Active shooter Uvalde Elementary school

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Rockdoc
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Wait a minute. Did the shooter wreck his truck after fleeing the scene of his grandmothers murder? Was this just a coincidence that he wrecked out near the school so that's where he went? Do I have the story wrong?
Rapier108
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Okay, now I really want to know where he got the money for his guns.

In the picture of the two rifles, the one on the left is Daniel Defense DDM4 V7 Pro which goes for about $2200. Optic is an EOTech XPS2 Holosight which goes for about $700. So just the gun and optics is over $3000 after taxes.

Not sure yet what the other one is; can't see any real markings on it.
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Rockdoc said:

Wait a minute. Did the shooter wreck his truck after fleeing the scene of his grandmothers murder? Was this just a coincidence that he wrecked out near the school so that's where he went? Do I have the story wrong?


I think his plan was the high school but ended up at the elementary after crashing his car. That's what it sounds like to me
TexAggee05
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A DPS officer on CNN just stated that he crashed the truck and fled to the school. He didn't know anything about the time prior to the crash. He said the shooter was wearing body armor and carrying a rifle.
Texas Yarddog
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What about Death Metal, Dungeons & Dragons, and satanic cults?

Or were thise just the 80's talking points?
Baby Billy
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This is a mental illness problem.

Dems now calling for no guns unless you're a police officer. I thought we wanted to defund the police?
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Jarrin' Jay said:



Yes and no. I own firearms and am against more gun regulation or control as that generally only hurts and restricts responsible gun owners. However, you need to realize and understand this is just part of the price we pay for living in a gun culture society / country. Mass shootings do not happen in any other 1st world country, Europe, Asia, etc. with any level of frequency other than the USA. I have never heard of a mass killing spree with a baseball bat, kitchen knife, tree trimmer, bowling ball, etc., etc., etc.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people, but guns make it much easier and efficient to do so.

T&P for all the victims and families affected. And I hope this P.O.S. is dead by the end of the month.

Agree.

If you use suicides per capita as a barometer for mental health, plenty of other countries have similar or worse rates of suicide than the US. Of those countries, strict gun free countries almost never have mass murders simply because guns aren't accessible. The US doesn't have more evil or mentally ill potential mass murderers per capita than any other country, and probably a lot less considering our wealth, and mental health/therapy isn't much of a stigma anymore. I love my Glocks and I know nothing else I own comes close to their killing power.

But anyway, I doubt anything will change reality. All the background checks, mental health checks etc can only do so much once a deranged 18 year old decides to commit mass murder. Hell, the Buffalo mass murderer who travelled hours to shoot black folks was 18 years old and bought his firearms legally. We're all starting to forget about it anyway.

NRA meeting will go on as planned, Abbot might say something, Biden might say something. After that, well.
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Kenneth_2003
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Different day, different agenda. I know it's so hard to keep up. But it bills down to, "It's (D)ifferent!"
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Agthatbuilds said:

Terrible.

We've given up on boys. We've fought biology and human nature to remove masculinity. We reduced the importance of fatherhood. Boys are lost. We've reduced them to either subdued or toxic. We've removed their purpose.

That gets filled with shame. And embarrassment. And self hate. And hate.

We need men. We need fathers.




The self hate was huge with this kid, he apparently liked dressing up as a girl and appears to possibly be trans or at least he wanted to. There are a number of pictures of him in girls clothing floating around.
Smeghead4761
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W said:

listening to FOX...the school may not have had an armed resource officer / security on campus
In all the places I've lived (including Bryan right now), only the high schools and around half the time the middle schools had SROs. Because in the vast majority of school shootings, the shooter is a student at the school being shot up. Also because teenagers are much, much more likely to do the kinds of illegal stupid and/or violent things that might need a law enforcement response.

I don't think I've ever lived anywhere that had cops on elementary campuses full time.

Off the top of my head, I can only think of three school shootings at elementary schools: this one, Newtown, and one in Stockton, CA back in the late 80s/early 90s (and the shooter in Stockton didn't even set foot on school grounds, just shot kids at recess with a rifle from nearby woods or bushes.)


I have yet to see in this incident whether the shooter went to the school deliberately intended to shoot a bunch of kids, or if he ended up there while fleeing police after shooting his grandmother and possibly others, and once he realized he was trapped and couldn't get away, decided to go out in an orgy of blood. If he had gotten into a classroom and locked himself in, I can see where he could well have had the time necessary to kill everyone inside that room before even a SWAT team could breach the door.
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Something like 2-3% of the population are born tending towards a psychopathic personality. Many are not in the extreme and are only antisocial or highly self absorbed but not violent or excessively harmful. Others are truly thoroughly psychopathic and can be violent and self absorbed and nihilistic if they are also neurotic and fatalist or have other mental troubles. Psychopaths that aren't carefully socialized as young children spend a lifetime as an outsider who cannot relate to others and often have a deep resentment of others. There is ALWAYS going to be a small fraction of the population capable of something like this. The only real way to stop them is detection and intervention.
Rockdoc
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J. Peterman said:

This is a mental illness problem.

Dems now calling for no guns unless you're a police officer. I thought we wanted to defund the police?

So they're gonna knock on my door, collect my guns and then guarantee me there will be no more killings? There are around 200 million guns in this country. Are they going to the ghettos of Chicago and collect all the guns?
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Anti-taxxer said:

NewEra2023 said:

Looks like Richard Ramirez


Meant to quote the pic.

Is he trans?


He might be apparently:

Funky Winkerbean
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When you turn 18, what's in your mailbox? Credit card applications.
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Rockdoc said:

J. Peterman said:

This is a mental illness problem.

Dems now calling for no guns unless you're a police officer. I thought we wanted to defund the police?

So they're gonna knock on my door, collect my guns and then guarantee me there will be no more killings? There are around 200 million guns in this country. Are they going to the ghettos of Chicago and collect all the guns?


They can come get it, out of my cold dead hands
Because I'm Batman!

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Rockdoc said:

J. Peterman said:

This is a mental illness problem.

Dems now calling for no guns unless you're a police officer. I thought we wanted to defund the police?

So they're gonna knock on my door, collect my guns and then guarantee me there will be no more killings? There are around 200 million guns in this country. Are they going to the ghettos of Chicago and collect all the guns?


LOL at 200 million guns. It's AT LEAST double that.
Rockdoc
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Are we sure that's him? Verified?
Rapier108
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Rockdoc said:

Are we sure that's him? Verified?
Not verified.
Rockdoc
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Fear InoculAg said:

Rockdoc said:

J. Peterman said:

This is a mental illness problem.

Dems now calling for no guns unless you're a police officer. I thought we wanted to defund the police?

So they're gonna knock on my door, collect my guns and then guarantee me there will be no more killings? There are around 200 million guns in this country. Are they going to the ghettos of Chicago and collect all the guns?


LOL at 200 million guns. It's AT LEAST double that.

So I was off by 100%. I need to buy a few more.
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Rapier108 said:

CM Trump Voter said:

Pole Assassin said:

CM Trump Voter said:

Yeah? Do you think everything is a false flag?


Everything? No. But I predicted last week on this very forum that mass shootings would ramp up in a lead up to the elections…

Lo and behold

Any word on the gun used? 10 to 1 it's an AR-15


Is it possible that the AR15 was used because it's an inexpensive high capacity firearm and not an intentional conspiracy?

I know you're scared. I am too. They are coming for our guns. But I cannot believe everything is a conspiracy.
If the picture of the two AR-15s are actually his, that's probably $1500 to $2000+ in guns and accessories. One looks like a Springfield Saint Victor which is about $1200 by itself.

Just like the looser in Buffalo, who probably spent around $5000+ on his stuff, where did they get the money.
One is a DDM4V7. Google it.

Can't tell about the other.



Charpie
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That's not the same person
Dan Scott
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Should posting pictures of your guns be a red flag? That's not going to fly
Rapier108
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Clob94 said:

Rapier108 said:

CM Trump Voter said:

Pole Assassin said:

CM Trump Voter said:

Yeah? Do you think everything is a false flag?


Everything? No. But I predicted last week on this very forum that mass shootings would ramp up in a lead up to the elections…

Lo and behold

Any word on the gun used? 10 to 1 it's an AR-15


Is it possible that the AR15 was used because it's an inexpensive high capacity firearm and not an intentional conspiracy?

I know you're scared. I am too. They are coming for our guns. But I cannot believe everything is a conspiracy.
If the picture of the two AR-15s are actually his, that's probably $1500 to $2000+ in guns and accessories. One looks like a Springfield Saint Victor which is about $1200 by itself.

Just like the looser in Buffalo, who probably spent around $5000+ on his stuff, where did they get the money.
Once is a DDM4V7.

Can't tell about the other.


Yeah, I posted about it earlier on this page. My earlier comment was about a lower quality image and couldn't make out the markings on it.
Rapier108
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Dan Scott said:

Should posting pictures of your guns be a red flag?
By itself, no.
ntxVol
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Dan Scott said:

Should posting pictures of your guns be a red flag? That's not going to fly
Red flag for what?
Humorous Username
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Humorous Username said:

aggiepanic95 said:

Can anyone guess what the teleprompter read by the senile guy will tell us?


If Biden doesn't say each of the following, I'll be impressed.

Weapons of war
Common sense gun laws
Alluding to gun owners as crazy/dangerous
Subtle reference to letting the government control your life more
Shooter influenced by conservative ideas


Biden getting angry now.

Let's see if he starts mentioning my listed items.
Humorous Username
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Humorous Username said:

Humorous Username said:

aggiepanic95 said:

Can anyone guess what the teleprompter read by the senile guy will tell us?


If Biden doesn't say each of the following, I'll be impressed.

Weapons of war
Common sense gun laws
Alluding to gun owners as crazy/dangerous
Subtle reference to letting the government control your life more
Shooter influenced by conservative ideas


Biden getting angry now.

Let's see if he starts mentioning my listed items.


Common sense gun laws: CHECK
Smeghead4761
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Rapier108 said:

Clob94 said:

Rapier108 said:

CM Trump Voter said:

Pole Assassin said:

CM Trump Voter said:

Yeah? Do you think everything is a false flag?


Everything? No. But I predicted last week on this very forum that mass shootings would ramp up in a lead up to the elections…

Lo and behold

Any word on the gun used? 10 to 1 it's an AR-15


Is it possible that the AR15 was used because it's an inexpensive high capacity firearm and not an intentional conspiracy?

I know you're scared. I am too. They are coming for our guns. But I cannot believe everything is a conspiracy.
If the picture of the two AR-15s are actually his, that's probably $1500 to $2000+ in guns and accessories. One looks like a Springfield Saint Victor which is about $1200 by itself.

Just like the looser in Buffalo, who probably spent around $5000+ on his stuff, where did they get the money.
Once is a DDM4V7.

Can't tell about the other.


Yeah, I posted about it earlier on this page. My earlier comment was about a lower quality image and couldn't make out the markings on it.
Someone well back in this thread sad the second rifle looks to be a Springfield Armory Saint Victor. If so, ~$700-1,000, going by listings on GunBroker.
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His brain will malfunction…. Lets see what peepaw spits out this time
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Aggie Jurist
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Biden is such a POS - for God's sake (his favorite phrase in this horrible speech).
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MouthBQ98 said:

Something like 2-3% of the population are born tending towards a psychopathic personality. Many are not in the extreme and are only antisocial or highly self absorbed but not violent or excessively harmful. Others are truly thoroughly psychopathic and can be violent and self absorbed and nihilistic if they are also neurotic and fatalist or have other mental troubles. Psychopaths that aren't carefully socialized as young children spend a lifetime as an outsider who cannot relate to others and often have a deep resentment of others. There is ALWAYS going to be a small fraction of the population capable of something like this. The only real way to stop them is detection and intervention.


I posted the exact same thing on another thread. Statistically speaking, a certain percentage of the population always will be made up of psycho/socio-paths. The difference now is their names, photos, and actions are spread across the world in a matter of seconds. In the past, people who did things like this mostly faded into history. Now they live on forever in internet stories.

This kid was a ticking time bomb waiting to go off, and he chose to inflict damage that would ensure him a sick notoriety and infamy.
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Humorous Username said:

Humorous Username said:

aggiepanic95 said:

Can anyone guess what the teleprompter read by the senile guy will tell us?


If Biden doesn't say each of the following, I'll be impressed.

Weapons of war
Common sense gun laws
Alluding to gun owners as crazy/dangerous
Subtle reference to letting the government control your life more
Shooter influenced by conservative ideas


Biden getting angry now.

Let's see if he starts mentioning my listed items.
Oh, he did....

Plus, he added, "backbone".
 
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