Active shooter Uvalde Elementary school

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IslanderAg04
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Silvertaps said:

My liberal sister In-Law in the northeast decided to chime in on social media. I had my response all typed up and ready, then my wife instructed very politely not to reply for her sake.





Sounds like she owns alot of cats.
dude95
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Also said assault rifle (his words not mine) and that it was legally purchased on his 18th birthday by a dealer in town.
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Silvertaps said:

My liberal sister In-Law in the northeast decided to chime in on social media. I had my response all typed up and ready, then my wife instructed very politely not to reply for her sake.



You should send her 100 Biden "I did that" stickers.
Clown Baby
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It's now up to 18 children, 3 adults dead (per Fox). Just no words.
BQ78
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18 children, 3 adults now
pagerman @ work
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Jarrin' Jay said:

Canyon99 said:

The issue isn't guns. The issue is what caused this person to become so heartless that he could take the lives of 14 children and a teacher. We need to pray for the souls of the deceased and their loved ones.

Yes and no. I own firearms and am against more gun regulation or control as that generally only hurts and restricts responsible gun owners. However, you need to realize and understand this is just part of the price we pay for living in a gun culture society / country. Mass shootings do not happen in any other 1st world country, Europe, Asia, etc. with any level of frequency other than the USA . I have never heard of a mass killing spree with a baseball bat, kitchen knife, tree trimmer, bowling ball, etc., etc., etc.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people, but guns make it much easier and efficient to do so.

T&P for all the victims and families affected. And I hope this P.O.S. is dead by the end of the month.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3671740
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Over the 20 years from 1998 to 2017, our list contains 2,772 attacks and at least 5,764 shooters outside the United States and 62 attacks and 66 shooters within our country. By our count, the US makes up less than 1.13% of the mass public shooters, 1.77% of their murders, and 2.19% of their attacks. All these are much less than the US's 4.6% share of the world population. Attacks in the US are not only less frequent than other countries, they are also much less deadly on average. Out of the 101 countries where we have identified mass public shootings occurring, the United States ranks 66th in the per capita frequency of these attacks and 56th in the murder rate.

Not only have these attacks been much more common outside the US, the US's share of these attacks has declined over time. There has been a much bigger increase over time in the number of mass shootings in the rest of the world compared to the US.

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Over the 20 years that we studied, we find 2,772 attacks outside the United States, with at least 5,764 killers and 30,993 killed. The US makes up less than 1.13% of the mass public shooters, 1.77% of their murders, and 2.19% of their attacks. These results show that the U.S. clearly has fewer mass public shootings and murders from these attacks than the average rate for the rest of the world.

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Houstonag
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Amazing that after all these years of mass shootings at schools the administrators have not hardened the schools.

Ok for teachers to stay home and pay them, ok to spend billions on masks, plexiglass shields, reconfigure the buildings etc. but no money for security. Ok to spend money on so called fake asylum seekers from all over the world. Give them formula, free phones, health services, transportation, etc. but no money for real security.

My friends, be aware of who you vote for. Your life depends on it.
Clown Baby
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Guns don't kill people, people kill people, but guns make it much easier and efficient to do so.

These type of weapons have been around for decades, mass shooting have objectively shot up much more recently. It's obviously something else that is the lion's share of the problem given this disconnect.
TexAggee05
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State Senator Gutierrez TX-19 after speaking with DPS officials:

18 children, 3 adults dead
Grandmother shot but still alive
Shooter purchased 2 ARs when he turned 18
Shooter made threats on social media telling "kids to be scared"
IslanderAg04
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Houstonag said:

Amazing that after all these years of mass shootings at schools the administrators have not hardened the schools.

Ok for teachers to stay home and pay them, ok to spend billions on masks, plexiglass shields, reconfigure the buildings etc. but no money for security. Ok to spend money on so called fake asylum seekers from all over the world. Give them formula, free phones, health services, transportation, etc. but no money for real security.

My friends, be aware of who you vote for. Your life depends on it.


Wondering if the laxed attitude has to do with school ending this week. Lots of event going on. My daughter had a water day today so they were all outside.
Ferg
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TexAggee05 said:

State Senator Gutierrez TX-19 after speaking with DPS officials:

18 children, 3 adults dead
Grandmother shot but still alive
Shooter purchased 2 ARs when he turned 18
Shooter made threats on social media telling "kids to be scared"
I thought the state law was 21 except for Shotguns.
histag10
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Clown Baby said:

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Guns don't kill people, people kill people, but guns make it much easier and efficient to do so.

These type of weapons have been around for decades, mass shooting have objectively shot up much more recently. It's obviously something else that is the lion's share of the problem given this disconnect.


Centuries
JB!98
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Don't know if has been posted, but please also pray for the first responders. I don't know how you could ever get those images out of your head.
Today, unfortunately, many Americans have good reason to fear that they will be victimized if they are unable to protect themselves. And today, no less than in 1791, the Second Amendment guarantees their right to do so. - Justice Samuel Alito 2022
AgBQ-00
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Long arms are 18. Handguns are 21
You do not have a soul. You are a soul that has a body.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
TitanAGGIE09
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18 for long guns
dude95
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Ferg said:

TexAggee05 said:

State Senator Gutierrez TX-19 after speaking with DPS officials:

18 children, 3 adults dead
Grandmother shot but still alive
Shooter purchased 2 ARs when he turned 18
Shooter made threats on social media telling "kids to be scared"
I thought the state law was 21 except for Shotguns.


Pistol is 21. Rifles are 18.
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You can legally own a handgun in Texas at 18. You have to be 21 to purchase it from an FFL. 18 for long guns.
Clown Baby
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Houstonag said:

Amazing that after all these years of mass shootings at schools the administrators have not hardened the schools.

Ok for teachers to stay home and pay them, ok to spend billions on masks, plexiglass shields, reconfigure the buildings etc. but no money for security. Ok to spend money on so called fake asylum seekers from all over the world. Give them formula, free phones, health services, transportation, etc. but no money for real security.

My friends, be aware of who you vote for. Your life depends on it.

It's beyond insane. We don't think twice about having armed personnel in airports, but not where the state keeps our kids during the day most of the year? How does that make any f***ing sense?

And don't give me this "oH yOu JuSt WaNt tO AdD mOrE gUnS tO tHe SiTuAtIoN?" BS, as if whose carrying the gun is just some minor detail. Such a disingenuous, asinine argument. There's a reason the vast, VAST majority of these shootings happen in gun-free zones. I'm obviously not saying that randos in the school should be allowed to carry, but there needs to be at least one trained and armed individual (and more than one for most schools). This is just common sense.
Dan Scott
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Why difference. Is it something about hunting so rifles are 18?
BigHead 04
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45-70Ag said:

Once a year we do an active shooter scenario on campus before classes begin in august with local PD and sheriffs office.

It's incredibly realistic with an officer dressed in whatever to represent a shooter, armed and comes in firing blanks. They use theater students who are in costumes and make up to represent wounds and blood. Kids run around screaming and falling to show they've been hit and meanwhile teachers in rooms are graded by police in how they respond. All of this is going on while the shooter is firing.

I'm an infantry combat veteran, Iraq/Afghanistan and the first time i saw this it was stunning.

Some teachers don't participate because it is realistic and it is incredibly sad we do it but if it helps people react in a situation i pray to god never happens…….it's worth it.


That's incredible and I think a creative way to try and prepare for this! Can you share what district? Understand completely if you can't.

We can't change our sick culture and it's past time for many parents to realize that. It takes people who give a damn to say enough and prepare for the worst. I commend the LEO's and teachers (and students!) who take part.
deddog
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HabitualLineStepper said:

Dan Scott said:

NRA annual conference in Houston this Friday with Abbot, Cruz, and Trump scheduled to speak. This is going get ugky


Ironically NRA also held rally 10 days after the Colombine shooting
I fail to see the connection?
deddog
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Dan Scott said:

NRA annual conference in Houston this Friday with Abbot, Cruz, and Trump scheduled to speak. This is going get ugky
Why?
Was the NRA the shooter?
Should we stop hispanics from assembling together?
Who?mikejones!
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Terrible.

We've given up on boys. We've fought biology and human nature to remove masculinity. We reduced the importance of fatherhood. Boys are lost. We've reduced them to either subdued or toxic. We've removed their purpose.

That gets filled with shame. And embarrassment. And self hate. And hate.

We need men. We need fathers.

Boo Weekley
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Dan Scott said:

Why difference. Is it something about hunting so rifles are 18?


Probably because there are WAY more gun related deaths with pistols, accidental and intentional. It's not even remotely close.
Dan Scott
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deddog said:

Dan Scott said:

NRA annual conference in Houston this Friday with Abbot, Cruz, and Trump scheduled to speak. This is going get ugky
Why?
Was the NRA the shooter?
Should we stop hispanics from assembling together?


It's called politics.
Teacher_Ag
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So hard to comprehend. As an educator and a dad of two elementary kids this is just my worst nightmare. I'll never understand why someone could be driven to do this.
Clown Baby
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Was the NRA the shooter?

Has an NRA member EVER the shooter???

I'm going to guess no, because if they were the media could be screaming it from every mountaintop. And I can't recall any.
Atreides Ornithopter
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I am all for arm teachers with training. But I would claim a better program would be gun safety classes IN SCHOOL. There is research that says that if you leave kids in a room with a gun in a box, the ones that have been trained, once they know what it is leave it alone. Ones that have not been trained attempt to pick it up and play with it. School is for education. Let's educated them on this.
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Clown Baby
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Teacher_Ag said:

So hard to comprehend. As an educator and a dad of two elementary kids this is just my worst nightmare. I'll never understand why someone could be driven to do this.

Nihilism. Nihilism in it's purest form. That seems to be the takeaway most of the time, at least for me.
Boo Weekley
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Teacher_Ag said:

So hard to comprehend. As an educator and a dad of two elementary kids this is just my worst nightmare. I'll never understand why someone could be driven to do this.


There will only be more and more of it. More and more young men growing up without fathers, grandfathers, good male role models etc. Prime reason most black neighborhoods are almost no-go zones.
TAMU1990
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Robk said:

HabitualLineStepper said:

Dan Scott said:

NRA annual conference in Houston this Friday with Abbot, Cruz, and Trump scheduled to speak. This is going get ugky


Ironically NRA also held rally 10 days after the Colombine shooting


Not ironically there have been at least 28 school shootings this year, so being within 10 days of one is not all that odd.


I don't believe that. We have seen in the past that number is exaggerated. How many were in a school zone or the immediate neighborhood vs in the building? Because the prior (school zone, etc) has been included in those stats in the past. Plus there would of been more news coverage of these 28 shootings.
aggiepanic95
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Can anyone guess what the teleprompter read by the senile guy will tell us?
Anti-taxxer
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NewEra2023 said:

Looks like Richard Ramirez


Meant to quote the pic.

Is he trans?
W
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listening to FOX...the school may not have had an armed resource officer / security on campus
 
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