announced tower 7 falling 20 minutes before it fell. You dismiss that as just a screwup. If there were actual whistle-blowers saying they planted explosives, you would dismiss them as liars.

But your analagy is flawed anyway. You want whistle-blowers saying they planted explosives or killed plane occupants. This would be akin to covid whistle-blowers coming forward to say they planted the virus on someone on purpose. The covid whistle-blowers have been underlings at Pfizer and doctors and nurses, not anyone that had direct knowledge of a planned attack. Basically the same people that heard or witnessed explosions on 911, or Willie Rodriguez or Barry Jennings.

The people who would have killed passengers or planted explosives are obviously not the kind of people who would confess. You don't believe those people exist, that's fine, but the lack of directly-involved whistle-blowers to 911 does not prove it didn't happen, and does not dismantle the possible correlation that the same people were responsible for covid.

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"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

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Exactly. The fantasy that you and other truthers choose to believe is impossible. Therefore the improbable, as truthers can't acknowledge, must be the truth.

Finally something we agree on.

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I don't know what they did exactly. The point I'm making is that your use of the "wouldn't kill their own people" and "somehow nobody revealed the conspiracy" arguments are proven wrong unless you believe all the covid stuff just "happened" and our government and the media have been honest and correct in everything they've done.

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Except that plenty of people are speaking out about the covid stuff calling out the media, the government and the medical community.

Nobody is speaking out about planting charges in buildings, landing AIRLINERS at secret airports and killing the occupants.

The two are not even remotely close to the same thing.

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Tons of people have spoken out about hearing explosions. You dismiss them immediately. The media announced tower 7 falling 20 minutes before it fell. You dismiss that as just a screwup. If there were actual whistle-blowers saying they planted explosives, you would dismiss them as liars.

But your analagy is flawed anyway. You want whistle-blowers saying they planted explosives or killed plane occupants. This would be akin to covid whistle-blowers coming forward to say they planted the virus on someone on purpose. The covid whistle-blowers have been underlings at Pfizer and doctors and nurses, not anyone that had direct knowledge of a planned attack. Basically the same people that heard or witnessed explosions on 911, or Willie Rodriguez or Barry Jennings.

The people who would have killed passengers or planted explosives are obviously not the kind of people who would confess. You don't believe those people exist, that's fine, but the lack of directly-involved whistle-blowers to 911 does not prove it didn't happen, and does not dismantle the possible correlation that the same people were responsible for covid.

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"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

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Exactly. The fantasy that you and other truthers choose to believe is impossible. Therefore the improbable, as truthers can't acknowledge, must be the truth.

Finally something we agree on.

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There's nothing impossible about conspiring false flag attacks. There are countless examples throughout history

It is impossible for three WTC buildings to completely collapse with fires from airplanes resulting in molten steel, thermate residue, and direct explosive evidence.

But they can collapse from fire, especially if the fireproofing gets knocked off the steel and there's literally tons of jet fuel to get things going. It really is that simple.

I have a simple question for those who know way more about this than I do, which is very little: my understanding is that building 7 is the one that is the most in question. Presumably, for a building of its size to be brought down via controlled demolition, there would have to be a large amount of wiring of explosives, laying of demolition cable etc... It has been 21 years. In all this time, do any of y'all know of any witnesses who have come forward and said they saw anything amiss in building 7 before 9/11?

Thanks and I will hang up and listen.

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I have a simple question for those who know way more about this than I do, which is very little: my understanding is that building 7 is the one that is the most in question. Presumably, for a building of its size to be brought down via controlled demolition, there would have to be a large amount of wiring of explosives, laying of demolition cable etc...

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Truthers deny that these are the requirements to bring down a building. So they'll just say you're operating from a false premise.

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But they can collapse from fire, especially if the fireproofing gets knocked off the steel and there's literally tons of jet fuel to get things going. It really is that simple.

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They literally can't collapse from fire that burns significantly lower than the point where steel weakens and do so across the entire building despite fires localized at the lightest part of the building.

There would be no point in the painstaking detail and effort that goes into a controlled demolition if all it took to level a building largely symmetrically was office fires.

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I have a simple question for those who know way more about this than I do, which is very little: my understanding is that building 7 is the one that is the most in question. Presumably, for a building of its size to be brought down via controlled demolition, there would have to be a large amount of wiring of explosives, laying of demolition cable etc... It has been 21 years. In all this time, do any of y'all know of any witnesses who have come forward and said they saw anything amiss in building 7 before 9/11?

Thanks and I will hang up and listen.

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I have a simple question for those who know way more about this than I do, which is very little: my understanding is that building 7 is the one that is the most in question. Presumably, for a building of its size to be brought down via controlled demolition, there would have to be a large amount of wiring of explosives, laying of demolition cable etc...

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Truthers deny that these are the requirements to bring down a building. So they'll just say you're operating from a false premise.

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Okay, leaving out all talk about explosives or detonation cable, my question is very simple: does anybody know if anybody has come forward to say that he or she saw anything amiss or anybody doing anything suspicious before building 7 came down?

I haven't read this entire thread so forgive me if it was discussed and I missed it.

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They literally can't collapse from fire that burns significantly lower than the point where steel weakens and do so across the entire building despite fires localized at the lightest part of the building.

There would be no point in the painstaking detail and effort that goes into a controlled demolition if all it took to level a building largely symmetrically was office fires

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Those fires were ridiculously hot. I don't know why you think otherwise. Modern office furnishings are synthetic and burn much hotter than traditional furnishings. Plus jet fuel. Plus minimal compartmentalization (which slows fire spread) due both to the design of the buildings and the damage they sustained upon impact. You are not giving those infernos the respect they deserve.

And steel fails in building fires all the time. The steel roof trusses in strip centers can collapse rather quickly if fire isn't gotten under control. You're right that it's extremely rare in high rises (due to fireproofing, sprinklers, fires almost always starting in a single location) but this was a pretty unique day. When has a massive high rise fire ever started instantly 70 floors high before? Even if the buildings hadn't collapsed, it likely would've taken days for the fires to go out.

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I have a simple question for those who know way more about this than I do, which is very little: my understanding is that building 7 is the one that is the most in question. Presumably, for a building of its size to be brought down via controlled demolition, there would have to be a large amount of wiring of explosives, laying of demolition cable etc...

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Truthers deny that these are the requirements to bring down a building. So they'll just say you're operating from a false premise.

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Okay, leaving out all talk about explosives or detonation cable, my question is very simple: does anybody know if anybody has come forward to say that he or she saw anything amiss or anybody doing anything suspicious before building 7 came down?

I haven't read this entire thread so forgive me if it was discussed and I missed it.

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Please watch my video above. The whole ordeal leading up to WTC7's collapse was extremely unusual in terms of eyewitness reports and messaging

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They literally can't collapse from fire that burns significantly lower than the point where steel weakens and do so across the entire building despite fires localized at the lightest part of the building.

There would be no point in the painstaking detail and effort that goes into a controlled demolition if all it took to level a building largely symmetrically was office fires

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Those fires were ridiculously hot. I don't know why you think otherwise. Modern office furnishings are synthetic and burn much hotter than traditional furnishings. Plus jet fuel. Plus minimal compartmentalization (which slows fire spread) due both to the design of the buildings and the damage they sustained upon impact. You are not giving those infernos the respect they deserve.

And steel fails in building fires all the time. The steel roof trusses in strip centers can collapse rather quickly if fire isn't gotten under control. You're right that it's extremely rare in high rises, but this was a pretty unique day.

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They were not "ridiculously" hot. The fire department reached the impact zone and was confident they could contain the fires.

The temperature jet fuel burns at are nowhere close to weaken the ENTIRE core structure around or below it

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I have a simple question for those who know way more about this than I do, which is very little: my understanding is that building 7 is the one that is the most in question. Presumably, for a building of its size to be brought down via controlled demolition, there would have to be a large amount of wiring of explosives, laying of demolition cable etc... It has been 21 years. In all this time, do any of y'all know of any witnesses who have come forward and said they saw anything amiss in building 7 before 9/11?

Thanks and I will hang up and listen.

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That was interesting. If I understand it, it's saying that the building must have been prepared in advance. My question, again, is if there are any witnesses who have come forward to say that they saw i prepared in advance? Does anybody know?

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I have a simple question for those who know way more about this than I do, which is very little: my understanding is that building 7 is the one that is the most in question. Presumably, for a building of its size to be brought down via controlled demolition, there would have to be a large amount of wiring of explosives, laying of demolition cable etc... It has been 21 years. In all this time, do any of y'all know of any witnesses who have come forward and said they saw anything amiss in building 7 before 9/11?

Thanks and I will hang up and listen.

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That was interesting. If I understand it, it's saying that the building must have been prepared in advance. My question, again, is if there are any witnesses who have come forward to say that it was prepared in advance. Does anybody know?

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That video has witnesses that say they were told it was coming down in advance, with fire department workers saying it was going to be blown up soon and coming down.

The owner Larry Silverstein even used the demolition term "pull it" to describe the collapse

Are you going to get anyone saying "I was the one that loaded the explosives?", no, likely not.

The whole WTC7 issue seems like it was a mistake in their plan, and they didn't quite know how to control the messaging narrative, which is why it was let slip that it was going to be intentionally imploded, but in the following years they decided to stay completely silent on that topic and just let NIST fabricate a bogus justification instead in order to not implicate themselves any further than they did on 9/11

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Traces of Texas said:

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I have a simple question for those who know way more about this than I do, which is very little: my understanding is that building 7 is the one that is the most in question. Presumably, for a building of its size to be brought down via controlled demolition, there would have to be a large amount of wiring of explosives, laying of demolition cable etc... It has been 21 years. In all this time, do any of y'all know of any witnesses who have come forward and said they saw anything amiss in building 7 before 9/11?

Thanks and I will hang up and listen.

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That was interesting. If I understand it, it's saying that the building must have been prepared in advance. My question, again, is if there are any witnesses who have come forward to say that it was prepared in advance. Does anybody know?

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That video has witnesses that say they were told it was coming down in advance, with fire department workers saying it was going to be blown up soon and coming down.

The owner Larry Silverstein even used the demolition term "pull it" to describe the collapse

Are you going to get anyone saying "I was the one that loaded the explosives?", no, likely not.

The whole WTC7 issue seems like it was a mistake in their plan, and they didn't quite know how to control the messaging narrative, which is why it was let slip that it was going to be intentionally imploded, but in the following years they decided to stay completely silent on that topic and just let NIST fabricate a bogus justification instead in order to not implicate themselves any further than they did on 9/11

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